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Post by abbey1227 on Jun 8, 2021 8:29:39 GMT
An Amazon delivery driver was caught on camera repeatedly punching a 67-year-old woman during an argument in California, authorities sayZahra Tayeb Sun, June 6, 2021, 6:35 AM Footage shows a woman identified as an Amazon driver repeatedly striking another woman. KRON4/Twitter An Amazon driver was accused of punching a customer. She said she acted in self-defense. Authorities say video footage shows the worker beating the woman around her head, KTVU reported. The worker was arrested. Amazon told Insider she was no longer delivering packages for the company. Authorities say an Amazon delivery driver was caught on camera punching a 67-year-old customer during a dispute over a delayed package in California, KTVU Fox 2 reported. Footage shows a person identified as the driver striking the woman around her head. The incident, which took place in Castro Valley, was captured from several angles by a surveillance camera. The Amazon worker, Iztel Ramirez, 21, was arrested Thursday. She said she hit the woman in self-defense, according to KTVU Fox 2. The outlet reported that Doug Smith, the owner of the older woman's apartment building, said the fight began when she received a notification that a package had arrived. But when she went to the lobby to find it, the package wasn't there. The woman asked Ramirez of its whereabouts and was told she would receive it soon. After waiting for 15 more minutes, the woman was said to have questioned Ramirez again, kicking off a violent dispute. Smith was quoted as saying: "I believe the Amazon driver said something about 'your white privilege,' and my tenant said, 'You don't need to be a b— about it,' turned around and walked away." An Amazon representative told Insider in a statement: "This does not reflect the high standards we have for drivers who deliver our packages. We take these matters seriously and this individual is no longer delivering Amazon packages." The Alameda County Sheriff's Department said the woman might have suffered a broken nose and other visible injuries. Sheriff Ray Kelly was quoted by KTVU Fox 2 as saying: "We can't have our delivery drivers or people out there in the community attacking people, punching people in the face." Ramirez was arrested on suspicion of battery causing serious bodily injury and elder abuse, according to the outlet. Her bail has been set at $100,000.
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Post by Prometheus on Jun 8, 2021 17:00:50 GMT
Going to be pretty hard to prove "self-defense" with that video being available....
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Post by abbey1227 on Jun 9, 2021 1:01:54 GMT
Going to be pretty hard to prove "self-defense" with that video being available....
So there's nothing the elder could have verbally thrown out that would justify the physical reaction?
What if the races were somehow changed?
Seriously though......... I keep seeing these kind of attacks, often without any provocation, and it floors me how anyone decides attacking someone decades older than them is perfectly reasonable?
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Post by Prometheus on Jun 9, 2021 3:30:39 GMT
Going to be pretty hard to prove "self-defense" with that video being available....
So there's nothing the elder could have verbally thrown out that would justify the physical reaction?
What if the races were somehow changed?
Seriously though......... I keep seeing these kind of attacks, often without any provocation, and it floors me how anyone decides attacking someone decades older than them is perfectly reasonable?
1. If calling someone a bitch somehow rises to the level of being "assault" then turn out the lights.
2. Then we can be certain that calling someone a bitch would rise to the level of "assault."
3. I'm guessing that the attackers choose the elderly (or very young) because they are cowards who don't want to chance getting into a fight with anyone who might fight back and possibly even kick their ass. In the end - I'm also guessing - that the attackers see their victims as being representative of some "oppression" that they feel.
Maybe the attackers all attended lectures at Yale?
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Post by abbey1227 on Jun 9, 2021 5:33:17 GMT
1. If calling someone a bitch somehow rises to the level of being "assault" then turn out the lights.
2. Then we can be certain that calling someone a bitch would rise to the level of "assault."
3. I'm guessing that the attackers choose the elderly (or very young) because they are cowards who don't want to chance getting into a fight with anyone who might fight back and possibly even kick their ass. In the end - I'm also guessing - that the attackers see their victims as being representative of some "oppression" that they feel.
Maybe the attackers all attended lectures at Yale?
You have the ability to be so funny. 
And that's a great point about how predators normally choose their prey........ weaker victims are normally preferred
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Post by Prometheus on Jun 9, 2021 11:19:08 GMT
1. If calling someone a bitch somehow rises to the level of being "assault" then turn out the lights.
2. Then we can be certain that calling someone a bitch would rise to the level of "assault."
3. I'm guessing that the attackers choose the elderly (or very young) because they are cowards who don't want to chance getting into a fight with anyone who might fight back and possibly even kick their ass. In the end - I'm also guessing - that the attackers see their victims as being representative of some "oppression" that they feel.
Maybe the attackers all attended lectures at Yale?
You have the ability to be so funny.
And that's a great point about how predators normally choose their prey........ weaker victims are normally preferred
It's not me. It's the world and I'm just pointing it out. |
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Post by abbey1227 on Jun 9, 2021 11:41:39 GMT
You have the ability to be so funny.
And that's a great point about how predators normally choose their prey........ weaker victims are normally preferred
It's not me. It's the world and I'm just pointing it out.
So why am I the arsehole for just doing the same thing?
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Post by Prometheus on Jun 9, 2021 11:45:39 GMT
It's not me. It's the world and I'm just pointing it out.
So why am I the arsehole for just doing the same thing?
Because you picked a side |
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Post by abbey1227 on Jun 9, 2021 11:52:21 GMT
So why am I the arsehole for just doing the same thing?
Because you picked a side
The wrong side  |
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Post by Prometheus on Jun 9, 2021 12:01:23 GMT
Because you picked a side
The wrong side Yup.
Don't feel bad.
Most humans pick the wrong side.
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Post by abbey1227 on Jun 9, 2021 12:06:11 GMT
The wrong side Yup.
Don't feel bad.
Most humans pick the wrong side.
I don't feel bad at all. I choose what I view as the lesser of two evils. I realize that you're more like my brother in law that now refuses to do that.
IF you were forced to pick between just the two....... I'm betting we both know how the other votes. Christ, I went with Trump in 2016 because I couldn't stand Hillary. What does that say?
It's not my fault he shocked the shit outta me and delivered better than all previous presidents in my lifetime.
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Post by Prometheus on Jun 10, 2021 1:30:20 GMT
Yup.
Don't feel bad.
Most humans pick the wrong side.
I don't feel bad at all. I choose what I view as the lesser of two evils. I realize that you're more like my brother in law that now refuses to do that.
IF you were forced to pick between just the two....... I'm betting we both know how the other votes. Christ, I went with Trump in 2016 because I couldn't stand Hillary. What does that say?
It's not my fault he shocked the shit outta me and delivered better than all previous presidents in my lifetime.
1. I hate that "two evils" always seem to be the choice
2. I'd be in jail or in the ground if someone tried to force me to choose one of "two evils."
3. Based on that comment, if you ever run for POTUS, you can rest assured that I won't be voting for you
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Post by abbey1227 on Jun 10, 2021 2:18:03 GMT
1. I hate that "two evils" always seem to be the choice
2. I'd be in jail or in the ground if someone tried to force me to choose one of "two evils."
3. Based on that comment, if you ever run for POTUS, you can rest assured that I won't be voting for you
You never know how evil they'll be until after you've given them the power
I might end up being completely pure and good.  |
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Post by Prometheus on Jun 10, 2021 2:30:50 GMT
1. I hate that "two evils" always seem to be the choice
2. I'd be in jail or in the ground if someone tried to force me to choose one of "two evils."
3. Based on that comment, if you ever run for POTUS, you can rest assured that I won't be voting for you
You never know how evil they'll be until after you've given them the power
I might end up being completely pure and good. If you can say that you're voting for the lesser of two evils then the determination has already been made and the end result probably won't change. |
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Post by abbey1227 on Jun 10, 2021 2:32:42 GMT
You never know how evil they'll be until after you've given them the power
I might end up being completely pure and good. If you can say that you're voting for the lesser of two evils then the determination has already been made and the end result probably won't change.
I think Bernie Sanders might turn into one of the most evil ever if given the power he sought
Stalin, Mao and others have kinda set the bar.
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Post by Prometheus on Jun 10, 2021 2:55:39 GMT
If you can say that you're voting for the lesser of two evils then the determination has already been made and the end result probably won't change.
I think Bernie Sanders might turn into one of the most evil ever if given the power he sought
Stalin, Mao and others have kinda set the bar.
1. I don't think you have to worry about Bernie. AOC on the other hand....
2. Stalin and Mao were elected?
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Post by abbey1227 on Jun 10, 2021 13:18:06 GMT
1. I don't think you have to worry about Bernie. AOC on the other hand....
2. Stalin and Mao were elected?
1. She's a real piece of work.......and indicative of where many American youth's brains are at. Scary
2. I'm sure you can provide plenty of people that were elected that behaved similarly. Some in South America, Europe, Africa, etc I think the US is becoming a great example of how voting doesn't guarantee actual representation and if the absolute truth were known about all the crap they're getting up to, between the politicians and the bureaucrats & agencies, it's becoming quite the shyte-show.
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Post by Prometheus on Jun 11, 2021 2:23:24 GMT
1. I don't think you have to worry about Bernie. AOC on the other hand....
2. Stalin and Mao were elected?
1. She's a real piece of work.......and indicative of where many American youth's brains are at. Scary
2. I'm sure you can provide plenty of people that were elected that behaved similarly. Some in South America, Europe, Africa, etc I think the US is becoming a great example of how voting doesn't guarantee actual representation and if the absolute truth were known about all the crap they're getting up to, between the politicians and the bureaucrats & agencies, it's becoming quite the shyte-show.
1. Yup
2. That's what happens when people keep pushing towards extremes: you end up with "two evils" to choose from. ![[giveup]](//storage.proboards.com/7182076/images/FSYefibmKqtatIXMgHZg.gif) |
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Post by abbey1227 on Jun 11, 2021 2:37:19 GMT
1. She's a real piece of work.......and indicative of where many American youth's brains are at. Scary
2. I'm sure you can provide plenty of people that were elected that behaved similarly. Some in South America, Europe, Africa, etc I think the US is becoming a great example of how voting doesn't guarantee actual representation and if the absolute truth were known about all the crap they're getting up to, between the politicians and the bureaucrats & agencies, it's becoming quite the shyte-show.
1. Yup
2. That's what happens when people keep pushing towards extremes: you end up with "two evils" to choose from.
I don't believe the US Govt's activities are all that new a thing.
They've just gotten more brazen and blatant about it.
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Post by Prometheus on Jun 11, 2021 2:41:51 GMT
1. Yup
2. That's what happens when people keep pushing towards extremes: you end up with "two evils" to choose from.
I don't believe the US Govt's activities are all that new a thing.
They've just gotten more brazen and blatant about it.
Of course they have... evils. |
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