We Have No Bananas Today

[merh]

Oct 11, 2022 3:52:21 GMT abbey1227 said:

Oct 10, 2022 23:00:14 GMT merh said:

They are angry at where the power in this country has put them.

The companies claim to be "family," but do not care.

Because that's what the public demanded from their PR departments.     Who told you to  EVER believe that?

It's no different than all of these corporate charity drives. You think the company truly cares? Or they just do it cuz it looks good to the general public?

And those corporate donations are probably a good chunk of the charity in this country anyway........so WHY all the bitching?

Th3e AVERAGE person does not care, merh. Why would a company or a govt be ANY different? They're comprised of people, too.

And bragging up family doesn't seem all that smart an idea when you consider what families get up to with one another, as well.

It's PR alright.

They manipulate people.

That's the tag with Starbucks. 
The workers are "family" so they don't need to form a union. They do not call them employees. They are "partners". They sell that their partners are special to them, that the company cares so much for their partner family.

[abbey1227]

Oct 11, 2022 5:40:07 GMT merh said:

Oct 11, 2022 3:52:21 GMT abbey1227 said:

Because that's what the public demanded from their PR departments.     Who told you to  EVER believe that?

It's no different than all of these corporate charity drives. You think the company truly cares? Or they just do it cuz it looks good to the general public?

And those corporate donations are probably a good chunk of the charity in this country anyway........so WHY all the bitching?

Th3e AVERAGE person does not care, merh. Why would a company or a govt be ANY different? They're comprised of people, too.

And bragging up family doesn't seem all that smart an idea when you consider what families get up to with one another, as well.

It's PR alright.

They manipulate people.

That's the tag with Starbucks. 
The workers are "family" so they don't need to form a union. They do not call them employees. They are "partners". They sell that their partners are special to them, that the company cares so much for their partner family.

Can you be manipulated?

Partners? Does Starbucks have profit sharing for it's employees?

Sorry, I've just never bought into any of that schpeel from any company.

[merh]

Oct 11, 2022 5:47:30 GMT abbey1227 said:

Oct 11, 2022 5:40:07 GMT merh said:

It's PR alright.

They manipulate people.

That's the tag with Starbucks. 
The workers are "family" so they don't need to form a union. They do not call them employees. They are "partners". They sell that their partners are special to them, that the company cares so much for their partner family.

Can you be manipulated?

Partners? Does Starbucks have profit sharing for it's employees?

Sorry, I've just never bought into any of that schpeel from any company.

It has kept the unionization at bay for how long?

[abbey1227]

Oct 11, 2022 7:56:10 GMT merh said:

Oct 11, 2022 5:47:30 GMT abbey1227 said:

Can you be manipulated?

Partners? Does Starbucks have profit sharing for it's employees?

Sorry, I've just never bought into any of that schpeel from any company.

It has kept the unionization at bay for how long?

I don't know. How long has Union been attempting to infiltrate them?

Once again, where' the Union Coffee Shop franchise? nationwide?    f'n parasites

[merh]

Oct 11, 2022 8:11:44 GMT abbey1227 said:

Oct 11, 2022 7:56:10 GMT merh said:

It has kept the unionization at bay for how long?

I don't know. How long has Union been attempting to infiltrate them?

Once again, where' the Union Coffee Shop franchise? nationwide?    f'n parasites

Movies?
Music?
Theater?

Union at the nationwide scale.

If Statbucks truly were treating the employees as partners in more than name, would the employees be trying to unionize?.
.

[abbey1227]

Oct 11, 2022 8:51:55 GMT merh said:

Oct 11, 2022 8:11:44 GMT abbey1227 said:

I don't know. How long has Union been attempting to infiltrate them?

Once again, where' the Union Coffee Shop franchise? nationwide?    f'n parasites

Movies?
Music?
Theater?

Union at the nationwide scale.

If Statbucks truly were treating the employees as partners in more than name, would the employees be trying to unionize?.
.

You're completely ignoring my point........ on purpose?

Unions can spend their money donating to politicians........OR they could simply start opening up businesses of their own. But they don't do that. Because that would require taking the  risk and responsibility onto themselves. They'd actually have to work harder and compete against others. They'd likely fail most of the time.

If Starbucks is so horrible in their treatment, then any Union should be able to woo their fully trained workers away from them with higher pay and better bennies......because there's no evil rich guy at the top hogging all the profits, right?

Open up a McDowells instead of pestering McDonalds. Open up a Worldmart, instead of leeching off of Walmart. Open up a Hammer & Sicklebucks instead of forcing union onto Starbucks

[merh]

Oct 11, 2022 9:13:31 GMT abbey1227 said:

Oct 11, 2022 8:51:55 GMT merh said:

Movies?
Music?
Theater?

Union at the nationwide scale.

If Statbucks truly were treating the employees as partners in more than name, would the employees be trying to unionize?.
.

You're completely ignoring my point........ on purpose?

Unions can spend their money donating to politicians........OR they could simply start opening up businesses of their own. But they don't do that. Because that would require taking the  risk and responsibility onto themselves. They'd actually have to work harder and compete against others. They'd likely fail most of the time.

If Starbucks is so horrible in their treatment, then any Union should be able to woo their fully trained workers away from them with higher pay and better bennies......because there's no evil rich guy at the top hogging all the profits, right?

Open up a McDowells instead of pestering McDonalds. Open up a Worldmart, instead of leeching off of Walmart. Open up a Hammer & Sicklebucks instead of forcing union onto Starbucks

Unions exist to help employees get fair treatment.

How does opening competition make fair treatment at the original employer?

[merh]

More Layoffs Coming Tuesday at Warner Bros. Discovery
Sources say Channing Dungey’s Warner Bros. TV Group will be among those impacted.


BY LESLEY GOLDBERG

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OCTOBER 10, 2022 3:10PM

Another round of layoffs is coming Tuesday at Warner Bros. Discovery.

Sources tell The Hollywood Reporter that, as part of Warner Bros. Discovery CEO David Zaslav’s effort to find $3 billion in post-merger cost savings, that layoffs will impact several departments in the merged companies. Among those expected to be impacted are Channing Dungey’s Warner Bros. Television Group (which includes scripted, unscripted and alternative studios); possibly DC Comics, Cartoon Network, Adult Swim and other units.

Reps for Warner Bros. Discovery and WBTV declined comment.TV

News that additional layoffs are coming is not necessarily new information, though the Tuesday timing is. A wave of layoffs hit Casey Bloys’ HBO Max and HBO teams in August with an estimated 70 staffers let go as part of a larger restructuring.

All facets of the merged WBD are being examined as Zaslav looks to save billions in staff redundancies and other areas. Sources tell THR that lower-level executives may be the focus of the layoffs at WBTV. Other departments, like ad sales, are rumored to be looking to cut costs by 20 percent-30 percent through a combination of layoffs, travel and expense savings and supplier cuts.

The Warner Bros. film group is likely not going to be impacted as part of Tuesday’s layoffs as its new executive regime needs time to acclimate.

Additional layoffs at other WBD divisions are expected.

HBO Max and Discovery+ will be merged into one service next year. Executives are currently debating a new name for the service as sources say much of the discussion is if the HBO name remains part of it or if a more broad name for the service would work better.

THR will have more details on the cutbacks Tuesday.

Because everything should be reality tv?

[abbey1227]

Oct 11, 2022 13:26:40 GMT merh said:

Oct 11, 2022 9:13:31 GMT abbey1227 said:

You're completely ignoring my point........ on purpose?

Unions can spend their money donating to politicians........OR they could simply start opening up businesses of their own. But they don't do that. Because that would require taking the  risk and responsibility onto themselves. They'd actually have to work harder and compete against others. They'd likely fail most of the time.

If Starbucks is so horrible in their treatment, then any Union should be able to woo their fully trained workers away from them with higher pay and better bennies......because there's no evil rich guy at the top hogging all the profits, right?

Open up a McDowells instead of pestering McDonalds. Open up a Worldmart, instead of leeching off of Walmart. Open up a Hammer & Sicklebucks instead of forcing union onto Starbucks

Unions exist to help employees get fair treatment.

How does opening competition make fair treatment at the original employer?

Easy, it makes all the employees at the original place wanna work at the new spot that offers better pay and treatment.

Once Ford started paying double the rate to his workers, how many experienced workers do you think came from other automakers over to his shop?

See? No need for Govt intervention. Besides, the Govt already has all sorts of rules/regulations already in place to protect the workers. What more do you need?

[abbey1227]

Oct 11, 2022 13:27:56 GMT merh said:

More Layoffs Coming Tuesday at Warner Bros. Discovery
Sources say Channing Dungey’s Warner Bros. TV Group will be among those impacted.


BY LESLEY GOLDBERG

Plus Icon
OCTOBER 10, 2022 3:10PM

Another round of layoffs is coming Tuesday at Warner Bros. Discovery.

Sources tell The Hollywood Reporter that, as part of Warner Bros. Discovery CEO David Zaslav’s effort to find $3 billion in post-merger cost savings, that layoffs will impact several departments in the merged companies. Among those expected to be impacted are Channing Dungey’s Warner Bros. Television Group (which includes scripted, unscripted and alternative studios); possibly DC Comics, Cartoon Network, Adult Swim and other units.

Reps for Warner Bros. Discovery and WBTV declined comment.TV

News that additional layoffs are coming is not necessarily new information, though the Tuesday timing is. A wave of layoffs hit Casey Bloys’ HBO Max and HBO teams in August with an estimated 70 staffers let go as part of a larger restructuring.

All facets of the merged WBD are being examined as Zaslav looks to save billions in staff redundancies and other areas. Sources tell THR that lower-level executives may be the focus of the layoffs at WBTV. Other departments, like ad sales, are rumored to be looking to cut costs by 20 percent-30 percent through a combination of layoffs, travel and expense savings and supplier cuts.

The Warner Bros. film group is likely not going to be impacted as part of Tuesday’s layoffs as its new executive regime needs time to acclimate.

Additional layoffs at other WBD divisions are expected.

HBO Max and Discovery+ will be merged into one service next year. Executives are currently debating a new name for the service as sources say much of the discussion is if the HBO name remains part of it or if a more broad name for the service would work better.

THR will have more details on the cutbacks Tuesday.

Because everything should be reality tv?

it's been some of the absolute worst TV ever created.

I think it's starting to surpass WWE in it's scripted nonsense

[merh]

We no longer work to live, we simply work to survive.



As Paul Williams wrote
"Working so hard to be somebody special
Not working g just to survive
But you're working so hard that you don't even know you're alive."

But now people are working so hard to survive they have no time to live.

[abbey1227]

Oct 11, 2022 18:02:58 GMT merh said:

We no longer work to live, we simply work to survive.



As Paul Williams wrote
"Working so hard to be somebody special
Not working g just to survive
But you're working so hard that you don't even know you're alive."

But now people are working so hard to survive they have no time to live.

Wasn't that song written more than 20 years ago?

How about 16 Tons?  

[Prometheus]

Oct 12, 2022 1:12:54 GMT abbey1227 said:

Oct 11, 2022 18:02:58 GMT merh said:

We no longer work to live, we simply work to survive.



As Paul Williams wrote
"Working so hard to be somebody special
Not working g just to survive
But you're working so hard that you don't even know you're alive."

But now people are working so hard to survive they have no time to live.

Wasn't that song written more than 20 years ago?

How about 16 Tons?  

And heeeeeeere's Horace!

[abbey1227]

Oct 12, 2022 2:27:58 GMT Prometheus said:

Oct 12, 2022 1:12:54 GMT abbey1227 said:

Wasn't that song written more than 20 years ago?

How about 16 Tons?  

And heeeeeeere's Horace!

I guess Big City politicians didn't deliver on their promises      

[Prometheus]

Oct 12, 2022 2:37:21 GMT abbey1227 said:

Oct 12, 2022 2:27:58 GMT Prometheus said:

And heeeeeeere's Horace!

I guess Big City politicians didn't deliver on their promises      

As Elgin doubles down!

[merh]

Oct 11, 2022 18:02:58 GMT merh said:

We no longer work to live, we simply work to survive.



As Paul Williams wrote
"Working so hard to be somebody special
Not working g just to survive
But you're working so hard that you don't even know you're alive."

But now people are working so hard to survive they have no time to live.

Phantom of the paradise came out around 1973.

Sixteen Tons" is a song written by Merle Travis about a coal miner, based on life in the mines of Muhlenberg County, Kentucky. Travis first recorded the song at the Radio Recorders Studio B in Hollywood, California, on August 8, 1946. Cliffie Stone played bass on the recording. It was first released in July 1947 by Capitol on Travis's album Folk Songs of the Hills. The song became a gold record.

Or are you saying the fact things have stayed the same or gotten worse makes it OK?

The line "another day older and deeper in debt" from the chorus came from a letter written by Travis's brother John. This and the line "I owe my soul to the company store" are a reference to the truck system and to debt bondage. Under this scrip system, workers were not paid cash; rather they were paid with non-transferable credit vouchers that could be exchanged only for goods sold at the company store. This made it impossible for workers to store up cash savings. Workers also usually lived in company-owned dormitories or houses, the rent for which was automatically deducted from their pay. In the United States the truck system and associated debt bondage persisted until the strikes of the newly formed United Mine Workers and affiliated unions forced an end to such practices.

UNIONS DID THAT?!
OHMY GOD!!!
EVERYONE KNOWS UNIONS ARE EVIL!!!

[merh]

Doctors, for the past 2 years: Long-covid / Post-Covid is going to leave tens of thousands of people with severe disabilities and longterm illness

News media: people aren't going back to work!!! Who could have predicted this?!?

[abbey1227]

Oct 12, 2022 12:36:36 GMT merh said:

Or are you saying the fact things have stayed the same or gotten worse makes it OK?

The line "another day older and deeper in debt" from the chorus came from a letter written by Travis's brother John. This and the line "I owe my soul to the company store" are a reference to the truck system and to debt bondage. Under this scrip system, workers were not paid cash; rather they were paid with non-transferable credit vouchers that could be exchanged only for goods sold at the company store. This made it impossible for workers to store up cash savings. Workers also usually lived in company-owned dormitories or houses, the rent for which was automatically deducted from their pay. In the United States the truck system and associated debt bondage persisted until the strikes of the newly formed United Mine Workers and affiliated unions forced an end to such practices.

UNIONS DID THAT?!
OHMY GOD!!!
EVERYONE KNOWS UNIONS ARE EVIL!!!

I have never denied the good unions did in their early days.

But like so many things that start out with great intentions, people being involved mixed with more power almost always leads to abuses and corruption.

Didn't the Kennedys go after Hoffa & Friends?

And as I've pointed out before, my opinion that working at McDonalds today is a heap load easier than working in a coal mine at the turn of the previous century.

[merh]

Oct 11, 2022 14:07:31 GMT abbey1227 said:

Oct 11, 2022 13:26:40 GMT merh said:

Unions exist to help employees get fair treatment.

How does opening competition make fair treatment at the original employer?

Easy, it makes all the employees at the original place wanna work at the new spot that offers better pay and treatment.

Once Ford started paying double the rate to his workers, how many experienced workers do you think came from other automakers over to his shop?

See? No need for Govt intervention. Besides, the Govt already has all sorts of rules/regulations already in place to protect the workers. What more do you need?

But there are only so many jobs at the new place so the others can just go to hell?

[merh]

Oct 12, 2022 12:45:55 GMT abbey1227 said:

Oct 12, 2022 12:36:36 GMT merh said:

Or are you saying the fact things have stayed the same or gotten worse makes it OK?


UNIONS DID THAT?!
OHMY GOD!!!
EVERYONE KNOWS UNIONS ARE EVIL!!!

I have never denied the good unions did in their early days.

But like so many things that start out with great intentions, people being involved mixed with more power almost always leads to abuses and corruption.

Didn't the Kennedys go after Hoffa & Friends?

And as I've pointed out before, my opinion that working at McDonalds today is a heap load easier than working in a coal mine at the turn of the previous century.

One bad apple spoils the whole bushel?