ROE V WADE

[merh]

[abbey1227]

May 4, 2022 2:22:14 GMT merh said:

Why would the 'winning' side have thrown a hissy back then?

[abbey1227]

May 4, 2022 0:49:08 GMT Prometheus said:

May 3, 2022 5:53:39 GMT merh said:

Yet you bitch about them all the time.

Nope. He bitches about Planned Parenthood all the time because he thinks government money is being used to fund abortions, even though there is no proof of it.

If actual proof were ever provided, I would be against PP getting government funds as well. I support UHC but not for voluntary procedures.

Thank you. And I think that's a very important distinction.

You and I disagree on UHC even.........but even though we're both pro-choice.......it has at least some prerequisites, too.

We came to those conclusion from very different paths, as well.

[abbey1227]

May 4, 2022 1:47:10 GMT merh said:

I've suggested similar policies

[abbey1227]

May 4, 2022 2:12:55 GMT merh said:

Seems like a perfect time to suggest people stop looking to others for their essentials in life.

And WHY would humanity's income rise during Covid if most of them stayed home and didn't work? Though, there was the telling phenomenon of a rise in $Savings for many Americans. That new form of welfare sure paid off for millions. But let's keep ignoring that.

[merh]

May 4, 2022 4:36:59 GMT abbey1227 said:

May 4, 2022 2:12:55 GMT merh said:

Seems like a perfect time to suggest people stop looking to others for their essentials in life.

And WHY would humanity's income rise during Covid if most of them stayed home and didn't work? Though, there was the telling phenomenon of a rise in $Savings for many Americans. That new form of welfare sure paid off for millions. But let's keep ignoring that.

Did YOU quarantine for 2 yrs?
I kept working.
Lots of us kept working 
Why do you think we stopped?

Lots of people.worked from home. 
They're pissed employers want them to return to the office.

[abbey1227]

May 4, 2022 6:39:36 GMT merh said:

Did YOU quarantine for 2 yrs?
I kept working.
Lots of us kept working 
Why do you think we stopped?

Lots of people.worked from home. 
They're pissed employers want them to return to the office.

I've told you I kept working. Right up until the point 9 months later that I came down with covid and was forced to take 10+ days off.

The millions that stopped were those that DID stay home. That had no jobs to go to since the Govt mandated all those businesses shut down.......you know, for a few weeks.

I realize that. That's a good conversation to have as well. Which jobs CAN be done as well or even better from home? Remember all the guff I took years ago suggesting that most teachers could be replaced with videos? 

[merh]

[merh]

May 4, 2022 8:24:59 GMT abbey1227 said:

May 4, 2022 6:39:36 GMT merh said:

Did YOU quarantine for 2 yrs?
I kept working.
Lots of us kept working 
Why do you think we stopped?

Lots of people.worked from home. 
They're pissed employers want them to return to the office.

I've told you I kept working. Right up until the point 9 months later that I came down with covid and was forced to take 10+ days off.

The millions that stopped were those that DID stay home. That had no jobs to go to since the Govt mandated all those businesses shut down.......you know, for a few weeks.

I realize that. That's a good conversation to have as well. Which jobs CAN be done as well or even better from home? Remember all the guff I took years ago suggesting that most teachers could be replaced with videos? 

The grocery stores were open.

7-11

Fast food

Restaurants

Stores.


Who was working all those places?

[abbey1227]

May 4, 2022 22:55:14 GMT merh said:

The grocery stores were open.

7-11

Fast food

Restaurants

Stores.


Who was working all those places?

Dedicated people. Like you and me.  

Are you denying millions weren't and still aren't working?

[abbey1227]

Whoopi Goldberg: Abortion a Decision Between Me and My Child

[merh]

May 5, 2022 1:25:57 GMT abbey1227 said:

May 4, 2022 22:55:14 GMT merh said:

The grocery stores were open.

7-11

Fast food

Restaurants

Stores.


Who was working all those places?

Dedicated people. Like you and me.  

Are you denying millions weren't and still aren't working?

Labor force participation has been dropping for years.

February 2020 was 63.4%
April was 60.2%
By May it was up to 61%.
It is currently 62.4%

Baby boomers retiring is bringing it down

[abbey1227]

May 4, 2022 22:54:02 GMT merh said:

Before I scrolled down.........my first thought was "That could be a mammal of any sort"

[abbey1227]

May 5, 2022 1:41:09 GMT merh said:

Labor force participation has been dropping for years.

February 2020 was 63.4%
April was 60.2%
By May it was up to 61%.
It is currently 62.4%

Baby boomers retiring is bringing it down

Thank you, Ms. Psaki   

Now excluding all of the actual retirees........ you don't believe there's millions just avoiding gainful employment?

[merh]

May 5, 2022 1:49:44 GMT abbey1227 said:

May 5, 2022 1:41:09 GMT merh said:

Labor force participation has been dropping for years.

February 2020 was 63.4%
April was 60.2%
By May it was up to 61%.
It is currently 62.4%

Baby boomers retiring is bringing it down

Thank you, Ms. Psaki   

Now excluding all of the actual retirees........ you don't believe there's millions just avoiding gainful employment?

Looks like January 2013 when it was higher than 63.4%

I thought Trump was so fantastic about the economy?

[abbey1227]

May 5, 2022 1:58:37 GMT merh said:

May 5, 2022 1:49:44 GMT abbey1227 said:

Thank you, Ms. Psaki   

Now excluding all of the actual retirees........ you don't believe there's millions just avoiding gainful employment?

Looks like January 2013 when it was higher than 63.4%

I thought Trump was so fantastic about the economy?

He wasn't in favor of shutting down the country.

He wasn't in favor of 'the cure' being worse than the disease.

That would be the Establishment. They got their way. And here we are. Inflation is up big time. Gas is up. Prices are up. War has returned. Totally better.

[Prometheus]

May 5, 2022 1:49:44 GMT abbey1227 said:

May 5, 2022 1:41:09 GMT merh said:

Labor force participation has been dropping for years.

February 2020 was 63.4%
April was 60.2%
By May it was up to 61%.
It is currently 62.4%

Baby boomers retiring is bringing it down

Thank you, Ms. Psaki   

Now excluding all of the actual retirees........ you don't believe there's millions just avoiding gainful employment?

Why is it always this idea that people are "avoiding" rather than just trying to find the best job?

[Prometheus]

May 5, 2022 2:07:16 GMT abbey1227 said:

May 5, 2022 1:58:37 GMT merh said:

Looks like January 2013 when it was higher than 63.4%

I thought Trump was so fantastic about the economy?

He wasn't in favor of shutting down the country.

He wasn't in favor of 'the cure' being worse than the disease.

That would be the Establishment. They got their way. And here we are. Inflation is up big time. Gas is up. Prices are up. War has returned. Totally better.

But two months (or more) of fucking around and doing nothing left us with exactly those choices.

Maybe the man should have taken his job seriously in the first fucking place.

[merh]

May 5, 2022 2:07:16 GMT abbey1227 said:

May 5, 2022 1:58:37 GMT merh said:

Looks like January 2013 when it was higher than 63.4%

I thought Trump was so fantastic about the economy?

He wasn't in favor of shutting down the country.

He wasn't in favor of 'the cure' being worse than the disease.

That would be the Establishment. They got their way. And here we are. Inflation is up big time. Gas is up. Prices are up. War has returned. Totally better.

When did it leave?

Donald Trump started no new wars — but he is one of history's biggest war presidents
Donald Trump is a war president, one of the most notorious in our history
By HEATHER DIGBY PARTON
PUBLISHED JANUARY 19, 2021 9:59AM (EST)

One of the more remarkable achievements of Donald Trump's unique form of hucksterism is that he was able to create a myth that he is a branding genius when his only real brand is his name, something he inherited from his father. Trump also took credit for political slogans that were created by other people, although it's highly unlikely he knew where they came from or what they referred to when he cribbed them. The most famous is "Make American Great Again" which was Ronald Reagan's campaign slogan in 1980. There was also "Law and Order," Richard Nixon's 1968 dog whistle and going back even further "America First," which was the isolationist's slogan in the years before Pearl Harbor pulled the US into World War II. He has little to no historical knowledge so he almost certainly didn't see that reference when he used it to explain his foreign policy which really came down to, "we do whatever we want, and you will pay us 'protection' to make sure we don't do it to you. We are untouchable because our massive military is so bloated no one will mess with us no matter what. We're Number 1!"

One appealing aspect of that weird and incoherent policy to many people on both sides of the political spectrum was the idea that America would withdraw from the hot wars we'd been bogged down in since 9/11. Trump claimed that he wanted to do that but was clueless, of course, and proceeded to make decisions willy nilly, antagonizing traditional adversaries, like Iran, as well as insulting our allies, like Germany, raising the stakes dramatically. Mike Pence fatuously declared that this was "peace through strength" but it was anything but. It was dumb luck.

Under Trump, the U.S. has been involved in increasingly deadly conflicts in Yemen, Somalia and Niger. His belated 11th Hour "drawdowns" Iraq, Afghanistan, and various African countries are being rushed without proper planning or forethought at the end of his term, leaving them more likely to be landmines set to explode on the Biden administration. As the Nation's Andrew McCormick wrote in a scathing indictment of Trump's policy:

To be clear, I'm no proponent of indefinite or ill-defined troop deployments, and in this magazine I've argued on multiple counts against forever war. I believe America should pursue every responsible option to leave Afghanistan and that a thorough review of our footprints in East Africa and elsewhere is long overdue. Drawdown shouldn't look like this, though. To our foreign partners, whom we have trained and fought with; to the people of these countries whom we have asked to trust America, even despite the enormous human tragedies war has wrought; and, speaking from just one veteran's perspective, to all the military men and women who have served and died in these conflicts over the years, America's leaders owe a great deal more than a slipshod, self-interested rush out the door.

We should have been out of many of these places a long time ago but giving Trump any credit for his belated decisions even as he made incoherent or obviously ill-considered decisions to favor his dictator buddies, as he did with Turkey and Syria, is ridiculous. His killing of the Iranian General Qasem Soleimani was one of the most provocative acts by the U.S. in many a moon and it was only by the forbearance of Iranian leaders that it did not escalate into a terrible conflagration.

Still, it is true that he did not start any new wars in foreign countries. Some people on the right are saying this makes him the first president since Dwight Eisenhower not to do so but that's not true. Still, he is the first since Jimmy Carter who can say that. (Frankly, I think that's probably attributable to "the Madman Theory" than anything else, but he does get credit for it. )

Nonetheless, despite his endless, futile begging for the Nobel Peace Prize, let's not pretend that he is some kind of peacenik who has made the world a safer place. This was a man who ran for office the first time promising to torture prisoners while extolling the virtues of capital punishment and summary executions. Since then he has excused Neo-Nazis and defended the Confederacy. He restored the federal death penalty racing to execute as many people as he can before he leaves office. He banned citizens of Muslim countries from coming to the US, put children in cages and pardoned a series of war criminals, sending a pretty strong signal to the world that the US has become a rogue superpower that ignores common decency and international law.

Trump may not have started up a new war overseas but he sure as hell waged one at home, using propaganda techniques, technology and a non-stop barrage of lies and lurid demagoguery. He demonized immigrants and racial minorities, portrayed Democrats as evil and the free press as enemies of the people.

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[abbey1227]

May 5, 2022 2:49:55 GMT Prometheus said:

May 5, 2022 1:49:44 GMT abbey1227 said:

Thank you, Ms. Psaki   

Now excluding all of the actual retirees........ you don't believe there's millions just avoiding gainful employment?

Why is it always this idea that people are "avoiding" rather than just trying to find the best job?

I'm the type of person that believes working a lesser job in the meantime to finding the best job is a better situation. At least some money is coming in.