Ballot Harvesting Wasn't Bad Enough

[merh]

Nov 14, 2022 9:16:18 GMT abbey1227 said:

Nov 13, 2022 23:27:50 GMT merh said:

I'm fine with the holiday/voting day idea.

I'm not fine with people who have no skin in the game deciding tax rates and where the money goes

We all have skin in the game.
We all live in this country.

Tax rates are voted on?
That stuff is decided by politicians.
Yes, they are voted on, but voters often vote for politicians based on a single issue like those that wanted Roe v Wade overturned 

[abbey1227]

Nov 16, 2022 20:10:01 GMT merh said:

Nov 14, 2022 9:16:18 GMT abbey1227 said:

I'm fine with the holiday/voting day idea.

I'm not fine with people who have no skin in the game deciding tax rates and where the money goes

We all have skin in the game.
We all live in this country.

Tax rates are voted on?
That stuff is decided by politicians.
Yes, they are voted on, but voters often vote for politicians based on a single issue like those that wanted Roe v Wade overturned 

Bull F'n Shyte.

There are those who never pay in and there are millions here Illegally.

You vote to elect people who believe as you do. Those without skin vote for politicians who continue to give them more and more handouts

[merh]

Nov 17, 2022 2:43:42 GMT abbey1227 said:

Nov 16, 2022 20:10:01 GMT merh said:

We all have skin in the game.
We all live in this country.

Tax rates are voted on?
That stuff is decided by politicians.
Yes, they are voted on, but voters often vote for politicians based on a single issue like those that wanted Roe v Wade overturned 

Bull F'n Shyte.

There are those who never pay in and there are millions here Illegally.

You vote to elect people who believe as you do. Those without skin vote for politicians who continue to give them more and more handouts

We all pay gas tax & sales tax & all those taxes in our utility bills.

[abbey1227]

Nov 18, 2022 15:14:32 GMT merh said:

Nov 17, 2022 2:43:42 GMT abbey1227 said:

Bull F'n Shyte.

There are those who never pay in and there are millions here Illegally.

You vote to elect people who believe as you do. Those without skin vote for politicians who continue to give them more and more handouts

We all pay gas tax & sales tax & all those taxes in our utility bills.

FoodStamps/EBT is tax free.

And the things they do pay taxes on STILL do not make them Net Gains after it's all said and done. They're Net Losses

[merh]

Nov 18, 2022 15:36:36 GMT abbey1227 said:

Nov 18, 2022 15:14:32 GMT merh said:

We all pay gas tax & sales tax & all those taxes in our utility bills.

FoodStamps/EBT is tax free.

And the things they do pay taxes on STILL do not make them Net Gains after it's all said and done. They're Net Losses

They still buy stuff they have to pay taxes on.

They work their jobs.
They clean floors or cook burgers or whatever jobs they work that aren't paying them enough to feed their kids.

But you go ahead & sneer at those renters.

We didn't used to demean & dismiss people doing an honest day's work.

[abbey1227]

Nov 21, 2022 7:14:10 GMT merh said:

Nov 18, 2022 15:36:36 GMT abbey1227 said:

FoodStamps/EBT is tax free.

And the things they do pay taxes on STILL do not make them Net Gains after it's all said and done. They're Net Losses

They still buy stuff they have to pay taxes on.

They work their jobs.
They clean floors or cook burgers or whatever jobs they work that aren't paying them enough to feed their kids.

But you go ahead & sneer at those renters.

We didn't used to demean & dismiss people doing an honest day's work.

What part of the math doesn't add up for you? Too many takers crumbles the entire system.

How many are even employed?

And isn't having enough money to afford them part of the planning process BEFORE you have kids? Or do all these parents fall on hard times 'thru no fault of their own'? Or do massive increases in Inflation and the cost of living screw them over. (Let's Go Brandon)

I am sneering at such poor planners. Generational wealth. Look into it. After 30 years of renting instead of a mortgage........what do most have? Rent due

We didn't used to demand other people pay for our entire lives and lifestyles.

[merh]

Nov 21, 2022 7:34:00 GMT abbey1227 said:

Nov 21, 2022 7:14:10 GMT merh said:

They still buy stuff they have to pay taxes on.

They work their jobs.
They clean floors or cook burgers or whatever jobs they work that aren't paying them enough to feed their kids.

But you go ahead & sneer at those renters.

We didn't used to demean & dismiss people doing an honest day's work.

What part of the math doesn't add up for you? Too many takers crumbles the entire system.

How many are even employed?

And isn't having enough money to afford them part of the planning process BEFORE you have kids? Or do all these parents fall on hard times 'thru no fault of their own'? Or do massive increases in Inflation and the cost of living screw them over. (Let's Go Brandon)

I am sneering at such poor planners. Generational wealth. Look into it. After 30 years of renting instead of a mortgage........what do most have? Rent due

We didn't used to demand other people pay for our entire lives and lifestyles.

Nobody works except Republicans?

Sorry I can't afford to buy a home.
Sneer at life happens.

Sorry, another Christian thing is the whole "Be fruitful & multiply". A coworker kept bugging me about when was I going to have a kid "If you wait until you can afford it, you'll never have kids"

[abbey1227]

Nov 23, 2022 7:00:57 GMT merh said:

Nobody works except Republicans?

Sorry I can't afford to buy a home.
Sneer at life happens.

Sorry, another Christian thing is the whole "Be fruitful & multiply". A coworker kept bugging me about when was I going to have a kid "If you wait until you can afford it, you'll never have kids"

We both know that welfare lifers are on both sides of the aisle.

Probably not in your chosen location.

So, nobody but Christian hump and reproduce?  I've heard that line, too. Didn't compute for me as growing up 'without' made more of an impression on me than it did one of my younger sisters.

[merh]

During chats among coworkers, “We would be like ‘work is consuming my life.’ And (Bing) would be like, ‘Yeah, I don’t have a social life anyway,’” Sinclair recalled Thursday

People bitch about life/work balance.
Work wants to consume all.

[merh]

Nov 23, 2022 8:30:11 GMT abbey1227 said:

Nov 23, 2022 7:00:57 GMT merh said:

Nobody works except Republicans?

Sorry I can't afford to buy a home.
Sneer at life happens.

Sorry, another Christian thing is the whole "Be fruitful & multiply". A coworker kept bugging me about when was I going to have a kid "If you wait until you can afford it, you'll never have kids"

We both know that welfare lifers are on both sides of the aisle.

Probably not in your chosen location.

So, nobody but Christian hump and reproduce?  I've heard that line, too. Didn't compute for me as growing up 'without' made more of an impression on me than it did one of my younger sisters.

Look at your idol Elon bitching about people not reproducing enough

Why do you think there are so many credits & offers for parents to have children 

Government needs cogs

[Prometheus]

Nov 25, 2022 11:29:14 GMT merh said:

Nov 23, 2022 8:30:11 GMT abbey1227 said:

We both know that welfare lifers are on both sides of the aisle.

Probably not in your chosen location.

So, nobody but Christian hump and reproduce?  I've heard that line, too. Didn't compute for me as growing up 'without' made more of an impression on me than it did one of my younger sisters.

Look at your idol Elon bitching about people not reproducing enough

Why do you think there are so many credits & offers for parents to have children 

Government needs cogs

Since Abbey pays less than $2,600 a year in federal income tax, I'm not quite sure that he's a "net gain" to the system either.

Now let's see how fast he wants to total up gas taxes, sales taxes, property taxes etc.....

Thank goodness he has the wife to cover his shortfall.

Too bad the rest of working class America can't have their shortfall covered by their bosses....

[abbey1227]

Nov 25, 2022 11:29:14 GMT merh said:

Nov 23, 2022 8:30:11 GMT abbey1227 said:

We both know that welfare lifers are on both sides of the aisle.

Probably not in your chosen location.

So, nobody but Christian hump and reproduce?  I've heard that line, too. Didn't compute for me as growing up 'without' made more of an impression on me than it did one of my younger sisters.

Look at your idol Elon bitching about people not reproducing enough

Why do you think there are so many credits & offers for parents to have children 

Government needs cogs

How did you know I've got a poster of him on my wall? 

Because it leads to MORE Govt..........and in theory, more Revenue for Govt, though I see it as a Net Loss at this rate

No, businesses need cogs. Govt needs peons/slaves to vote for ever more Govt

[Prometheus]

Nov 25, 2022 12:50:26 GMT abbey1227 said:

Nov 25, 2022 11:29:14 GMT merh said:

Look at your idol Elon bitching about people not reproducing enough

Why do you think there are so many credits & offers for parents to have children 

Government needs cogs

How did you know I've got a poster of him on my wall? 

Because it leads to MORE Govt..........and in theory, more Revenue for Govt, though I see it as a Net Loss at this rate

No, businesses need cogs. Govt needs peons/slaves to vote for ever more Govt

Abbey works and Abbey votes

He is a cog... a peon... a slave....

[merh]

INSIDER
A Republican is seeking to throw out his daughter's absentee ballot after she voted for his Democratic opponent, a report says
Alia Shoaib
Sat, December 17, 2022 at 3:29 AM PST·3 min read

New Jersey Republican committeeman Tom Baio lost his re-election bid by three votes.

Baio is seeking to throw out his daughter's absentee ballot, who voted Democratic.

Republicans allege that several young Democrats who do not live in the state cast absentee ballots.

A New Jersey Republican committeeman is seeking to throw out his daughter's absentee ballot after she voted for his Democratic opponent, a report says.

Tom Baio, a Mendham Township committeeman, lost his re-election bid to his Democratic challenger Lauren Spirig by three votes, according to the Observer-Tribune.

Morris County Republicans said in a statement Thursday that they plan to file a lawsuit contesting the results, alleging that several young Democrats who cast vote-by-mail ballots did not meet the state residency requirement, per the paper.

Baio told the paper that among those is his daughter, Ariana Baio, who he said voted for the Democratic candidate.

The Republican expressed regret that he and his wife had mailed the ballot to their daughter, who is a journalist based in New York City,

"Like many parents driven by a sense of duty, we were wrong to advance the VBM [vote-by-mail ballot] to my daughter, Ariana," he said. "My daughter did answer the call of duty and did vote by the mail-in ballot."

"We all need to correct this behavior," he said. "As parents, and as citizens of towns as great as Mendham, I call on all Mendham residents next year to heed this example. As shameful as it is, we need to correct this behavior. I know I will."

In the statement from Morris County Republicans, Committee Chair Laura Ali said there was "at least one provisional ballot filed by a Republican voter that was questionably rejected," which she said could not be reconsidered due to recount rules.

She also identified "a large and growing number of vote-by-mail ballots filed by Democrat voters who do not appear to meet the residency requirement for voting in Mendham Township."

While she did not mention Baio's daughter in the statement, she said in an email to the Observer-Tribune: "Tom's daughter is a Democrat and voted the Democrat ticket. We had nothing to do with her vote."

The statement did, however, claim that one young voter who, it is alleged, did not appear to meet the residency requirement was the daughter of Morris County Democratic Chair and Mendham Township Committeewoman Amalia Duarte.

The statement claimed that Duarte's adult daughter voted despite living in Knoxville, Tennessee.

Duarte, told the paper that Republicans singling out her daughter was "deeply disappointing" and called on Baio to concede his loss.

"We've never had a recount in a Mendham Township election, let alone this type of divisiveness," she said. "Local and county Republican operatives are trying to pit neighbor against neighbor."

Baio initially lost the election by two votes, and a recount, in fact, increased that margin by another vote, according to the paper.

Voter registration law in New Jersey requires residents to be US citizens that are at least 18 years old and live in a county for at least 30 days before the election.

Read the original article on Business Insider

[abbey1227]

Nov 25, 2022 11:29:14 GMT merh said:

Look at your idol Elon bitching about people not reproducing enough

Why do you think there are so many credits & offers for parents to have children 

Government needs cogs

cogs

slaves

minions for their pyramid schemes

Same difference

[abbey1227]

Dec 17, 2022 20:29:18 GMT merh said:

INSIDER
A Republican is seeking to throw out his daughter's absentee ballot after she voted for his Democratic opponent, a report says

It's his own idiotic fault.

But WHY is she voting in Jersey if she lives in New York? Did she also vote in NY?

[merh]

Dec 18, 2022 13:26:35 GMT abbey1227 said:

Dec 17, 2022 20:29:18 GMT merh said:

It's his own idiotic fault.

But WHY is she voting in Jersey if she lives in New York? Did she also vote in NY?

That is an interesting question.
Maybe she claims residency in Jersey?

[abbey1227]

Dec 21, 2022 0:36:08 GMT merh said:

Dec 18, 2022 13:26:35 GMT abbey1227 said:

It's his own idiotic fault.

But WHY is she voting in Jersey if she lives in New York? Did she also vote in NY?

That is an interesting question.
Maybe she claims residency in Jersey?

It has to be a strange position to be in..........to raise your children in the way you feel best for them...........only to have them buy into a different belief system.

[merh]

Dec 21, 2022 2:29:24 GMT abbey1227 said:

Dec 21, 2022 0:36:08 GMT merh said:

That is an interesting question.
Maybe she claims residency in Jersey?

It has to be a strange position to be in..........to raise your children in the way you feel best for them...........only to have them buy into a different belief system.

This is what I keep telling you.

The job of a parent is to produce a useful cog for society.

Children aren't flowers that stay in your garden.
They are more like dandelion seeds floating off in the wind to plant themselves somewhere else to become their own plant. 

But humans are possessive.
They expect their "possessions" to stay, only children arent possessions. They are separate people. People with their own minds & thoughts.

I think it's fascinating watching them become people.
Frustrating,  maybe.
Probably 
They are not extentions of their parents.

Do you see yourself as an extension of your parents?
Or are you what your experiences growing up made you?

So why do people think their kids should be mini versions of them when they are very Probably not mini versions of their parents?

That whole love something, set it free.

[abbey1227]

Dec 22, 2022 7:21:43 GMT merh said:

Dec 21, 2022 2:29:24 GMT abbey1227 said:

It has to be a strange position to be in..........to raise your children in the way you feel best for them...........only to have them buy into a different belief system.

This is what I keep telling you.

The job of a parent is to produce a useful cog for society.

Children aren't flowers that stay in your garden.
They are more like dandelion seeds floating off in the wind to plant themselves somewhere else to become their own plant. 

But humans are possessive.
They expect their "possessions" to stay, only children arent possessions. They are separate people. People with their own minds & thoughts.

I think it's fascinating watching them become people.
Frustrating,  maybe.
Probably 
They are not extentions of their parents.

Do you see yourself as an extension of your parents?
Or are you what your experiences growing up made you?

So why do people think their kids should be mini versions of them when they are very Probably not mini versions of their parents?

That whole love something, set it free.

Not sure how that entire first part excuses away shitty behavior by young adults? What's so possessive about requiring them to refrain from crime and abusive behavior?

An extension? hmmm, I'd say I am a direct Reaction to my parental examples. I am more of what my experiences taught me though, cuz they sure weren't providing a lot of good lessons or teachings to pass along.

I think young people should be 'mini-versions' of aspiring and productive people. They can do whatever they so long as they're young and childless, too. Free as the wind to try all sorts of things.

I think you're completely dismissing the Dad role of Guidance. Moms tend to love no matter what, Dads tend to expect improvement and growth ....or else. It's an olde school sexist trope, sure, but it holds true, I think. If Dad ain't around to provide it, Mom's extremely tough job just got tougher, too