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Post by abbey1227 on Jul 20, 2021 2:58:07 GMT
Walls are protected now?
NBC News Built to keep Black from white: The story behind Detroit's 'Wailing Wall'Erin Einhorn and Olivia Lewis, BridgeDetroit Mon, July 19, 2021, 6:58 PM
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03/09/2016
Urban Blight: A few days ago, filmmaker Michael Moore tweeted, “Flint has voted for Dems for 84 straight yrs” and wanted to know, “What did it get us?” He’s actually on to something.
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Detroit last elected a Republican mayor in 1957. It is now the model of urban failure -- it’s recognized more for its poverty, crime, rot and bankruptcy than the great cars that it turned out into the early 1970s. It is the poorest big city in the nation, with almost 40% of the population living below the poverty line. The website Law Street actually ranks Detroit ahead of Flint as the country's most dangerous city. Either way, it’s clear that both cities have institutionalized crime problems.
Detroit is also a pit of political corruption. Just in recent years, one mayor, Kwame Kilpatrick, was convicted of corruption and sent to federal prison for 28 years, while building inspectors have been indicted on federal felony bribery charges and a former city council member was investigated in a bribery and kickback scandal.
Chicago’s last GOP mayor was elected in 1927. The nation’s third-largest city is home to some of the worst inner-city violence imaginable. More than 2,300 people were shot there last year, and nearly 400 lost their lives to homicides.
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Just guessing that things have not substantially improved in either city since 2016? ![[giveup]](//storage.proboards.com/7182076/images/FSYefibmKqtatIXMgHZg.gif)
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Post by abbey1227 on Jul 20, 2021 3:04:16 GMT
On a related note...... some people actually do make some positive changes. pridesource.com/article/a-gay-michigan-couple-are-flipping-homes-in-detroit-on-their-very-own-hgtv-show/
A Gay Michigan Couple Are Flipping Homes in Detroit on Their Very Own HGTV ShowBy Jason A. Michael|April 28th, 2021|Home FacebookTwitter It’s the newest show on the HGTV network and it’s filmed right here in Detroit. “Bargain Block” stars personal and professional partners Keith Bynum and Evan Thomas, transplants from Colorado, and follows the couple as they put a unique spin on the concept of house flipping. They buy boarded up and abandoned houses in neglected Detroit neighborhoods for as little as $1,000 and live in them while they invest their own money fixing them up and bringing them back to life. “We love taking on the absolute worst of the worst,” Bynum tells Pride Source. “The house that no one wants or believes in, that’s our jam.” Bynum, who shared he was disowned by his family when he came out, feels especially at home in Detroit’s land of misfit houses. He sees himself in the properties they rehab, he says: “I kind of personify the houses. I was down and beat up and even my family didn’t want me after I came out, but someone believed in me and I’m in such a better place now. The houses are the same. They just need someone to believe in them again.” Partners Keith Bynum and Evan Thomas tour a Detroit home that needs to be renovated, as seen on HGTV’s “Bargain Block.” Photo courtesy of HGTV. Bynum and Thomas had to believe in themselves, though, to move across country to an unfamiliar and misunderstood city. Bynum, an artist, and Thomas, who has a PhD in physics from the University of Colorado, met through Match.com. They moved to Detroit, sight unseen, in April 2017. “Neither of us had ever been to Michigan before we moved here,” says Bynum. “Detroit kind of has, you know, a little bit of a reputation, and so when we moved here, we were a little scared. But almost immediately we realized how amazing Detroit is, and how kind and loving.” It didn’t take long before Bynum and Thomas’s neighbors surrounding their first property befriended them — the same neighbors that, inevitably, became fans of their HGTV-worthy renovation work. “Every neighbor — and there have been a lot — we’ve met in the city has been kind and amazing,” Bynum says. “Never one time has so much as an eyebrow been raised, which was sort of shocking and not our experience in other parts of the country. A neighbor once asked if we were brothers, and I said, ‘No ma’am, he’s my partner‘ and she grabbed me and hugged me and said, ‘Good! No one tells me who I can love and no one better tell you.’ That just stuck with us. It was the most amazing answer.” And how did their Motor City makeovers attract the powers that be at HGTV and land them their own show? “The TV journey has been a long and winding road that started about four years ago,” says Thomas. “Back when we lived in Colorado, a friend asked Keith if he wanted to build a tiny house for a casting call she found online. Keith thought it sounded fun, so they ended up building one for an episode of ‘Tiny Paradise’ on HGTV. That process exposed Keith to a few production companies that followed Keith’s work for the next few years up until 2018 when a production company had us self-produce a ‘sizzle reel’ for HGTV. ................. |
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Post by Prometheus on Jul 20, 2021 3:06:19 GMT
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Post by abbey1227 on Jul 31, 2021 1:54:07 GMT
THAT has anything to do at all with the OP? |
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Post by Prometheus on Jul 31, 2021 3:26:42 GMT
Walls are protected now?
NBC News Built to keep Black from white: The story behind Detroit's 'Wailing Wall'Erin Einhorn and Olivia Lewis, BridgeDetroit Mon, July 19, 2021, 6:58 PM
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03/09/2016
Urban Blight: A few days ago, filmmaker Michael Moore tweeted, “Flint has voted for Dems for 84 straight yrs” and wanted to know, “What did it get us?” He’s actually on to something.
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Detroit last elected a Republican mayor in 1957. It is now the model of urban failure -- it’s recognized more for its poverty, crime, rot and bankruptcy than the great cars that it turned out into the early 1970s. It is the poorest big city in the nation, with almost 40% of the population living below the poverty line. The website Law Street actually ranks Detroit ahead of Flint as the country's most dangerous city. Either way, it’s clear that both cities have institutionalized crime problems.
Detroit is also a pit of political corruption. Just in recent years, one mayor, Kwame Kilpatrick, was convicted of corruption and sent to federal prison for 28 years, while building inspectors have been indicted on federal felony bribery charges and a former city council member was investigated in a bribery and kickback scandal.
Chicago’s last GOP mayor was elected in 1927. The nation’s third-largest city is home to some of the worst inner-city violence imaginable. More than 2,300 people were shot there last year, and nearly 400 lost their lives to homicides.
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Just guessing that things have not substantially improved in either city since 2016?
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Post by Prometheus on Jul 31, 2021 3:27:24 GMT
THAT has anything to do at all with the OP? Oh!
You didn't want to talk about corruption.
My bad.
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Post by abbey1227 on Jul 31, 2021 12:08:16 GMT
THAT has anything to do at all with the OP? Oh!
You didn't want to talk about corruption.
My bad.
Corruption? I thought this thread was simply started out pointing out a rather divisive wall that got built........and has yet to be torn down all these years later.
What, with all of the statues being torn down and buildings set alight........ how do you miss something about as glaring as separate fountains?
You wanna talk about corruption in Govt, we can do that all day every day
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Post by Prometheus on Jul 31, 2021 16:22:29 GMT
Oh!
You didn't want to talk about corruption.
My bad.
Corruption? I thought this thread was simply started out pointing out a rather divisive wall that got built........and has yet to be torn down all these years later.
What, with all of the statues being torn down and buildings set alight........ how do you miss something about as glaring as separate fountains?
You wanna talk about corruption in Govt, we can do that all day every day
Sorry. Your OP talked a bit about corruption from "libs" so I thought I'd point out that "cons" in Detroit are also corrupt.
Sorry to fuck up your AGENDA.
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Post by abbey1227 on Aug 1, 2021 0:56:34 GMT
Sorry. Your OP talked a bit about corruption from "libs" so I thought I'd point out that "cons" in Detroit are also corrupt.
Sorry to fuck up your AGENDA.
so it's a 50/50 kinda thing there? has been for decades?
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Post by Prometheus on Aug 1, 2021 1:17:35 GMT
Sorry. Your OP talked a bit about corruption from "libs" so I thought I'd point out that "cons" in Detroit are also corrupt.
Sorry to fuck up your AGENDA.
so it's a 50/50 kinda thing there? has been for decades?
Corruption in politics? Yeah.
Corruption in Detroit specifically? Only if they have politicians.
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Post by abbey1227 on Aug 1, 2021 1:22:16 GMT
so it's a 50/50 kinda thing there? has been for decades?
Corruption in politics? Yeah.
Corruption in Detroit specifically? Only if they have politicians.
I mentioned a TV series with a gay couple rehabbing a buncha homes there.....but that's just 2 guys.
I had hoped Amazon/Bezos would have picked that area for a major investment instead of trying to get into AOC's neighborhood.
He could have picked up entire neighborhoods for a song, remodeled it all into a very decent environment and given his work force a better outlook for the future.
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Post by Prometheus on Aug 1, 2021 1:32:32 GMT
Corruption in politics? Yeah.
Corruption in Detroit specifically? Only if they have politicians.
I mentioned a TV series with a gay couple rehabbing a buncha homes there.....but that's just 2 guys.
I had hoped Amazon/Bezos would have picked that area for a major investment instead of trying to get into AOC's neighborhood.
He could have picked up entire neighborhoods for a song, remodeled it all into a very decent environment and given his work force a better outlook for the future.
Gentrification: kick out all the poor minorities unless they agree to work for you... after you've already hired all the poor white folks and made them supervisors....
Yeah. Black people just loooooove gentrification.
I get your point, Abs. I do, but gentrification does is move the problems elsewhere. It rarely solves a damn thing.
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Post by abbey1227 on Aug 1, 2021 1:38:42 GMT
Gentrification: kick out all the poor minorities unless they agree to work for you... after you've already hired all the poor white folks and made them supervisors....
Yeah. Black people just loooooove gentrification.
I get your point, Abs. I do, but gentrification does is move the problems elsewhere. It rarely solves a damn thing.
But what does? Seriously.........how do you ever get Americans (of all hues) to stop being such self-sabotaging types of humans?
Over the last few years, I've observed again and again regular everyday people just throwing their potential and lives away. And those people were primarily white people, not that it makes a difference to me. It's the content of their character, not the color of their skin.
Maybe you'd have a different take if you had been HERE in the US for the last several years?
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Post by Prometheus on Aug 1, 2021 10:13:20 GMT
Gentrification: kick out all the poor minorities unless they agree to work for you... after you've already hired all the poor white folks and made them supervisors....
Yeah. Black people just loooooove gentrification.
I get your point, Abs. I do, but gentrification does is move the problems elsewhere. It rarely solves a damn thing.
But what does? Seriously.........how do you ever get Americans (of all hues) to stop being such self-sabotaging types of humans?
Over the last few years, I've observed again and again regular everyday people just throwing their potential and lives away. And those people were primarily white people, not that it makes a difference to me. It's the content of their character, not the color of their skin.
Maybe you'd have a different take if you had been HERE in the US for the last several years?
1. Give them a good education, an equal chance at getting a good job, and the ability to live where they want without fear of discrimination
2.
3. Doubtful. I'd still be reading the same news... on the newspapers I would have to use as blankets
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Post by abbey1227 on Aug 1, 2021 12:14:01 GMT
1. Give them a good education, an equal chance at getting a good job, and the ability to live where they want without fear of discrimination
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3. Doubtful. I'd still be reading the same news... on the newspapers I would have to use as blankets
1. I'd like to point out the millions of Americans that have been given a so called 'good education'......and many of them are not even using it to further their careers.......as well as drowning in debt.
2. Are you never around people like that? Is China that different that it's nothing but ambitious and hard working types?
3. Say wha? You wouldn't be partaking in the taxpayer provided windfall that is the current educational system? Randi Weingarten has really delivered for her union comrades.
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Post by mrright on Aug 1, 2021 15:20:52 GMT
But what does? Seriously.........how do you ever get Americans (of all hues) to stop being such self-sabotaging types of humans?
Over the last few years, I've observed again and again regular everyday people just throwing their potential and lives away. And those people were primarily white people, not that it makes a difference to me. It's the content of their character, not the color of their skin.
Maybe you'd have a different take if you had been HERE in the US for the last several years?
1. Give them a good education, an equal chance at getting a good job, and the ability to live where they want without fear of discrimination
2.
3. Doubtful. I'd still be reading the same news... on the newspapers I would have to use as blankets
lol.. fear of discrimination. it aint over color |
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Post by Prometheus on Aug 1, 2021 17:33:51 GMT
1. Give them a good education, an equal chance at getting a good job, and the ability to live where they want without fear of discrimination
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3. Doubtful. I'd still be reading the same news... on the newspapers I would have to use as blankets
1. I'd like to point out the millions of Americans that have been given a so called 'good education'......and many of them are not even using it to further their careers.......as well as drowning in debt.
2. Are you never around people like that? Is China that different that it's nothing but ambitious and hard working types?
3. Say wha? You wouldn't be partaking in the taxpayer provided windfall that is the current educational system? Randi Weingarten has really delivered for her union comrades.
1. Yup. That's that whole personal responsibility thing. 2. There are the "lying flat" crowd, but even they want to do their menial jobs well
3. I left because of the financial crisis. I was already on my way to becoming homeless.
PS I fucking hate unions
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Post by abbey1227 on Aug 1, 2021 19:14:23 GMT
1. Yup. That's that whole personal responsibility thing. 2. There are the "lying flat" crowd, but even they want to do their menial jobs well
3. I left because of the financial crisis. I was already on my way to becoming homeless.
PS I fucking hate unions
1. It is. (Though I'd like to see a lot of guidance counselors held to task for steering so many into that student debt all willy-nilly like)
2. Here in the US, too many only want to do their drugs and alcohol well.........while others pay for their existence. Does your local Govt hand out NARCAN for all? repeatedly?
3. I tend to think that even if it had come to that........you'd have used your brains and drive and picked yourself up no matter your location.
PS That's why I don't understand why we don't agree on many other things? or how you embrace so many union-esque notions? Co-Ops, I could understand.
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Post by Prometheus on Aug 2, 2021 4:38:16 GMT
1. Yup. That's that whole personal responsibility thing. 2. There are the "lying flat" crowd, but even they want to do their menial jobs well
3. I left because of the financial crisis. I was already on my way to becoming homeless.
PS I fucking hate unions
1. It is. (Though I'd like to see a lot of guidance counselors held to task for steering so many into that student debt all willy-nilly like)
2. Here in the US, too many only want to do their drugs and alcohol well.........while others pay for their existence. Does your local Govt hand out NARCAN for all? repeatedly?
3. I tend to think that even if it had come to that........you'd have used your brains and drive and picked yourself up no matter your location.
PS That's why I don't understand why we don't agree on many other things? or how you embrace so many union-esque notions? Co-Ops, I could understand.
1. I'd like to see an educational system where they don't feel they have to
2. You have mentioned NARCAN in several posts. All I know about it is that it's an effective treatment for opioid overdoses (thank you Ana de Armas). Other than that, I have no idea what you're on about.
3. At the time, I felt that I had no options based on my situation and circumstances. Could I have stayed and overcome the problems? Possibly. Did moving here solve the problems almost immediately despite engendering a few new ones? Absolutely.
4. Unions had their time and purpose... then just became "evil corporations" in their own right. That doesn't mean that all the problems are gone nor that the problems require a solution involving a public good.
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Post by abbey1227 on Aug 2, 2021 4:55:12 GMT
1. I'd like to see an educational system where they don't feel they have to
2. You have mentioned NARCAN in several posts. All I know about it is that it's an effective treatment for opioid overdoses (thank you Ana de Armas). Other than that, I have no idea what you're on about.
3. At the time, I felt that I had no options based on my situation and circumstances. Could I have stayed and overcome the problems? Possibly. Did moving here solve the problems almost immediately despite engendering a few new ones? Absolutely.
4. Unions had their time and purpose... then just became "evil corporations" in their own right. That doesn't mean that all the problems are gone nor that the problems require a solution involving a public good.
1. My libertarian buddy has said for years "When everyone has a college degree......a college degree will be worthless." The same thing pretty much already happened to the high school diploma. IIRC, you even posted something about many job openings requiring a college degree where it was never necessary in the past? When I think of my own work history....... I honestly feel the last year or two of high school could have been skipped and just getting me into the workplace earlier would have been a better use of resources. The same is true for millions of my fellow Americans......sad as that might be in reality for you to observe.
2. NARCAN does an almost miraculous job of reviving people on death's doorstep. Then they go right back to doing their drugs. Rinse/Repeat. And since it's 'free' they end up sticking the tax payers with the costs of $600-1,200 per poke. What a country!? Like many other 'services'........the worst among us have learned how to game the system and end up using up an inordinate amount of resources that would be much better spent/invested elsewhere. Meanwhile people with cancer or diabetes or a host of other legitimate ailments are still expected to pay for their prescriptions. (I know your response will be it should ALL be free......and you know what my opinion of that is, too)
3. And now you're at the mercy of a racist nationalistic and tyrannical Govt? I'm sure you'll adapt and be fine, though.
4. Agreed completely.
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