We Have No Bananas Today

[abbey1227]

Oct 12, 2022 12:51:15 GMT merh said:

Oct 11, 2022 14:07:31 GMT abbey1227 said:

Easy, it makes all the employees at the original place wanna work at the new spot that offers better pay and treatment.

Once Ford started paying double the rate to his workers, how many experienced workers do you think came from other automakers over to his shop?

See? No need for Govt intervention. Besides, the Govt already has all sorts of rules/regulations already in place to protect the workers. What more do you need?

But there are only so many jobs at the new place so the others can just go to hell?

But the best employees rise to the top

WHY in the world would you want all the workers when many of them are poor workers?

[abbey1227]

Oct 12, 2022 12:52:23 GMT merh said:

Oct 12, 2022 12:45:55 GMT abbey1227 said:

I have never denied the good unions did in their early days.

But like so many things that start out with great intentions, people being involved mixed with more power almost always leads to abuses and corruption.

Didn't the Kennedys go after Hoffa & Friends?

And as I've pointed out before, my opinion that working at McDonalds today is a heap load easier than working in a coal mine at the turn of the previous century.

One bad apple spoils the whole bushel?

do you remember the scene from Big when Josh first starts working? And Jon Lovitzs tells him "Hey! Slow down!!" Union mentality permeates many workplaces.

[merh]

Oct 12, 2022 13:01:52 GMT abbey1227 said:

Oct 12, 2022 12:52:23 GMT merh said:

One bad apple spoils the whole bushel?

do you remember the scene from Big when Josh first starts working? And Jon Lovitzs tells him "Hey! Slow down!!" Union mentality permeates many workplaces.

I've seen that mentality on many non union jobs.

The laundry wasn't union.
It was hot minimum wage work.
The boss bitched at me for being slow daily. Speed up! He can do it faster!
The other gal told me days I was out sick he bitched they would never keep up, that he hoped I got better quickly.
So much for him being so much faster than me.

[merh]

Oct 12, 2022 12:59:41 GMT abbey1227 said:

Oct 12, 2022 12:51:15 GMT merh said:

But there are only so many jobs at the new place so the others can just go to hell?

But the best employees rise to the top

WHY in the world would you want all the workers when many of them are poor workers?

So judgemental, aren't you?

[merh]

The elder Ford founded the Ford Paint and Varnish Company in 1929 just before the Great Depression. After the Depression hit, Ford asked his employees to work for $5/week and likewise paid himself the same salary until all could be paid more.

Saw Amsterdam
Pretty good.
You would hate it

The story is based on the Business Plot, a 1933 political conspiracy in the United States, and follows three friends—a doctor, a nurse, and a lawyer—who are caught in the mysterious murder of a retired U.S. General. Filmed in Los Angeles from January to March 2021, it is Russell's first film since Joy (2015). Amsterdam received mixed reviews from critics, most of whom praised the production design and the performances of the cast, but criticized Russell's screenplay and direction. It was also a box office bomb, with estimated losses for the studio reaching $97 million.

The Business Plot (also called the Wall Street Putsch and The White House Putsch) was an alleged political conspiracy in 1933 in the United States to overthrow the government of President Franklin D. Roosevelt and install a dictator. Retired Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler asserted that wealthy businessmen were plotting to create a fascist veterans' organization with Butler as its leader and use it in a coup d'état to overthrow Roosevelt. In 1934, Butler testified under oath before the United States House of Representatives Special Committee on Un-American Activities (the "McCormack–Dickstein Committee") on these revelations. Although no one was prosecuted, the congressional committee final report said, "there is no question that these attempts were discussed, were planned, and might have been placed in execution when and if the financial backers deemed it expedient."

Early in the committee's gathering of testimony most major news media dismissed the plot, with a New York Times editorial characterizing it as a "gigantic hoax". When the committee's final report was released, the Times said the committee "purported to report that a two-month investigation had convinced it that General Butler's story of a Fascist march on Washington was alarmingly true" and "... also alleged that definite proof had been found that the much publicized Fascist march on Washington, which was to have been led by Major Gen. Smedley D. Butler, retired, according to testimony at a hearing, was actually contemplated". The individuals involved all denied the existence of a plot.

While historians have questioned whether or not a coup was actually close to execution, most agree that some sort of "wild scheme" was contemplated and discussed.

[abbey1227]

Oct 12, 2022 19:58:28 GMT merh said:

Oct 12, 2022 13:01:52 GMT abbey1227 said:

do you remember the scene from Big when Josh first starts working? And Jon Lovitzs tells him "Hey! Slow down!!" Union mentality permeates many workplaces.

I've seen that mentality on many non union jobs.

The laundry wasn't union.
It was hot minimum wage work.
The boss bitched at me for being slow daily. Speed up! He can do it faster!
The other gal told me days I was out sick he bitched they would never keep up, that he hoped I got better quickly.
So much for him being so much faster than me.

\The biggest difference being a regular job, non-union........and you'd get fired for pushing that crap too far.

So he was giving the same treatment to all. You just happened to be a better worker........and he didn't wanna share that with you.    It's good to know you're more valuable.

[abbey1227]

Oct 12, 2022 19:58:55 GMT merh said:

Oct 12, 2022 12:59:41 GMT abbey1227 said:

But the best employees rise to the top

WHY in the world would you want all the workers when many of them are poor workers?

So judgemental, aren't you?

What's so judgemental about it, merh?  If all jobs were more like piecemeal, you'd get paid by HOW productive you are. More productive would get more money and less productive would get less. I got no problem with that.

It's directly relatable to sales and profits.

My previous employer loved me because I cranked out work much more than others. I enjoyed it and was very efficient. I likely kept the store open an extra year or so just by saving him money. He could have just as easily shut it down for a steady decrease in business. So it was a Win-Win for the both of us.

[merh]

Oct 13, 2022 13:33:06 GMT abbey1227 said:

Oct 12, 2022 19:58:55 GMT merh said:

So judgemental, aren't you?

What's so judgemental about it, merh?  If all jobs were more like piecemeal, you'd get paid by HOW productive you are. More productive would get more money and less productive would get less. I got no problem with that.

It's directly relatable to sales and profits.

My previous employer loved me because I cranked out work much more than others. I enjoyed it and was very efficient. I likely kept the store open an extra year or so just by saving him money. He could have just as easily shut it down for a steady decrease in business. So it was a Win-Win for the both of us.

Because one person should be able to do the work of 1 person.

Employers have come to expect way more.

Remember the 50s?
Dad worked his shift, came home to dinner on the table because he had a job that paid enough to support the family?

What happened?

[abbey1227]

Oct 13, 2022 16:06:17 GMT merh said:

Oct 13, 2022 13:33:06 GMT abbey1227 said:

What's so judgemental about it, merh?  If all jobs were more like piecemeal, you'd get paid by HOW productive you are. More productive would get more money and less productive would get less. I got no problem with that.

It's directly relatable to sales and profits.

My previous employer loved me because I cranked out work much more than others. I enjoyed it and was very efficient. I likely kept the store open an extra year or so just by saving him money. He could have just as easily shut it down for a steady decrease in business. So it was a Win-Win for the both of us.

Because one person should be able to do the work of 1 person.

Employers have come to expect way more.

Remember the 50s?
Dad worked his shift, came home to dinner on the table because he had a job that paid enough to support the family?

What happened?

1 person may just be that much better than the next 1 person. That's a fact, right?

That's why it's the workers responsibility to protect themselves from being abused. Pace yourself if you feel pressured. Maybe not slow to the union pace, but don't kill yourself over a job.

We rebuilt the world since almost total destruction outside the US. That's what happened. We can't pretend we're the supplier to the world anymore. And because of that, we don't have the profit margins to work with. We can't even handle the wage differences between countries

[merh]

Can't get ready for tomorrow?

[merh]

Oct 14, 2022 1:21:26 GMT abbey1227 said:

Oct 13, 2022 16:06:17 GMT merh said:

Because one person should be able to do the work of 1 person.

Employers have come to expect way more.

Remember the 50s?
Dad worked his shift, came home to dinner on the table because he had a job that paid enough to support the family?

What happened?

1 person may just be that much better than the next 1 person. That's a fact, right?

That's why it's the workers responsibility to protect themselves from being abused. Pace yourself if you feel pressured. Maybe not slow to the union pace, but don't kill yourself over a job.

We rebuilt the world since almost total destruction outside the US. That's what happened. We can't pretend we're the supplier to the world anymore. And because of that, we don't have the profit margins to work with. We can't even handle the wage differences between countries

How does that work out?

Rowing a boat, everyone else is on pace but you are working doubletime?

[merh]

My work didn't want us eating at our desks(so they would know when we were or weren't working

[abbey1227]

Oct 16, 2022 11:43:36 GMT merh said:

Oct 14, 2022 1:21:26 GMT abbey1227 said:

1 person may just be that much better than the next 1 person. That's a fact, right?

That's why it's the workers responsibility to protect themselves from being abused. Pace yourself if you feel pressured. Maybe not slow to the union pace, but don't kill yourself over a job.

We rebuilt the world since almost total destruction outside the US. That's what happened. We can't pretend we're the supplier to the world anymore. And because of that, we don't have the profit margins to work with. We can't even handle the wage differences between countries

How does that work out?

Rowing a boat, everyone else is on pace but you are working doubletime?

As I've said, if it's a piecemeal type of work......you get paid by your production/output.

If it's the other kind of work, you work at the pace that's comfortable for you........if they decide to fire you because you're just not productive enough, maybe you're just not cut out for that line of work? If you take twice to three times as long to complete the same task, do you feel you deserve the same pay as others?

I can't think of too many jobs where you'd be caught totally unaware of the requirements before working the job.   

[abbey1227]

Oct 16, 2022 11:47:29 GMT merh said:

My work didn't want us eating at our desks(so they would know when we were or weren't working

I'd love to ask this douchenozzle "What time is lunch exactly?"  and is everyone allowed to take it at the same time?

[merh]

Oct 16, 2022 11:53:28 GMT abbey1227 said:

Oct 16, 2022 11:47:29 GMT merh said:

My work didn't want us eating at our desks(so they would know when we were or weren't working

I'd love to ask this douchenozzle "What time is lunch exactly?"  and is everyone allowed to take it at the same time?

The general consensus in the comments is the CEO didn't say anything. The manager was trying to impress his boss. The CEO has to understand it is lunch time unless he specifically said all hands to be there, delay lunch which sounds a bit off since he's obviously coming at lunch time

[abbey1227]

Oct 16, 2022 17:12:32 GMT merh said:

Oct 16, 2022 11:53:28 GMT abbey1227 said:

I'd love to ask this douchenozzle "What time is lunch exactly?"  and is everyone allowed to take it at the same time?

The general consensus in the comments is the CEO didn't say anything. The manager was trying to impress his boss. The CEO has to understand it is lunch time unless he specifically said all hands to be there, delay lunch which sounds a bit off since he's obviously coming at lunch time

Yep, that'd be like showing up 10 minutes after Closing and wondering why people didn't stick around to put in extra hours?

[merh]

Ex-Anchor Sandra Maas Calls KUSI’s Failed Motion a ‘Smear’ as Trial Looms

by Ken Stone
18 hours ago

KUSI and its former news anchor Sandra Maas are headed for a potentially nasty December trial in her pay-equity and discrimination lawsuit in the wake of a judge’s ruling Monday.


Judge Ronald Frazier ruling on KUSI summary judgment motions. (PDF)
Judge Ronald Frazier ruling on KUSI summary judgment motions. (PDF)
Judge Ronald Frazier in downtown Superior Court confirmed his tentative ruling — rejecting McKinnon Broadcasting Co.’s effort to have the case killed via summary judgment.

Minutes after a hearing Friday, Maas was asked whether KUSI’s motion was an attempt to smear her.

“Yes,” Maas told a reporter as she and her lawyers walked east on Broadway in front of the Hall of Justice.

On Monday, Maas attorney Josh Pang agreed, saying KUSI will make similar attacks at what he expects to be a two-week trial
“We’ll address them at trial,” he said.

KUSI’s summary judgment motion in July depicted Maas as disgruntled and derelict in the years before she left the station in June 2019 — her contract not renewed. During that time, she had learned she was being paid as much as $80,000 a year less than her prime-time co-anchor, Allen Denton.

Her July 2019 lawsuit against MBC, the operator of KUSI News, also alleged age and gender discrimination and illegal retaliation.

On Monday, Judge Frazier rejected MBC’s arguments that Maas, 59, couldn’t use Denton’s $250,000-a-year final salary alone for determining a male “comparator.”

He said in his two-page ruling that Maas had a prima facie case that KUSI failed to provide equal pay. Frazier said the same about her claims she was retaliated against for seeking equal pay.

[abbey1227]

Oct 19, 2022 0:45:35 GMT merh said:

Ex-Anchor Sandra Maas Calls KUSI’s Failed Motion a ‘Smear’ as Trial Looms


KUSI’s summary judgment motion in July depicted Maas as disgruntled and derelict in the years before she left the station in June 2019 — her contract not renewed. During that time, she had learned she was being paid as much as $80,000 a year less than her prime-time co-anchor, Allen Denton.

She signed a contract. I know they don't mean anything to anyone anymore. 

And if she's such the hot item, and so in demand, why wasn't she immediately signed by any other stations to a long term, higher contract? 

[merh]

Oct 19, 2022 3:33:17 GMT abbey1227 said:

Oct 19, 2022 0:45:35 GMT merh said:

She signed a contract. I know they don't mean anything to anyone anymore. 

And if she's such the hot item, and so in demand, why wasn't she immediately signed by any other stations to a long term, higher contract? 

So screw equal pay for equal work?
KUSI is a local station. I think they were UPN when that network tried to fly in the late 90s.

Wikipedia 

In 2019, KUSI anchor Sandra Maas left the station and sued McKinnon for $10 million in an age and gender discrimination lawsuit. She alleged that she had begun seeking a raise in 2017 after learning that men with less seniority at the station made more money than her, and when she sought the same salary that her recently departed co-anchor, Allen Denton, was working—$70,000 more than her own—her contract was not renewed. Documents in the case also contain the allegation that, in the wake of the dispute, KUSI refused to cover an equal pay dispute involving the United States women's national soccer team. The case is scheduled to go to trial in December 2022

Sandra Maas (born January 13, 1963) is an American journalist, newscaster and women’s rights activist. She has worked in the San Diego, California area since 1990 and has been nominated for 13 regional Emmy awards

In 1986, Maas moved to NBC affiliate KSBY-TV in San Luis Obispo, California, where she co-anchored the 6 and 11 p.m. newscasts. Maas also served as the station's medical reporter at the start of the AIDS crisis, earning a Golden Mike Award for her on-air work. In 1990, Maas relocated to San Diego and CBS Affiliate KFMB-TV, where she co-anchored News 8 at 4pm with Mitch Duncan. In addition, she served as the station's medical reporter and worked for CBS Newspath as a national medical correspondent. During this time, Maas was also a regular fill-in on the Jeff and Jer Morning Show on Star 94.1. In 1993, she had a bit part in the CBS soap opera, The Young and the Restless, playing the role of nurse Sally Winslow. In 2001, Maas was part of a mass exodus that left KFMB-TV when it severed ties with the American Federation of Television and Radio Artists. She resigned after an unsuccessful contract renegotiation. In 2002, Maas was a freelance journalist for then-Fox affiliate XETV in San Diego. In 2004, Maas moved to KUSI-TV, serving first as a co-anchor on Good Morning San Diego and in 2006 adding host duties for the lifestyle show Inside San Diego with Andrea Naversen. In 2009, she became weeknight co-anchor of The KUSI News at 6 and 10pm with Allen Denton.

Maas has been mistress of ceremonies of the Ernst & Young Entrepreneur of the Year Awards since 1993. She also volunteers as Mistress of Ceremonies or moderator for several non-profit organization events. On June 25, 2019 Maas filed a lawsuit alleging discriminatory practices by KUSI-TV and station General Manager Mike McKinnon Jr. in particular. She claims she was abruptly terminated for attempting to open a dialogue about compensation

[abbey1227]

Oct 19, 2022 5:30:18 GMT merh said:

Oct 19, 2022 3:33:17 GMT abbey1227 said:

She signed a contract. I know they don't mean anything to anyone anymore. 

And if she's such the hot item, and so in demand, why wasn't she immediately signed by any other stations to a long term, higher contract? 

So screw equal pay for equal work?
KUSI is a local station. I think they were UPN when that network tried to fly in the late 90s.

Wikipedia 

In 2019, KUSI anchor Sandra Maas left the station and sued McKinnon for $10 million in an age and gender discrimination lawsuit. She alleged that she had begun seeking a raise in 2017 after learning that men with less seniority at the station made more money than her, and when she sought the same salary that her recently departed co-anchor, Allen Denton, was working—$70,000 more than her own—her contract was not renewed. Documents in the case also contain the allegation that, in the wake of the dispute, KUSI refused to cover an equal pay dispute involving the United States women's national soccer team. The case is scheduled to go to trial in December 2022

Sandra Maas (born January 13, 1963) is an American journalist, newscaster and women’s rights activist. She has worked in the San Diego, California area since 1990 and has been nominated for 13 regional Emmy awards

blah blah blah blah blah

So NOBODY else wanted her and was willing to pay her asking price. Boo hoo hoo