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[abbey1227]

NBC News
After the Colorado Springs attack, LGBTQ people are furious at the rhetoric targeting them
Jo Yurcaba   Tue, November 22, 2022 at 6:42 PM

Elizabeth Pixie is angry.

She’s angry that her friend Daniel Aston died in a shooting at Club Q. She’s angry that she had to move to Colorado from Texas because she felt unsafe as a trans woman there. And she’s angry with people who have spread anti-LGBTQ rhetoric online — some for years — leading up to the shooting.

www.yahoo.com/news/colorado-springs-attack-lgbtq-people-004244303.html

comments:

9 hours ago
Well I and many people, are enraged as well, at how lgbtqias are blaming straight people for this, when one of their own did it and a straight guy stopped it. They never take responsibility for themselves and that’s a major part of why this happened. None of it was due to the first amendment or people disagreeing with them.

12 hours ago
moved from Texas to Colorado. didn't get hurt in Texas, big trouble in Colorado. how to puzzle that out.

1 day ago
Whatever happened to just being tolerated and accepted? Why are we constantly bombarded with this propaganda for these people? Seems like it's having the opposite effect than intended.

10 hours ago
No doubt demonizing a certain group of people promotes hate and violence but in this particular case i think the shooter was totally dysfunctional anyway. Confused and fustrated about his own identity so he lashes out.

3 hours ago
Remember when the LGBTQ wanted to be left alone to live their life? They no longer want that. They now want everyone to defy all common sense and logic to go blindly along with everything they are pushing. You can stand in the garage, drink gasoline and bath in motor oil for all I care, but you cannot proclaim to the world that you're an actual automobile, must be referred to as one, and force people to go along with it. The rhetoric they are complaining about is common sense and logic, nothing more.

11 hours ago
From what I read, see and know, LGBTQ movement often foster hate toward those who choose not to support them. They often create an adversarial relationship, trying to foster their belief, lifestyle and outlook on people who just want to be left alone. They are involved in politics and social media, try to isolate, cancel or bully those who do not support them. I have nothing against LGBTQ people but I resist their efforts to conform me to their way. I am sure I am not alone on this.

[permutojoe]

You don't think they have a right in general to be angry at the rhetoric targeting them? There is an absolute hatred in this country for anyone not a cis white male.

Meanwhile you have right wing media telling cis white males they're the real victims and a lot of them are stupid enough to believe it.

[merh]

Nov 25, 2022 15:17:15 GMT abbey1227 said:

NBC News
After the Colorado Springs attack, LGBTQ people are furious at the rhetoric targeting them
Jo Yurcaba   Tue, November 22, 2022 at 6:42 PM

Elizabeth Pixie is angry.

She’s angry that her friend Daniel Aston died in a shooting at Club Q. She’s angry that she had to move to Colorado from Texas because she felt unsafe as a trans woman there. And she’s angry with people who have spread anti-LGBTQ rhetoric online — some for years — leading up to the shooting.

www.yahoo.com/news/colorado-springs-attack-lgbtq-people-004244303.html

comments:

9 hours ago
Well I and many people, are enraged as well, at how lgbtqias are blaming straight people for this, when one of their own did it and a straight guy stopped it. They never take responsibility for themselves and that’s a major part of why this happened. None of it was due to the first amendment or people disagreeing with them.

12 hours ago
moved from Texas to Colorado. didn't get hurt in Texas, big trouble in Colorado. how to puzzle that out.

1 day ago
Whatever happened to just being tolerated and accepted? Why are we constantly bombarded with this propaganda for these people? Seems like it's having the opposite effect than intended.

10 hours ago
No doubt demonizing a certain group of people promotes hate and violence but in this particular case i think the shooter was totally dysfunctional anyway. Confused and fustrated about his own identity so he lashes out.

3 hours ago
Remember when the LGBTQ wanted to be left alone to live their life? They no longer want that. They now want everyone to defy all common sense and logic to go blindly along with everything they are pushing. You can stand in the garage, drink gasoline and bath in motor oil for all I care, but you cannot proclaim to the world that you're an actual automobile, must be referred to as one, and force people to go along with it. The rhetoric they are complaining about is common sense and logic, nothing more.

11 hours ago
From what I read, see and know, LGBTQ movement often foster hate toward those who choose not to support them. They often create an adversarial relationship, trying to foster their belief, lifestyle and outlook on people who just want to be left alone. They are involved in politics and social media, try to isolate, cancel or bully those who do not support them. I have nothing against LGBTQ people but I resist their efforts to conform me to their way. I am sure I am not alone on this.

Do you think the attorneys got anything out of him?
Or are they playing games?
His favorite swear according to neighbors is "fa***t"
He apparently posts on an anti gay 4chan board.

Porn-Star Dad of LGBT Club Massacre Suspect Spews Homophobia in First Interview
Justin Rohrlich
Wed, November 23, 2022 at 11:06 AM·5 min read

MMA-fighter-turned-porn-actor Aaron Franklin Brink had an immediate reaction when he learned his 22-year-old son had been accused of slaughtering five people and injuring 18 others last weekend in a mass shooting at a Colorado Springs nightspot catering to the LGBTQ community.

A defense attorney called Sunday night and told Brink, who lives in Southern California, that Anderson Lee Aldrich was under arrest for the massacre at Club Q.

“They started telling me about the incident, a shooting involving multiple people,” Brink said Tuesday in an interview outside his San Diego home with CBS 8. “And then I go on to find out it’s a gay bar. I said, ‘God, is he gay?’ I got scared, ‘Shit, is he gay?’ And he’s not gay, so I said, ‘Phhhewww…’”

Brink, who has appeared in such films as My MILF Boss 8, I Wanna Get Titty Fucked, and Latina Slut Academy, told CBS 8, “You know Mormons don’t do gay. We don’t do gay. There’s no gays in the Mormon church. We don’t do gay.” (The Mormon Church has confirmed that Aldrich was a member but had not been active in some time.)

In a court filing late Tuesday, lawyers for Aldrich, who in 2016 changed his name from Nicholas Franklin Brink to escape his father’s sordid past, said Aldrich is non-binary, saying “they use they/them pronouns.”

However, booking records list Aldrich’s gender as male. Additionally, in text messages from the day of the shooting, which were shown to The Daily Beast by a source close to Aldrich, Aldrich’s mother referred to her son as he and him.

The Daily Beast was unable to reach Brink for comment. A call Wednesday morning to a number in Brink’s wife’s name was answered by a woman who declined to give her name but said she was a “relative.”

“We’re just taking it one day at a time,” she told The Daily Beast. “There is nothing really to do, after everything’s said and done.”

Aldrich allegedly opened fire at Club Q shortly before midnight on Nov. 19 before being subdued by two bystanders. Aldrich was initially hospitalized with unspecified injuries but was transferred to the El Paso County jail on Tuesday, according to authorities.

El Paso County Court
Aldrich, Brink, and Aldrich’s mother, Laura Voepel, have long raised red flags among others in the family, a relative told The Daily Beast shortly after Aldrich’s arrest.

“I don’t want anything to do with that part of the family,” the relative said, asking that their name not be used to avoid becoming tangled up with them again. “They’ve always had issues, a lot of problems… I’m totally disgusted by that side of the family right now.”

In Brink’s interview with CBS 8, he apologized for Aldrich’s alleged actions, saying there’s “no excuse for going and killing people. If you’re killing people, there’s something wrong. It’s not the answer.”

At the same time, Brink, a recovering methamphetamine user who once appeared on the reality show Intervention, said he “praised [Aldrich] for violent behavior really early. I told him it works. It is instant and you’ll get immediate results.”

Brink also said he didn’t realize Aldrich was still alive, telling CBS 8 that Voepel called him in 2016 and said their son had changed their name to Anderson Lee Aldrich, then died by suicide.

“I thought he was dead,” Brink said. “I mourned his loss. I had gone through a meltdown and thought I had lost my son… His mother told me he changed his name because I was in Intervention and I had been a porno actor.”

A notarized affidavit filed in a Texas court almost exactly a month before Aldrich, still Nicholas Brink, turned 16, states, “Minor wishes to protect himself + his future from his birth father + his criminal history. Father has had no contact with minor for several years.”

Six months ago, Brink said a very-much-alive Aldrich called him out of the blue. The two hadn’t spoken in six years, but the conversation quickly devolved into a sparring match, according to Brink.

“He’s pissed off,” Brink, who described himself in the interview as a conservative Republican, told CBS 8. “He’s pissed off at me. He wants to poke at the old man.”

Even before the Club Q shooting, Aldrich had been accused of using violence.

Last year, Aldrich was arrested after cops said they threatened to blow up the Colorado Springs house where Voepel was living. The charges were later dropped, and Colorado’s red flag laws, which would have allowed cops to seize Aldrich’s guns, were apparently not triggered. (The rifle used in the Club Q shooting was bought legally, according to reports.)

Brink, who did federal time in the late 1990s for marijuana importation, said he still loves Aldrich in light of the accusations, and offered an apology to the victims.

“I’m sorry for your loss,” he told CBS 8. “Life is so fragile and it’s valuable. Those people’s lives were valuable. You know, they’re valuable. They’re good people, probably. It’s not something you kill somebody over. I’m sorry I let my son down.”

Aldrich made his first court appearance Wednesday afternoon. He was ordered held without bail.

[Prometheus]

Nov 25, 2022 16:17:10 GMT permutojoe said:

You don't think they have a right in general to be angry at the rhetoric targeting them? There is an absolute hatred in this country for anyone not a cis white male.

Meanwhile you have right wing media telling cis white males they're the real victims and a lot of them are stupid enough to believe it.

AND there's a lot of hate for cis white males.

That's not "right wing media." That's just a fact and it's why we were burdened with Dimwit Donnie for 4 years: You can only whip a dog for so long before it turns around and bites.

[permutojoe]

Nov 25, 2022 23:22:35 GMT Prometheus said:

Nov 25, 2022 16:17:10 GMT permutojoe said:

You don't think they have a right in general to be angry at the rhetoric targeting them? There is an absolute hatred in this country for anyone not a cis white male.

Meanwhile you have right wing media telling cis white males they're the real victims and a lot of them are stupid enough to believe it.

AND there's a lot of hate for cis white males.

That's not "right wing media." That's just a fact and it's why we were burdened with Dimwit Donnie for 4 years: You can only whip a dog for so long before it turns around and bites.

We got Trump because the DNC stopped representing the people and sold out to corporations decades ago.  People got disgruntled and fell for the grift of a reality TV show host.

[Prometheus]

Nov 26, 2022 0:17:12 GMT permutojoe said:

Nov 25, 2022 23:22:35 GMT Prometheus said:

AND there's a lot of hate for cis white males.

That's not "right wing media." That's just a fact and it's why we were burdened with Dimwit Donnie for 4 years: You can only whip a dog for so long before it turns around and bites.

We got Trump because the DNC stopped representing the people and sold out to corporations decades ago.  People got disgruntled and fell for the grift of a reality TV show host.

The grift of a game show host that spoke directly against the hatred aimed as cis white males.

[abbey1227]

Nov 25, 2022 16:47:13 GMT merh said:

Do you think the attorneys got anything out of him?
Or are they playing games?
His favorite swear according to neighbors is "fa***t"
He apparently posts on an anti gay 4chan board.

Porn-Star Dad of LGBT Club Massacre Suspect Spews Homophobia in First Interview

I'm sure very little will make any sense.

It's a great swear word. My co-worker uses it all the time.......of course, he is one, so apparently it's OK. 

Maybe his whole beef was with himself?

Dad certainly wasn't much use in the parenting department.

[abbey1227]

Nov 25, 2022 16:17:10 GMT permutojoe said:

You don't think they have a right in general to be angry at the rhetoric targeting them? There is an absolute hatred in this country for anyone not a cis white male.

Meanwhile you have right wing media telling cis white males they're the real victims and a lot of them are stupid enough to believe it.

EVERYONE has a right to be angry. It's a chicken/egg argument

And very few truly want equality.......they want payback

[abbey1227]

Nov 26, 2022 0:17:12 GMT permutojoe said:

We got Trump because the DNC stopped representing the people and sold out to corporations decades ago.  People got disgruntled and fell for the grift of a reality TV show host.

You left out the GOP in that, too

Donnie delivered, or at least tried to, on several key things.

[permutojoe]

Nov 26, 2022 2:11:12 GMT abbey1227 said:

Nov 26, 2022 0:17:12 GMT permutojoe said:

We got Trump because the DNC stopped representing the people and sold out to corporations decades ago.  People got disgruntled and fell for the grift of a reality TV show host.

You left out the GOP in that, too

Donnie delivered, or at least tried to, on several key things.

Sure, sure.  He tried to.  That's enough I suppose.  

[abbey1227]

Nov 26, 2022 2:42:43 GMT permutojoe said:

Nov 26, 2022 2:11:12 GMT abbey1227 said:

You left out the GOP in that, too

Donnie delivered, or at least tried to, on several key things.

Sure, sure.  He tried to.  That's enough I suppose.  

That's the BS excuse I get from many that support Democrats.  "At least they care and tried to help." despite decades of failure in areas where there has been one party rule.

[permutojoe]

Nov 26, 2022 2:44:05 GMT abbey1227 said:

Nov 26, 2022 2:42:43 GMT permutojoe said:

Sure, sure.  He tried to.  That's enough I suppose.  

That's the BS excuse I get from many that support Democrats.  "At least they care and tried to help." despite decades of failure in areas where there has been one party rule.

Now I gotta start talking about that?  Just how ADD crackhead are you?

[abbey1227]

Nov 26, 2022 3:27:08 GMT permutojoe said:

Nov 26, 2022 2:44:05 GMT abbey1227 said:

That's the BS excuse I get from many that support Democrats.  "At least they care and tried to help." despite decades of failure in areas where there has been one party rule.

Now I gotta start talking about that?  Just how ADD crackhead are you?

This is all clean living, dude.

A few concussions along the way..........but otherwise  

[abbey1227]

Nov 26, 2022 2:42:43 GMT permutojoe said:

Nov 26, 2022 2:11:12 GMT abbey1227 said:

You left out the GOP in that, too

Donnie delivered, or at least tried to, on several key things.

Sure, sure.  He tried to.  That's enough I suppose.  

I'm OK with all of these but #30      townhall.com/columnists/waynegrudem/2020/08/24/30-good-things-president-trump-has-done-for-america-n2574849

[permutojoe]

Nov 26, 2022 13:38:56 GMT abbey1227 said:

Nov 26, 2022 2:42:43 GMT permutojoe said:

Sure, sure.  He tried to.  That's enough I suppose.  

I'm OK with all of these but #30      townhall.com/columnists/waynegrudem/2020/08/24/30-good-things-president-trump-has-done-for-america-n2574849

I got through 7 before realizing it's a laundry list of the things he's done to fuck us over.

[abbey1227]

Nov 26, 2022 14:25:03 GMT permutojoe said:

Nov 26, 2022 13:38:56 GMT abbey1227 said:

I'm OK with all of these but #30      townhall.com/columnists/waynegrudem/2020/08/24/30-good-things-president-trump-has-done-for-america-n2574849

I got through 7 before realizing it's a laundry list of the things he's done to fuck us over.

Who is us?   

The people looking for more and more from the Govt? at other peoples' expense?

What part of smaller, less expensive Govt doesn't make sense to you? More money in your own pocket? Which you could spend, or choose where to send it directly in a charitable way?

[permutojoe]

Nov 26, 2022 14:29:44 GMT abbey1227 said:

Nov 26, 2022 14:25:03 GMT permutojoe said:

I got through 7 before realizing it's a laundry list of the things he's done to fuck us over.

Who is us?   

The people looking for more and more from the Govt? at other peoples' expense?

What part of smaller, less expensive Govt doesn't make sense to you? More money in your own pocket? Which you could spend, or choose where to send it directly in a charitable way?

Feel like we've been through this before. 

[abbey1227]

Nov 26, 2022 14:34:55 GMT permutojoe said:

Nov 26, 2022 14:29:44 GMT abbey1227 said:

Who is us?   

The people looking for more and more from the Govt? at other peoples' expense?

What part of smaller, less expensive Govt doesn't make sense to you? More money in your own pocket? Which you could spend, or choose where to send it directly in a charitable way?

Feel like we've been through this before. 

Well, then you're well aware that those who supported Trump's actions in Govt are totally fine with 'f'ing over us' if it finally gets what they voted for all this time?

[permutojoe]

Nov 26, 2022 14:37:54 GMT abbey1227 said:

Nov 26, 2022 14:34:55 GMT permutojoe said:

Feel like we've been through this before. 

Well, then you're well aware that those who supported Trump's actions in Govt are totally fine with 'f'ing over us' if it finally gets what they voted for all this time?

Most of his voters were not voting for him to give trillions away to the super rich.  A few were of course.

[abbey1227]

Nov 26, 2022 14:54:47 GMT permutojoe said:

Nov 26, 2022 14:37:54 GMT abbey1227 said:

Well, then you're well aware that those who supported Trump's actions in Govt are totally fine with 'f'ing over us' if it finally gets what they voted for all this time?

Most of his voters were not voting for him to give trillions away to the super rich.  A few were of course.

You couldn't be more wrong..........especially in your chosen terminology. It's not 'giving away' money. It's allowing people to keep more of their own money.

The 'giving away' comes from all of the welfare and handouts we're currently burdened with. Y'know...... like EBT, housing, rental assistance, student loan forgiveness, and on and on and on