Satire?

[abbey1227]

Dec 18, 2021 22:25:52 GMT merh said:

What world do YOU live in?
Anyone dies under 80 seems young to me. 
80 is the benchmark.

This isn't Russia, dude, where life expectancy is 72.79
The US is 78.99 so yeah, 80.

African continent?
I thought you were in Wisconsin

I live in this world. Those averages are computed how? Plenty of people die under 50 and a lot manage to make it into their 80s and 90s, so we end up with an average.

But compared to just a few generations ago, I don't think it's unreasonable to acknowledge that dying at 52 seems a shame and youngish these days........but it's all just a matter of luck of the draw sometimes.

I see the Obits with people in their youth, their mid-40s and 50s........and plenty making it to 70 and beyond. I'd guess we average about the same as much of the US.

sheesh, you go looking for a simple % on who lives past 60 on average and all you get is stupid commentary like this..........

"What is the percentage of people who live beyond or die before 60-years-old?

To answer the question as written, the percentage of people who live beyond or before 60-years-old is close to 100%.

Most people are either going to die before they reach 60 or after they reach 60. The only exception will be a small number compared to the total that die at exactly 60.

Obviously 60 years and one second is after 60. Dying one second before 60 is not 60 so it qualifies as dying before. The percentage gets even lower if one counts fractions of a second."

[merh]

Dec 19, 2021 2:40:28 GMT abbey1227 said:

Dec 18, 2021 22:25:52 GMT merh said:

What world do YOU live in?
Anyone dies under 80 seems young to me. 
80 is the benchmark.

This isn't Russia, dude, where life expectancy is 72.79
The US is 78.99 so yeah, 80.

African continent?
I thought you were in Wisconsin

I live in this world. Those averages are computed how? Plenty of people die under 50 and a lot manage to make it into their 80s and 90s, so we end up with an average.

But compared to just a few generations ago, I don't think it's unreasonable to acknowledge that dying at 52 seems a shame and youngish these days........but it's all just a matter of luck of the draw sometimes.

I see the Obits with people in their youth, their mid-40s and 50s........and plenty making it to 70 and beyond. I'd guess we average about the same as much of the US.

sheesh, you go looking for a simple % on who lives past 60 on average and all you get is stupid commentary like this..........

"What is the percentage of people who live beyond or die before 60-years-old?

To answer the question as written, the percentage of people who live beyond or before 60-years-old is close to 100%.

Most people are either going to die before they reach 60 or after they reach 60. The only exception will be a small number compared to the total that die at exactly 60.

Obviously 60 years and one second is after 60. Dying one second before 60 is not 60 so it qualifies as dying before. The percentage gets even lower if one counts fractions of a second."

I assume it's some insurance chart thing but per encyclopedia Britannica 

life expectancy, estimate of the average number of additional years that a person of a given age can expect to live. The most common measure of life expectancy is life expectancy at birth. Life expectancy is a hypothetical measure. It assumes that the age-specific death rates for the year in question will apply throughout the lifetime of individuals born in that year. The estimate, in effect, projects the age-specific mortality (death) rates for a given period over the entire lifetime of the population born (or alive) during that time. The measure differs considerably by sex, age, race, and geographic location. Therefore, life expectancy is commonly given for specific categories, rather than for the population in general. For example, the life expectancy for white females in the United States who were born in 2003 is 80.4 years.

Life expectancy reflects local conditions. In less-developed countries, life expectancy at birth is relatively low, compared with more-developed countries. In some less-developed countries, life expectancy at birth may be lower than life expectancy at age 1, because of high infant mortality rates (commonly due to infectious disease or lack of access to a clean water supply).


Life expectancy is calculated by constructing a life table. A life table incorporates data on age-specific death rates for the population in question, which requires enumeration data for the number of people, and the number of deaths at each age for that population. Those numbers typically are derived from national census and vital statistics data, and from them the average life expectancy for each of the age groups within the population can be calculated.


The potential accuracy of estimated life expectancy depends on the completeness of the census and death data available for the population in question. The completeness of that data varies from country to country. In the United States, for example, official complete life tables based on registered deaths have been prepared since 1900, in connection with the decennial census. Since 1945, annual abridged U.S. life tables have been published based on the annual death registration and estimates of the population. Complete life tables show life expectancy for every year of age, and abridged tables show life expectancy for 5- or 10-year age groups, rather than for single-year groups. National life tables for many countries are published by the United Nations in its Demographic Yearbook.

Another life expectancy calculation is healthy life expectancy (or disability-free life expectancy), which is the average number of years a person is expected to live in good health, or without disability, given current age-specific mortality rates and disease and disability prevalence rates. Calculation of those figures requires reliable health statistics as well as mortality and census data.

So yeah.

Hell,  lots of kids die before they hit 2 yrs old.
Doesn't mean one is lucky to make it to 10.

[abbey1227]

Dec 19, 2021 3:31:00 GMT merh said:

I assume it's some insurance chart thing but per encyclopedia Britannica 

life expectancy, estimate of the average number of additional years that a person of a given age can expect to live. The most common measure of life expectancy is life expectancy at birth. Life expectancy is a hypothetical measure. It assumes that the age-specific death rates for the year in question will apply throughout the lifetime of individuals born in that year. The estimate, in effect, projects the age-specific mortality (death) rates for a given period over the entire lifetime of the population born (or alive) during that time. The measure differs considerably by sex, age, race, and geographic location. Therefore, life expectancy is commonly given for specific categories, rather than for the population in general. For example, the life expectancy for white females in the United States who were born in 2003 is 80.4 years.

Life expectancy reflects local conditions. In less-developed countries, life expectancy at birth is relatively low, compared with more-developed countries. In some less-developed countries, life expectancy at birth may be lower than life expectancy at age 1, because of high infant mortality rates (commonly due to infectious disease or lack of access to a clean water supply).


Life expectancy is calculated by constructing a life table. A life table incorporates data on age-specific death rates for the population in question, which requires enumeration data for the number of people, and the number of deaths at each age for that population. Those numbers typically are derived from national census and vital statistics data, and from them the average life expectancy for each of the age groups within the population can be calculated.


The potential accuracy of estimated life expectancy depends on the completeness of the census and death data available for the population in question. The completeness of that data varies from country to country. In the United States, for example, official complete life tables based on registered deaths have been prepared since 1900, in connection with the decennial census. Since 1945, annual abridged U.S. life tables have been published based on the annual death registration and estimates of the population. Complete life tables show life expectancy for every year of age, and abridged tables show life expectancy for 5- or 10-year age groups, rather than for single-year groups. National life tables for many countries are published by the United Nations in its Demographic Yearbook.

Another life expectancy calculation is healthy life expectancy (or disability-free life expectancy), which is the average number of years a person is expected to live in good health, or without disability, given current age-specific mortality rates and disease and disability prevalence rates. Calculation of those figures requires reliable health statistics as well as mortality and census data.

So yeah.

Hell,  lots of kids die before they hit 2 yrs old.
Doesn't mean one is lucky to make it to 10.

I'm just saying, there's a reason that Social Security picked the age they did........cuz it was a Bet on whether too many people would survive to and past that age. These days, more and more are amking it, unfortunately for SS.

Do you think the US counts abortions in those life expectancy figures?  I know, I know..... ABBEY!?  but it just struck me as a funny thought to consider whether or not that would lower our Age Expectancy average

[merh]

Dec 19, 2021 3:34:07 GMT abbey1227 said:

Dec 19, 2021 3:31:00 GMT merh said:

I assume it's some insurance chart thing but per encyclopedia Britannica 

So yeah.

Hell,  lots of kids die before they hit 2 yrs old.
Doesn't mean one is lucky to make it to 10.

I'm just saying, there's a reason that Social Security picked the age they did........cuz it was a Bet on whether too many people would survive to and past that age. These days, more and more are amking it, unfortunately for SS.

Do you think the US counts abortions in those life expectancy figures?  I know, I know..... ABBEY!?  but it just struck me as a funny thought to consider whether or not that would lower our Age Expectancy average

Why would they add fetuses to life expectancy. 

Things might change banning abortion with babies born that Die shortly after birth.  Better they die naturally, right? Or that we sink tons of tax money into trying to preserve them! Better than people living longer because of medical advances preventing people from dying of preventable diseases!

Did you remember.

1983 Taxation of Social Security benefits introduced, new federal hires required to be under Social Security, retirement age increased for younger workers to 66 and 67 years

Claim that politicians exempted themselves from the tax 
Critics of Social Security have said that the politicians who created Social Security exempted themselves from having to pay the Social Security tax. When the federal government created Social Security, all federal employees, including the president and members of Congress, were exempt from having to pay the Social Security tax, and they received no Social Security benefits. This law was changed by the Social Security Amendments of 1983, which brought within the Social Security system all members of Congress, the president and the vice president, federal judges, and certain executive-level political appointees, as well as all federal employees hired in any capacity on or after January 1, 1984. Many state and local government workers, however, are exempt from Social Security taxes because they contribute instead to alternative retirement systems set up by their employers.

So the President can get Social Security thanks to...whoever was president in 1983.

That's what messed up government employees pensions in the 00s-politicians jumping in. Threw the formulas off.

They make more than enough in their working careers. Surely they can squirrel away that same 6% into retirement accounts or Wall Street to make a better return on that money? Why do they want what the poorer folk make?

[merh]

my husband had a wrist injury before the three weeks he was unemployed in 2009….and didnt get cobra coverage but he did have to get the pins taken out of his arm during the three weeks. He assumed that part was subsumed into the $50k surgery that was under his insurance several weeks before while he was still employed. Apparently it wasnt and the uninsured bill for him for pin removal was $9000. He didnt pay for it in 30 days and it was sent straight to collections. This was before we met and seven or eight years later while buying a house with me we had to delay house buying a couple years because of that. That meant the house we were looking at (to build new) went up 50k in those two years. we rented at $1000 a month an extra two years…we paid a few extra for “points” to get the mortgage interest rate down somewhat due to his credit score from the collections on his record making our rate higher.

So because he was unemployed for three weeks during the recession and needed pins removed from his arm from a surgery that was covered by insurance, the cause and effect of all that was many many tens of thousands of dollars for us in the long run. This is the ballooning financial bullshit millennials and beyond have had to deal with that some older peoole do not fucking get. This is why i at 40 with an advanced degree and a double income household and not being crazy spenders, im struggling more than my no ambition middle management father who was the only income ans could afford to send three kids to private school while supporting a gambling problem

My daughter had to be transported by ambulance to the ped er. They couldn't figure out the issue, so she was taken by another ambulance to the main clinic.

Spent 5 days in ped ICU. 4 lumbar drains later she was released. Then taken to the hospital pick up/release area in a wheelchair. When they stood her up she collapsed.

So they had to readmit her to the er then back to the ICU for two more days.

I have given up processing the situation and laugh at the bill, because it's absolutely impossible to pay.

The itemized coding for the bill is like 12 pages long.

My Dad needs emergency heart surgery, but insurance won’t pay for it as it’s a newer procedure, that they’ve already denied twice. I know my parents try to avoid talking about this around me or my brother, but they say he has less than two years if he cant get this surgery. We cant afford to pay the 180K+ bill, so I’m worried. I withdrew from college a fee years ago to help take care of him, which is great because i get to see him more than i did as a child because of his work, but i know he’s worried about if he passes, what’ll happen to us.

k_mon2244•3 days ago
Also doctor. Spent half of my work day calling insurance companies to try and convince the unqualified, non medically trained human on the other end of the phone that yes, my patient does need this medication, and no, I can’t just switch them to an entirely different class of medications bc the insurance company wants me to. I would have gotten more satisfaction from banging my head against a brick wall.

Also I want everyone to know that insurance companies are the source of a big chunk of the problems with the American healthcare system. Hospital administrators are the cause of most of the rest of the problems

I have a medically necessary colonoscopy every year to ensure I don't have cancer again. Every year this costs me $2000 after my deductible which has varied by employer from $500-$2000.

For the 3 years I lived in Germany, I paid the same tax rate I do now in SF and didn't have additional costs of health insurance, this cost me no additional money out of pocket. For the 6 years of needing this while not living in Germany this has cost me almost $20k with $100-200 a month for insurance, $500-$2000 deductible and $2000 out of pocket every time. Don't get me started on the actual cancer care costs 12 years ago.

Also I had to get stitches in Germany once. It cost 300 euros out of pocket with no insurance. In US another time my insurance was billed $14,000.

We are a fucking sham. A terrible country with a sorry excuse for health care

[abbey1227]

Dec 23, 2021 14:11:33 GMT merh said:

my husband had a wrist injury before the three weeks he was unemployed in 2009….and didnt get cobra coverage but he did have to get the pins taken out of his arm during the three weeks. He assumed that part was subsumed into the $50k surgery that was under his insurance several weeks before while he was still employed. Apparently it wasnt and the uninsured bill for him for pin removal was $9000. He didnt pay for it in 30 days and it was sent straight to collections. This was before we met and seven or eight years later while buying a house with me we had to delay house buying a couple years because of that. That meant the house we were looking at (to build new) went up 50k in those two years. we rented at $1000 a month an extra two years…we paid a few extra for “points” to get the mortgage interest rate down somewhat due to his credit score from the collections on his record making our rate higher.

So because he was unemployed for three weeks during the recession and needed pins removed from his arm from a surgery that was covered by insurance, the cause and effect of all that was many many tens of thousands of dollars for us in the long run. This is the ballooning financial bullshit millennials and beyond have had to deal with that some older peoole do not fucking get. This is why i at 40 with an advanced degree and a double income household and not being crazy spenders, im struggling more than my no ambition middle management father who was the only income ans could afford to send three kids to private school while supporting a gambling problem

My daughter had to be transported by ambulance to the ped er. They couldn't figure out the issue, so she was taken by another ambulance to the main clinic.

Spent 5 days in ped ICU. 4 lumbar drains later she was released. Then taken to the hospital pick up/release area in a wheelchair. When they stood her up she collapsed.

So they had to readmit her to the er then back to the ICU for two more days.

I have given up processing the situation and laugh at the bill, because it's absolutely impossible to pay.

The itemized coding for the bill is like 12 pages long.

My Dad needs emergency heart surgery, but insurance won’t pay for it as it’s a newer procedure, that they’ve already denied twice. I know my parents try to avoid talking about this around me or my brother, but they say he has less than two years if he cant get this surgery. We cant afford to pay the 180K+ bill, so I’m worried. I withdrew from college a fee years ago to help take care of him, which is great because i get to see him more than i did as a child because of his work, but i know he’s worried about if he passes, what’ll happen to us.

k_mon2244•3 days ago
Also doctor. Spent half of my work day calling insurance companies to try and convince the unqualified, non medically trained human on the other end of the phone that yes, my patient does need this medication, and no, I can’t just switch them to an entirely different class of medications bc the insurance company wants me to. I would have gotten more satisfaction from banging my head against a brick wall.

Also I want everyone to know that insurance companies are the source of a big chunk of the problems with the American healthcare system. Hospital administrators are the cause of most of the rest of the problems

I have a medically necessary colonoscopy every year to ensure I don't have cancer again. Every year this costs me $2000 after my deductible which has varied by employer from $500-$2000.

For the 3 years I lived in Germany, I paid the same tax rate I do now in SF and didn't have additional costs of health insurance, this cost me no additional money out of pocket. For the 6 years of needing this while not living in Germany this has cost me almost $20k with $100-200 a month for insurance, $500-$2000 deductible and $2000 out of pocket every time. Don't get me started on the actual cancer care costs 12 years ago.

Also I had to get stitches in Germany once. It cost 300 euros out of pocket with no insurance. In US another time my insurance was billed $14,000.

We are a fucking sham. A terrible country with a sorry excuse for health care

1. I notice that kind and caring doctor Brian didn't offer to reduce or waive his fee.

2. I do think the ENTIRE treatment for that wrist injury should clearly be covered in one package by the insurer. They're buying a house, but it took several years to pay off $9,000 in medical debt? And I do believe that medical bills should REMAIN just that, medical bills. NOT pawned off to collection agencies........so where's Congress on that? Oh, right.....they passed the ACA for those that never intended to pay a bill.

3. Gotta love the coding in medical bills. Sorta like our tax code, they make it more and more difficult on purpose.

4. Why is Dad worried about 'what'll happen' to college aged kids? They're adults, no? 

5. Doctors should not be spending ANY time arguing with insurance companies. This should have been settled decades ago. The doctor makes recommendations for treatment and the insurance company offers policies that cover varying degrees of care. It should all be in Black & White whether or not it's covered. The sheer amount of paperwork pushing is one of the reasons it's so insane and costly. Also, like the schools, WHY are there so many Administrators in the first place? They NEED doctors and nurses. They do not need administrators in abundance.

6. Everyone knows about the Germans. They'd probably enjoy and engage in that sorta stuff for free if you let them. j/k  I did notice that San Franciscan didn't mention the Cost of Living in their comparison between SF and Germany, though.  hmmmm

[merh]

Dec 23, 2021 14:42:16 GMT abbey1227 said:

Dec 23, 2021 14:11:33 GMT merh said:

1. I notice that kind and caring doctor Brian didn't offer to reduce or waive his fee.

2. I do think the ENTIRE treatment for that wrist injury should clearly be covered in one package by the insurer. They're buying a house, but it took several years to pay off $9,000 in medical debt? And I do believe that medical bills should REMAIN just that, medical bills. NOT pawned off to collection agencies........so where's Congress on that? Oh, right.....they passed the ACA for those that never intended to pay a bill.

3. Gotta love the coding in medical bills. Sorta like our tax code, they make it more and more difficult on purpose.

4. Why is Dad worried about 'what'll happen' to college aged kids? They're adults, no? 

5. Doctors should not be spending ANY time arguing with insurance companies. This should have been settled decades ago. The doctor makes recommendations for treatment and the insurance company offers policies that cover varying degrees of care. It should all be in Black & White whether or not it's covered. The sheer amount of paperwork pushing is one of the reasons it's so insane and costly. Also, like the schools, WHY are there so many Administrators in the first place? They NEED doctors and nurses. They do not need administrators in abundance.

6. Everyone knows about the Germans. They'd probably enjoy and engage in that sorta stuff for free if you let them. j/k  I did notice that San Franciscan didn't mention the Cost of Living in their comparison between SF and Germany, though.  hmmmm

1-Brian probably sees a dozen people a year who can't afford their deductibles. He's subbosed to do all this charity? Nice you're deciding that when tou argue so fiercely about your tax dollars.

2-why should insurance companies do that?
Spreading it out throws it I to this situation where they might not be liable.

Hell, I remember being on a plan in the early 80s where if one did not call the plan, wait on hold, etc, before going to the ER, they wouldn't pay the bill.

4-you stop worrying about your dogs when they are adult dogs?

5-you like the insurance system.
Once again, Ronnie set in place for people to be denied disability on the first try. A simple pencil pusher couldn't decide an any buy the most obvious of cases. Everything else had to go above to an arbitrator. 

You think insurance companies don't do the same thing?

Say no.
Hope the patient will accept the no.
Make it hell to get the help one needs.

6-he said he was at the same tax level in both Germany & Frisco. Presumably it was similar.

[abbey1227]

Dec 23, 2021 21:35:12 GMT merh said:

1-Brian probably sees a dozen people a year who can't afford their deductibles. He's subbosed to do all this charity? Nice you're deciding that when tou argue so fiercely about your tax dollars.

2-why should insurance companies do that?
Spreading it out throws it I to this situation where they might not be liable.
Hell, I remember being on a plan in the early 80s where if one did not call the plan, wait on hold, etc, before going to the ER, they wouldn't pay the bill.

4-you stop worrying about your dogs when they are adult dogs?

5-you like the insurance system.
Once again, Ronnie set in place for people to be denied disability on the first try. A simple pencil pusher couldn't decide an any buy the most obvious of cases. Everything else had to go above to an arbitrator.
You think insurance companies don't do the same thing
Say no.
Hope the patient will accept the no.
Make it hell to get the help one needs.

6-he said he was at the same tax level in both Germany & Frisco. Presumably it was similar.

1. And? Brian and people like him expect ME to pick up the tab.........but they won't take care of it themselves? How am I being inconsistent here?

2. Because the Govt.......instead of getting involved in healthcare or insurance........should be legislating what insurance companies can and can not do in the US. THAT is their domain. Yeah, that sorta goes against the very definition of EMERGENCY, doesn't it? But then again, we all know people who use the ER for non-emergencies, as well. Why not label thewse idiots and refuse them service instead?

4. The worry is lessened.........and the amounts willing to be expended on them goes down with each passing year as experience has taught us that spending a ton of money might not achieve all that much more time with them anyway.

5. I do? That's why I normally let me wife take care of most of it? Cuz I'd rather avoid them entirely?

Once again, it sounds irrational at first..........but then we've all seen and know people who claimed to be disabled but really were just scamming the system and ruining it for all.

Insurance companies have adopted the policy of saying 'No' on the first try because they know a certain amount of people will just give up right away rather than deal with them. Science.

Again, there's where Govt legislation would force them to comply or just plain not be licensed to sell insurance.

6. Yeah, as a percentage of his income. I'm talking about what it also cost him for rent, food, transportation, etc etc The COST of LIVING. I read awhile back that college students in Sweden? Norway? had their college paid for.........great? Yet somehow they still had more debt than Americans of the same age group.....because the cost of living was so high.

[merh]

Dec 24, 2021 2:07:22 GMT abbey1227 said:

Dec 23, 2021 21:35:12 GMT merh said:

1-Brian probably sees a dozen people a year who can't afford their deductibles. He's subbosed to do all this charity? Nice you're deciding that when tou argue so fiercely about your tax dollars.

2-why should insurance companies do that?
Spreading it out throws it I to this situation where they might not be liable.
Hell, I remember being on a plan in the early 80s where if one did not call the plan, wait on hold, etc, before going to the ER, they wouldn't pay the bill.

4-you stop worrying about your dogs when they are adult dogs?

5-you like the insurance system.
Once again, Ronnie set in place for people to be denied disability on the first try. A simple pencil pusher couldn't decide an any buy the most obvious of cases. Everything else had to go above to an arbitrator.
You think insurance companies don't do the same thing
Say no.
Hope the patient will accept the no.
Make it hell to get the help one needs.

6-he said he was at the same tax level in both Germany & Frisco. Presumably it was similar.

1. And? Brian and people like him expect ME to pick up the tab.........but they won't take care of it themselves? How am I being inconsistent here?

2. Because the Govt.......instead of getting involved in healthcare or insurance........should be legislating what insurance companies can and can not do in the US. THAT is their domain. Yeah, that sorta goes against the very definition of EMERGENCY, doesn't it? But then again, we all know people who use the ER for non-emergencies, as well. Why not label thewse idiots and refuse them service instead?

4. The worry is lessened.........and the amounts willing to be expended on them goes down with each passing year as experience has taught us that spending a ton of money might not achieve all that much more time with them anyway.

5. I do? That's why I normally let me wife take care of most of it? Cuz I'd rather avoid them entirely?

Once again, it sounds irrational at first..........but then we've all seen and know people who claimed to be disabled but really were just scamming the system and ruining it for all.

Insurance companies have adopted the policy of saying 'No' on the first try because they know a certain amount of people will just give up right away rather than deal with them. Science.

Again, there's where Govt legislation would force them to comply or just plain not be licensed to sell insurance.

6. Yeah, as a percentage of his income. I'm talking about what it also cost him for rent, food, transportation, etc etc The COST of LIVING. I read awhile back that college students in Sweden? Norway? had their college paid for.........great? Yet somehow they still had more debt than Americans of the same age group.....because the cost of living was so high.

expatica.com/de/housing/renting/rent-in-germany-9.

Average rents in Germany are typically described as a cost per square meter.

According to the Federal Institute for Building, Urban and Spatial Research, the apartments in Germany are rented out for an average of €8 a square meter, with prices ranging from around €4 per square meter (Wunsiedel/Vogtlandkreis) to €10 (Berlin) to €16 (Munich).

Thanks to heavy international investment plus an economy that weathered the financial crisis relatively well, Germany’s properties are in demand. Rents are rising across the board. As legislation restricts rental increases for existing tenants, prices are often increased dramatically when a new lease is arranged.

This means that even if you take over a lease from a friend or rent an identical unit in the same building, the rent for the new lease may be much higher. In 2015, rent control laws (Mietpreisbremse) were introduced, but a report by the German Institute for Economic Research in 2018 found that they had only had an effect on a tiny proportion of tenants.

coinmill.com

So €8=$4.63 so per square meter?
Double in Munich?

You ask me when I don't live in Germany?

[merh]

[abbey1227]

Dec 25, 2021 0:58:29 GMT merh said:

What's worse............applauding appreciation in unison?.........or talking at the screen during the film?    

[merh]

Dec 25, 2021 4:38:20 GMT abbey1227 said:

Dec 25, 2021 0:58:29 GMT merh said:

What's worse............applauding appreciation in unison?.........or talking at the screen during the film?    

That's right.
You haven't seen a Marvel movie in a theater.
People clap.
People cheer.

Other than the random rude ass, I haven't come across that many talkers. Worst anymore is babies. Why pay a sitter when you can bring the kid to the movie for free. The loud explosions won't wake it.

Did you see Star Wars in the theater?
Did the audience cheer when Han returned?
That sort of thing.

This self conscious twit is feeling superior to American audiences clapping when certain people show up in the new Spiderman movie
(It was cool)

[abbey1227]

Dec 28, 2021 0:33:10 GMT merh said:

That's right.
You haven't seen a Marvel movie in a theater.
People clap.
People cheer.

Other than the random rude ass, I haven't come across that many talkers. Worst anymore is babies. Why pay a sitter when you can bring the kid to the movie for free. The loud explosions won't wake it.

Did you see Star Wars in the theater?
Did the audience cheer when Han returned?
That sort of thing.

This self conscious twit is feeling superior to American audiences clapping when certain people show up in the new Spiderman movie
(It was cool)

Tom Segura does a whole bit on people bringing babies to movies. "Excuse me, are you killing that baby back there?" No? Well could you? I'm trying to watch this movie."

Can't afford a sitter.........but you can afford a baby? Shows strong planning ability right from the get go.

I did. Walked across the downtown bridge and saw it in the theater. And yes, there was applause.

The last film I saw in theaters was Highlander II. There should have only been one.   

Rentals made watching movies at home the absolute preferred option for me.

[merh]

Dec 28, 2021 2:54:56 GMT abbey1227 said:

Dec 28, 2021 0:33:10 GMT merh said:

That's right.
You haven't seen a Marvel movie in a theater.
People clap.
People cheer.

Other than the random rude ass, I haven't come across that many talkers. Worst anymore is babies. Why pay a sitter when you can bring the kid to the movie for free. The loud explosions won't wake it.

Did you see Star Wars in the theater?
Did the audience cheer when Han returned?
That sort of thing.

This self conscious twit is feeling superior to American audiences clapping when certain people show up in the new Spiderman movie
(It was cool)

Tom Segura does a whole bit on people bringing babies to movies. "Excuse me, are you killing that baby back there?" No? Well could you? I'm trying to watch this movie."

Can't afford a sitter.........but you can afford a baby? Shows strong planning ability right from the get go.

I did. Walked across the downtown bridge and saw it in the theater. And yes, there was applause.

The last film I saw in theaters was Highlander II. There should have only been one.   

Rentals made watching movies at home the absolute preferred option for me.

So, yeah, Star Wars is a huge influence on the Marvel people. That's the experience. One is doing it for oneself, not the moviemakers.

Was it the 2nd movie in Phase 1? They made a point of severing a limb like Luke in Empire Strikes Back.

[merh]

So, dude.

How Often do you wash your jeans?

Jammer is having a cow over the instructions that one should only wash jeans once a month to help the environment.

Because I have heard everything from never to every couple weeks.

Remember when Levi Strauss said never to wash one's jeans?

Some guy wore a pair for 15 months.
There was no more bacteria on them at the end as at the 2 week point.

Denim is magic.

However, joking aside, one imagines cowpokes didn't wash their clothes that often on the trail

WTF PHONE?

Cowpoke is a word!

[merh]

[merh]

Who is it that thinks the world is on the back of a turtle?

[abbey1227]

Dec 28, 2021 22:42:38 GMT merh said:

Who is it that thinks the world is on the back of a turtle?

Native American tribe? Iroquois?

[merh]

Dec 29, 2021 3:42:15 GMT abbey1227 said:

Dec 28, 2021 22:42:38 GMT merh said:

Who is it that thinks the world is on the back of a turtle?

Native American tribe? Iroquois?

The World Turtle, also called the Cosmic Turtle or the World-bearing Turtle, is a mytheme of a giant turtle (or tortoise) supporting or containing the world. It occurs in Hindu mythology, Chinese mythology, and the mythologies of the Indigenous peoples of the Americas. The comparative mythology of the World-Tortoise discussed by Edward Burnett Tylor (1878:341) includes the counterpart World Elephant.

So one can see the relation between China & India, but Native Americans? All this argument about where native Americans came from. Must have had a connection to those myths

[abbey1227]

Dec 29, 2021 14:57:58 GMT merh said:

Dec 29, 2021 3:42:15 GMT abbey1227 said:

Native American tribe? Iroquois?

The World Turtle, also called the Cosmic Turtle or the World-bearing Turtle, is a mytheme of a giant turtle (or tortoise) supporting or containing the world. It occurs in Hindu mythology, Chinese mythology, and the mythologies of the Indigenous peoples of the Americas. The comparative mythology of the World-Tortoise discussed by Edward Burnett Tylor (1878:341) includes the counterpart World Elephant.

So one can see the relation between China & India, but Native Americans? All this argument about where native Americans came from. Must have had a connection to those myths

well, of course.

That's my first thought, too. It started in the Far East and migrated it's way over into North America

The various groups are a good example of evolution and how environment can alter species in a relatively short amount of time.