Housing Shortage

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Coronado ferry view of downtown San Diego

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Otay Lakes

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Carlsbad

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Jan 26, 2022 4:49:59 GMT abbey1227 said:

Seems like a good way to start solving this issue would be to eliminate the presence of all non-US citizens for starters.

What a truly uninformed comment that is. Do you not understand that besides a housing shortage, there is also a labor shortage? We can't get enough people to work for us as it is. I know places that have had to cut back their hours because they can't find enough employees. I know people who are burnt out due to working too many overtime hours.

[abbey1227]

Apr 25, 2022 20:51:51 GMT merh said:

What if California's 'housing crunch' doesn't really exist?


Those earlier numbers stemmed in part from expert estimates that California’s high growth would continue indefinitely. We now see that is not automatic. Fewer newcomers mean less need for new homes.

https:/californias-housing-crunch-doesnt-really-175014256.html

So a boon to developers?
Construction created jobs?

Wait.........THAT's the argument I've made about the millions of Illegals in the US being removed. And been scoffed at for it. 

What you're ignoring is that developers are not in the business of losing money...... y'know, like Govt does.

They wouldn't normally bother building things without a known customer base ready and willing to make them their profits.

Either way, where's that homeless shelter getting built?

[abbey1227]

Apr 26, 2022 0:49:35 GMT @adolf said:

Jan 26, 2022 4:49:59 GMT abbey1227 said:

Seems like a good way to start solving this issue would be to eliminate the presence of all non-US citizens for starters.

What a truly uninformed comment that is. Do you not understand that besides a housing shortage, there is also a labor shortage? We can't get enough people to work for us as it is. I know places that have had to cut back their hours because they can't find enough employees. I know people who are burnt out due to working too many overtime hours.

Where you located, Adolf?

Over here our dopey president is claiming the Unemployment numbers are at historic lows, but like you've said.....EVERYONE is looking for employees. So somebody is flat out LYING.

Also, don't assume that I am totally against Guest Worker visas for truly needed workers........but while we've got millions of able bodied citizens just living off of welfare in some form or another? I don't endorse bringing in foreigners.

[abbey1227]

Apr 26, 2022 0:30:32 GMT merh said:

Titled "A wild NIMBY appears"



Apparently popping up all over town

Seems like it all depends on whose lawn you're standing on. 

I really would have thought there'd be a somewhat universal agreement in place across the country about the Percentage of rental properties any given area might deem appropriate before it becomes overly saturated.

As the renters outnumber the owners, all I see is more and more complaining of the wealth gap going forward.

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Apr 26, 2022 3:05:55 GMT abbey1227 said:

Apr 26, 2022 0:49:35 GMT @adolf said:

Where you located, Adolf?

I am currently working up in the mountains of western Canada, but am originally from Alsace in France about 20 miles from the German border.

[merh]

Apr 26, 2022 3:02:57 GMT abbey1227 said:

Apr 25, 2022 20:51:51 GMT merh said:

https:/californias-housing-crunch-doesnt-really-175014256.html

So a boon to developers?
Construction created jobs?

Wait.........THAT's the argument I've made about the millions of Illegals in the US being removed. And been scoffed at for it. 

What you're ignoring is that developers are not in the business of losing money...... y'know, like Govt does.

They wouldn't normally bother building things without a known customer base ready and willing to make them their profits.

Either way, where's that homeless shelter getting built?

It's not the construction company's problem.
Not really the developers. 
The various cities have passed their restrictions so the developers can't develop.
This emergency creates an override so they can build more units so they can make more money. Those units being empty or not isn't their problem.  It's the problem of the management company trying to fill the units.

There is so much roadwork this year. 
Huge demand.  
Renters are getting kicked out of their apartments so the units can be remodeled so the rent can be increased because of this demand which is apparently illusionary.

So you can't see?

[merh]

Apr 26, 2022 3:09:09 GMT abbey1227 said:

Apr 26, 2022 0:30:32 GMT merh said:

Titled "A wild NIMBY appears"



Apparently popping up all over town

Seems like it all depends on whose lawn you're standing on. 

I really would have thought there'd be a somewhat universal agreement in place across the country about the Percentage of rental properties any given area might deem appropriate before it becomes overly saturated.

As the renters outnumber the owners, all I see is more and more complaining of the wealth gap going forward.

You are so superior about it, aren't you?
Living in a place where houses don't cost an arm & a leg.

One can just hear the snooty derision in the tone when you say renters 

[abbey1227]

Apr 26, 2022 9:32:19 GMT merh said:

It's not the construction company's problem.
Not really the developers. 
The various cities have passed their restrictions so the developers can't develop.
This emergency creates an override so they can build more units so they can make more money. Those units being empty or not isn't their problem.  It's the problem of the management company trying to fill the units.

There is so much roadwork this year. 
Huge demand.  
Renters are getting kicked out of their apartments so the units can be remodeled so the rent can be increased because of this demand which is apparently illusionary.

So you can't see?

Can't see what?

The latest tactic by landlords/owners to make money? Improving apartments and jacking the rent? It's THEIR property. Why would I have an issue with that?

Another factor in that may be trying to recoup some of the losses they faced over the covid 'No Rent Collection' policies.      You do realize that once again, the responsible are going to get stuck paying for the irresponsible? This is no different than thievery in a given area. Prices go up to make up for the Losses, so everyone gets to pay more because of the actions of a few.

[abbey1227]

Apr 26, 2022 9:36:14 GMT merh said:

Apr 26, 2022 3:09:09 GMT abbey1227 said:

Seems like it all depends on whose lawn you're standing on. 

I really would have thought there'd be a somewhat universal agreement in place across the country about the Percentage of rental properties any given area might deem appropriate before it becomes overly saturated.

As the renters outnumber the owners, all I see is more and more complaining of the wealth gap going forward.

You are so superior about it, aren't you?
Living in a place where houses don't cost an arm & a leg.

One can just hear the snooty derision in the tone when you say renters 

What's so superior about realizing being an owner usually puts you in a better spot than a renter? Doesn't that just make sense?

The price of homes in this area went up a good 20% like most other places, why do you think it didn't?

I will admit to being a little snooty about it.     I just don't understand how any renters didn't realize their rent might not stay fixed year after year, decade after decade? And it's still due decades later.

[merh]

Rent $1,100/mo.

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Apr 26, 2022 3:05:55 GMT abbey1227 said:

Apr 26, 2022 0:49:35 GMT @adolf said:

What a truly uninformed comment that is. Do you not understand that besides a housing shortage, there is also a labor shortage? We can't get enough people to work for us as it is. I know places that have had to cut back their hours because they can't find enough employees. I know people who are burnt out due to working too many overtime hours.

Over here our dopey president is claiming the Unemployment numbers are at historic lows, but like you've said.....EVERYONE is looking for employees. So somebody is flat out LYING.

Low unemployment numbers means that everyone has a job. So this is where the labor shortage is. No one is lying, it's just that you lack the ability to put 2+2 together in order to understand.

[ant-mac]

Apr 26, 2022 23:55:12 GMT @adolf said:

Apr 26, 2022 3:05:55 GMT abbey1227 said:

Over here our dopey president is claiming the Unemployment numbers are at historic lows, but like you've said.....EVERYONE is looking for employees. So somebody is flat out LYING.

Low unemployment numbers means that everyone has a job.

So this is where the labor shortage is.

No one is lying, it's just that you lack the ability to put 2+2 together in order to understand.

1. No, it only means that most people have a job, otherwise there wouldn't even be low unemployment if everyone had a job.

Also, it doesn't take into account those who may have removed themselves from the job market, for whatever reason, willingly or unwillingly.

Or those who are underemployed... they have a job, but still can't make enough to afford the cost of living.

2. That might certainly be the main reason, but it's unlikely to be the only reason.

3. Life should be straightforward and easy to understand...

Unfortunately, it seldom is.

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Apr 27, 2022 0:23:54 GMT ant-mac said:

Apr 26, 2022 23:55:12 GMT @adolf said:

Low unemployment numbers means that everyone has a job.

So this is where the labor shortage is.

No one is lying, it's just that you lack the ability to put 2+2 together in order to understand.

1. No, it only means that most people have a job, 

O..k MOSTpeople.

[abbey1227]

Apr 26, 2022 23:55:12 GMT @adolf said:

Apr 26, 2022 3:05:55 GMT abbey1227 said:

Over here our dopey president is claiming the Unemployment numbers are at historic lows, but like you've said.....EVERYONE is looking for employees. So somebody is flat out LYING.

Low unemployment numbers means that everyone has a job. So this is where the labor shortage is. No one is lying, it's just that you lack the ability to put 2+2 together in order to understand.

You are either unaware or purposefully ignoring the 'new math' that they employ while counting Unemployment these days. You see, they stopped counting people who haven't even been looking for a job for more than 4 weeks.

2+2 is very easy to understand.

Just as the unemployment figure should be a simple formula of ALL the able bodied people eligible to work vs who actually has a job from that larger group. No need for semantics or cup games.

[abbey1227]

Apr 26, 2022 23:44:20 GMT merh said:

Rent $1,100/mo.

No wonder those dang sheds have gotten so expensive recently. They're now rental properties?    Too funny

That She Shed commercial must have really taken off

[merh]

Apr 27, 2022 1:55:05 GMT abbey1227 said:

Apr 26, 2022 23:55:12 GMT @adolf said:

Low unemployment numbers means that everyone has a job. So this is where the labor shortage is. No one is lying, it's just that you lack the ability to put 2+2 together in order to understand.

You are either unaware or purposefully ignoring the 'new math' that they employ while counting Unemployment these days. You see, they stopped counting people who haven't even been looking for a job for more than 4 weeks.

2+2 is very easy to understand.

Just as the unemployment figure should be a simple formula of ALL the able bodied people eligible to work vs who actually has a job from that larger group. No need for semantics or cup games.

Per investopedia,

underemployment, or working at a job that requires fewer skills and offers lower pay than the best jobs for which a worker is qualified. The consultant would also be considered an involuntary part-time worker, yet another factor the unemployment rate does not consider.

Whether a Worker Has Given up Job Searching
The BLS only counts as unemployed those who "do not have a job, have actively looked for work in the prior four weeks, and are currently available for work." If you have a cold (known as a "temporary illness"), you are still considered available for work by the survey.

However, if the state of the economy is so bad that you become depressed about losing your job, or your recent attempts at job searching have been so futile that you haven't attempted to get a new job in the last four weeks, you are no longer considered unemployed. Instead, you become "marginally attached" to the workforce or a "discouraged worker" and are no longer counted in the unemployment rate.

Other people not considered part of the labor force include prisoners, people confined to nursing homes, members of the Armed Forces on active duty, homemakers, students, and retired persons.

What the Unemployment Numbers Mean in Context
Another problem with the unemployment rate is that it cannot be used to accurately compare unemployment levels from different years namely because of the changes in age makeup of the population, and other factors.


For example, during the height of the coronavirus pandemic, the unemployment figures rose as employment plummeted, especially in the tourism and hospitality sectors. The sudden rise in unemployment was not reflective of society under regular conditions, as the pandemic impacted many jobs.

In addition, government methods of measuring the unemployment rate may change over time, as they did in 1994 when the BLS overhauled the CPS, changing its questionnaire and some of its labor-force concepts.

So it changed awhile back.

[abbey1227]

Apr 27, 2022 10:37:14 GMT merh said:

Apr 27, 2022 1:55:05 GMT abbey1227 said:

You are either unaware or purposefully ignoring the 'new math' that they employ while counting Unemployment these days. You see, they stopped counting people who haven't even been looking for a job for more than 4 weeks.

2+2 is very easy to understand.

Just as the unemployment figure should be a simple formula of ALL the able bodied people eligible to work vs who actually has a job from that larger group. No need for semantics or cup games.

Per investopedia,

underemployment, or working at a job that requires fewer skills and offers lower pay than the best jobs for which a worker is qualified. The consultant would also be considered an involuntary part-time worker, yet another factor the unemployment rate does not consider.

Whether a Worker Has Given up Job Searching
The BLS only counts as unemployed those who "do not have a job, have actively looked for work in the prior four weeks, and are currently available for work." If you have a cold (known as a "temporary illness"), you are still considered available for work by the survey.

However, if the state of the economy is so bad that you become depressed about losing your job, or your recent attempts at job searching have been so futile that you haven't attempted to get a new job in the last four weeks, you are no longer considered unemployed. Instead, you become "marginally attached" to the workforce or a "discouraged worker" and are no longer counted in the unemployment rate.

Other people not considered part of the labor force include prisoners, people confined to nursing homes, members of the Armed Forces on active duty, homemakers, students, and retired persons.

What the Unemployment Numbers Mean in Context
Another problem with the unemployment rate is that it cannot be used to accurately compare unemployment levels from different years namely because of the changes in age makeup of the population, and other factors.


For example, during the height of the coronavirus pandemic, the unemployment figures rose as employment plummeted, especially in the tourism and hospitality sectors. The sudden rise in unemployment was not reflective of society under regular conditions, as the pandemic impacted many jobs.

In addition, government methods of measuring the unemployment rate may change over time, as they did in 1994 when the BLS overhauled the CPS, changing its questionnaire and some of its labor-force concepts.

So it changed awhile back.

doesn't matter to me ........whether is was an (R) or (D) that it it, too

It's clearly a goofy way to do it........and they did it so they could hide more truths from people