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Post by merh on Apr 22, 2022 23:05:12 GMT
This is what I don't get. I don't know anyone who held Obama or holds Biden in the level of idolatry many Trump fans seem to hold Trump. I think it's stupid the racist gorilla comments I used to see all the time in the yahoo comments aimed at the Obamas, particularly Michelle, but I can't say I interacted with anyone who saw Obama as close to Christ like those paintings one sees of Trump with Christ. I don't think we worship our guys like your side did with Donnie.
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Post by abbey1227 on Apr 23, 2022 1:44:31 GMT
It's the whole if you think about it, you'll decide against doing it. The whole "free hotel stay if you attend our vacation rental" because they are offering you this deal you just have to agree to or walk away & never have this chance again. I also have grown wary of the whole victimized thing.I accept it happens to women & people of color & seniors. Immigrants. But the whole persecution against Christians? Sorry. Christians are the majority in America. They aren't persecuted. It's like they need to keep that being thrown to the lions in the Roman days.
so pretty much everyone but white people? especially guys?
I think it's more the ruling Govt has abused quite a few and often enough it's the Christians lately. They call that weaponizing things like the IRS
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Post by abbey1227 on Apr 23, 2022 1:46:53 GMT
This is what I don't get. I don't know anyone who held Obama or holds Biden in the level of idolatry many Trump fans seem to hold Trump. I think it's stupid the racist gorilla comments I used to see all the time in the yahoo comments aimed at the Obamas, particularly Michelle, but I can't say I interacted with anyone who saw Obama as close to Christ like those paintings one sees of Trump with Christ. I don't think we worship our guys like your side did with Donnie.
I think the Obama fawning and worshiping was easily worse than Trump.
That video of everyone glomming over him just last week.........while feeble Joe was in the background trying to get anyone to pay him some attention? Even Barrack blew him off.
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Post by merh on Apr 23, 2022 16:56:57 GMT
It's the whole if you think about it, you'll decide against doing it. The whole "free hotel stay if you attend our vacation rental" because they are offering you this deal you just have to agree to or walk away & never have this chance again. I also have grown wary of the whole victimized thing.I accept it happens to women & people of color & seniors. Immigrants. But the whole persecution against Christians? Sorry. Christians are the majority in America. They aren't persecuted. It's like they need to keep that being thrown to the lions in the Roman days.
so pretty much everyone but white people? especially guys?
I think it's more the ruling Govt has abused quite a few and often enough it's the Christians lately. They call that weaponizing things like the IRS
Women aren't white? Christians aren't black or Hispanic? No. Christians are the damned majority. Most of the complaining is when Christians are preventing from running roughshod over everyone else. Like getting upset they can't have prayer in school. Sorry. What's wrong with the moment of silence? Afraid your brat won't pray? Because praying in the name of Jesus helps the Jewish, Muslim, Wiccan, etc how? You do remember most Christians wind up mentioning Jesus somewhere in their prayers, right? Dude, have you forgotten my personal experience in a majority black school? Don't think I know prejudice?
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Post by merh on Apr 23, 2022 17:48:04 GMT
This is what I don't get. I don't know anyone who held Obama or holds Biden in the level of idolatry many Trump fans seem to hold Trump. I think it's stupid the racist gorilla comments I used to see all the time in the yahoo comments aimed at the Obamas, particularly Michelle, but I can't say I interacted with anyone who saw Obama as close to Christ like those paintings one sees of Trump with Christ. I don't think we worship our guys like your side did with Donnie. I think the Obama fawning and worshiping was easily worse than Trump. That video of everyone glomming over him just last week.........while feeble Joe was in the background trying to get anyone to pay him some attention? Even Barrack blew him off.
See? The Rachel Maddow/Tucker Carlson bit. The Daily Show has joked about the correspondents having to Detox for watching hours on end of Fox News. I didn't see the Obama video. You don't think it was just the media fawning over him? Like "we are warning you, this footage is graphic" Ukraine war stuff? They are LOVING it. People I interact with in real life could care less about Obama. Trump & his followers bitched Biden had no turnout to his campaign rallys.(Trump is apparently losing attendees, though) Because I decide who I am voting for. I don't need to play rock concert fangirl. Cowher has a thread about President popularity over on v2 www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/will-presidents-ever-be-popular-again/ar-AAWu8La?cvid=86d8238506e140609d2e8f70f0fc8cd4Cowher blames the 24 hour news cycle, but honestly, every President has been unpopular at times. Look at Lincoln. The south didn't much like him, now did they? Trump held those rallies, but he wasn't that popular overall throughout his presidency. The GOP loved him, but the Democrats hated him & the independents were split. Remember, as low as Biden is in polling now, he still is riding above Trump’s numbers on the same day in office. He's close to Truman at this point in their terms. The President is supposed to be mostly unseen. We don't need to be reminded he's there every damned day.
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Post by LokisMom on Apr 23, 2022 18:06:56 GMT
This is what I don't get. I don't know anyone who held Obama or holds Biden in the level of idolatry many Trump fans seem to hold Trump. I think it's stupid the racist gorilla comments I used to see all the time in the yahoo comments aimed at the Obamas, particularly Michelle, but I can't say I interacted with anyone who saw Obama as close to Christ like those paintings one sees of Trump with Christ. I don't think we worship our guys like your side did with Donnie.
I think the Obama fawning and worshiping was easily worse than Trump.
That video of everyone glomming over him just last week.........while feeble Joe was in the background trying to get anyone to pay him some attention? Even Barrack blew him off.
Fawning by the press is not worship by the voters. Anybody with an Anthropology 101 under their belt can easily see the difference. This personality/political cult has never existed in the Democratic Party or the Republican Party.
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Post by abbey1227 on Apr 23, 2022 18:13:32 GMT
Women aren't white? Christians aren't black or Hispanic? No. Christians are the damned majority. Most of the complaining is when Christians are preventing from running roughshod over everyone else. Like getting upset they can't have prayer in school. Sorry. What's wrong with the moment of silence? Afraid your brat won't pray? Because praying in the name of Jesus helps the Jewish, Muslim, Wiccan, etc how? You do remember most Christians wind up mentioning Jesus somewhere in their prayers, right? Dude, have you forgotten my personal experience in a majority black school? Don't think I know prejudice?
I have never supported school prayer.........a minute of silence? sure
Because you were treated with such prejudice, you should back me up more on these racial discussions. ALL the groups take their turns. I think the whole notion/practice is ridiculous.
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Post by abbey1227 on Apr 23, 2022 18:16:42 GMT
I think the Obama fawning and worshiping was easily worse than Trump.
That video of everyone glomming over him just last week.........while feeble Joe was in the background trying to get anyone to pay him some attention? Even Barrack blew him off.
Fawning by the press is not worship by the voters. Anybody with an Anthropology 101 under their belt can easily see the difference. This personality/political cult has never existed in the Democratic Party or the Republican Party.
You don't remember all the bumper stickers, t-shirts and whatnot?
If anything, it sorta paved the way for all of the Trump merchandise.
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Post by abbey1227 on Apr 23, 2022 18:29:22 GMT
I didn't see the Obama video.You don't think it was just the media fawning over him? Like "we are warning you, this footage is graphic" Ukraine war stuff? They are LOVING it. People I interact with in real life could care less about Obama. Trump & his followers bitched Biden had no turnout to his campaign rallys.(Trump is apparently losing attendees, though) Because I decide who I am voting for. I don't need to play rock concert fangirl. Cowher has a thread about President popularity over on v2 www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/will-presidents-ever-be-popular-again/ar-AAWu8La?cvid=86d8238506e140609d2e8f70f0fc8cd4Cowher blames the 24 hour news cycle, but honestly, every President has been unpopular at times. Look at Lincoln. The south didn't much like him, now did they? Trump held those rallies, but he wasn't that popular overall throughout his presidency. The GOP loved him, but the Democrats hated him & the independents were split. Remember, as low as Biden is in polling now, he still is riding above Trump’s numbers on the same day in office. He's close to Truman at this point in their terms. The President is supposed to be mostly unseen. We don't need to be reminded he's there every damned day.
just the fact you haven't seen that video says a lot about the media in the US.
THAt was part of the reason so many suspect dirty deeds in the election.........HUGE crowds compared to NOBODY showing up. Except for voting day?
It has definitely turned into more of a Team Sport thing these days.
There's a big part of the poll numbers, too. Lots of people still vote democratic despite claiming to be independent. Add in the media bias and it's no wonder Biden somehow and magically is even in the 40s at all. Trump's poll numbers were screwed into the toilet the day after the 2016 election. The media kept it's thumb on the scale the entire time and devoted their lives to 24/7 NEGATIVE reporting on the guy. So Cowher's right about that bit, too.
The GOP tolerated him, but that party is not a big fan of Trump. That's clear by how many have mouthed off this entire time.
That's right we don't need to be reminded EVERY day......... so ask yourself why Biden can disappear for weeks with nary a criticism......but Trump you heard about almost hourly?
The funny thing about it now, too........ CNN and others have taken a dive in the ratings because they really have NOTHING to offer anymore. That 21 Day exercise with CNN + is hilarious and pathetic all at once. Hopefully Chris Wallace got the $Money upfront
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Post by merh on Apr 24, 2022 0:25:05 GMT
I think the Obama fawning and worshiping was easily worse than Trump.
That video of everyone glomming over him just last week.........while feeble Joe was in the background trying to get anyone to pay him some attention? Even Barrack blew him off.
Fawning by the press is not worship by the voters. Anybody with an Anthropology 101 under their belt can easily see the difference. This personality/political cult has never existed in the Democratic Party or the Republican Party. I thought the cult of personality was exactly what the founding fathers wanted to avoid
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Post by merh on Apr 24, 2022 0:26:33 GMT
Fawning by the press is not worship by the voters. Anybody with an Anthropology 101 under their belt can easily see the difference. This personality/political cult has never existed in the Democratic Party or the Republican Party.
You don't remember all the bumper stickers, t-shirts and whatnot?
If anything, it sorta paved the way for all of the Trump merchandise.
Nope. I saw way more bumper stickers, t-shirts & whatnot trashing Obama.
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Post by abbey1227 on Apr 24, 2022 2:25:38 GMT
You don't remember all the bumper stickers, t-shirts and whatnot?
If anything, it sorta paved the way for all of the Trump merchandise.
Nope. I saw way more bumper stickers, t-shirts & whatnot trashing Obama.
I think this may come down to the way our brains are wired to remember negative things more than positive things, y'know?
A survival instinct of olde.
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Post by LokisMom on Apr 24, 2022 5:03:08 GMT
Nope. I saw way more bumper stickers, t-shirts & whatnot trashing Obama.
I think this may come down to the way our brains are wired to remember negative things more than positive things, y'know?
A survival instinct of olde.
The Tea Parties were founded as opposition to any and everything Obama. Remember the man couldn’t even wear a tan suit without him being in the wrong.
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Post by merh on Apr 24, 2022 6:18:00 GMT
I didn't see the Obama video.You don't think it was just the media fawning over him? Like "we are warning you, this footage is graphic" Ukraine war stuff? They are LOVING it. People I interact with in real life could care less about Obama. Trump & his followers bitched Biden had no turnout to his campaign rallys.(Trump is apparently losing attendees, though) Because I decide who I am voting for. I don't need to play rock concert fangirl. Cowher has a thread about President popularity over on v2 www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/will-presidents-ever-be-popular-again/ar-AAWu8La?cvid=86d8238506e140609d2e8f70f0fc8cd4Cowher blames the 24 hour news cycle, but honestly, every President has been unpopular at times. Look at Lincoln. The south didn't much like him, now did they? Trump held those rallies, but he wasn't that popular overall throughout his presidency. The GOP loved him, but the Democrats hated him & the independents were split. Remember, as low as Biden is in polling now, he still is riding above Trump’s numbers on the same day in office. He's close to Truman at this point in their terms. The President is supposed to be mostly unseen. We don't need to be reminded he's there every damned day.
just the fact you haven't seen that video says a lot about the media in the US.
THAt was part of the reason so many suspect dirty deeds in the election.........HUGE crowds compared to NOBODY showing up. Except for voting day?
It has definitely turned into more of a Team Sport thing these days.
There's a big part of the poll numbers, too. Lots of people still vote democratic despite claiming to be independent. Add in the media bias and it's no wonder Biden somehow and magically is even in the 40s at all. Trump's poll numbers were screwed into the toilet the day after the 2016 election. The media kept it's thumb on the scale the entire time and devoted their lives to 24/7 NEGATIVE reporting on the guy. So Cowher's right about that bit, too.
The GOP tolerated him, but that party is not a big fan of Trump. That's clear by how many have mouthed off this entire time.
That's right we don't need to be reminded EVERY day......... so ask yourself why Biden can disappear for weeks with nary a criticism......but Trump you heard about almost hourly?
The funny thing about it now, too........ CNN and others have taken a dive in the ratings because they really have NOTHING to offer anymore. That 21 Day exercise with CNN + is hilarious and pathetic all at once. Hopefully Chris Wallace got the $Money upfront
I'm not that much older than you. That's how it was in the 60s & 70s. Yes, even the 80s & 90s. You didn't live your political party 24/7. You voted in the election, then spent probably the next 3 yrs (because who votes in the midterms, right?) Living your life, working, paying bills, being a cog in the system that is the USA. So no. The average American didn't go to political rallies. Hell, our voter percentages hover closer to 50-60% so a bunch of Americans don't bother voting.
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Post by merh on Apr 24, 2022 6:20:29 GMT
Nope. I saw way more bumper stickers, t-shirts & whatnot trashing Obama.
I think this may come down to the way our brains are wired to remember negative things more than positive things, y'know?
A survival instinct of olde.
No. People remember positive things all the time. People COMPLAIN. They will pick up the phone to bitch far more times than to praise for service done well.
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Post by abbey1227 on Apr 24, 2022 11:42:29 GMT
I think this may come down to the way our brains are wired to remember negative things more than positive things, y'know?
A survival instinct of olde.
The Tea Parties were founded as opposition to any and everything Obama. Remember the man couldn’t even wear a tan suit without him being in the wrong.
Leave that stupid complaint about the suit out of it.........the TEA Party was about being Taxed Enough Already.
Just because the Left supports big Govt openly, doesn't excuse the blatant lies and support of big Govt by the GOP. They did a pretty fine job of scuttling the Tea Party movement at every turn, too.
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Post by abbey1227 on Apr 24, 2022 11:44:34 GMT
No. People remember positive things all the time.People COMPLAIN. They will pick up the phone to bitch far more times than to praise for service done well.
Let me repeat.........Evolution wired us to remember bad things MORE than good things.
It sorta explains the human condition of always looking for foreign substances to make them 'feel good'.
If they were better at only remembering the good stuff, we wouldn't be seeing so much escapism.
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Post by merh on Apr 24, 2022 15:03:53 GMT
No. People remember positive things all the time.People COMPLAIN. They will pick up the phone to bitch far more times than to praise for service done well.
Let me repeat.........Evolution wired us to remember bad things MORE than good things.
It sorta explains the human condition of always looking for foreign substances to make them 'feel good'.
If they were better at only remembering the good stuff, we wouldn't be seeing so much escapism.
neurosciencenews.com/acc-intrusive-thoughts-20393/amp/We forget bad stuff all the time. Very painful stuff. I went to the hospital in the afternoon on Halloween because my water broke. After a couple hours, it wasn't progressing so the doctor induced labor. Finally the next morning I was fully dilated so I could start pushing around 6am. My kid was born around 9am so 3 hours of pushing. I remember almost none of it. Just suddenly they decided to bring in a squat bar, set it up, & boom, the room was full of people & my kid was born. Because if I remembered it all, I probably wouldn't have been open to another kid. (Which is a different issue. When I wanted another kid, my husband didn't, so we just never agreed on a second kid) But this is also true for a lot of things in life. But how often have you taken time to go back to compliment a store for something vs go back to complain? Any telephone operator will tell you, complainers are more common. Look at all the Karens
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Post by abbey1227 on Apr 24, 2022 17:04:35 GMT
But this is also true for a lot of things in life. But how often have you taken time to go back to compliment a store for something vs go back to complain? Any telephone operator will tell you, complainers are more common. Look at all the Karens
Why would there be so many complainers if all their brains suppressed the bad experiences?
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Post by merh on Apr 24, 2022 18:32:41 GMT
But this is also true for a lot of things in life. But how often have you taken time to go back to compliment a store for something vs go back to complain? Any telephone operator will tell you, complainers are more common. Look at all the Karens
Why would there be so many complainers if all their brains suppressed the bad experiences? A clerk one imagines is rude is nothing compared to say, cutting off a finger or falling 100 ft & surviving. Real trauma. Not inconvenience Lone my 3 fricken hours of labor on do not recall. Bits, like my husband offering me an ice cube or them bringing in that squat bar, but how there were.that many people in there or what the discussion was, I have no idea. There's a picture in the article of a dog bone like milk bone. So you remember you had a dog. You remember it died, but maybe you found it all mangled on the side of the road after it got hit. That part of the memory likely fades/gets blocked. You don't think the dog is still alive.
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