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Post by abbey1227 on Jul 24, 2021 0:58:05 GMT
U.S.
Pioneer Press, St. Paul, Minn.
Charges: Illegal immigrant, angry at former landlady, raped her in her St. Paul home
Jul. 23—A Minneapolis man was charged Thursday with brutally raping his former St. Paul landlady because he was angry that she refused to let his girlfriend move in with him. Rolando Lopez-Meneses, 23, was charged with one count of first-degree criminal sexual conduct and one count of first-degree burglary. He is believed to be in the country illegally, police said.
U.S.
Pioneer Press, St. Paul, Minn.
Man, angry at former landlady, raped her in her St. Paul home, charges say
Jul. 23—A Minneapolis man was charged Thursday with raping his former St. Paul landlady because he was angry that she refused to let his girlfriend move in with him. Rolando Lopez-Meneses, 23, was charged with one count of first-degree criminal sexual conduct and one count of first-degree burglary. He is believed to be in the country illegally, police said.
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It appears there's a 2 hour difference between those two headline choices.
Then there's this sob story that could just as easily be a piece about all the suffering landlords that have been getting stiffed for the last year...........
Politics
Business Insider
6 million renters face eviction in 8 days when a Trump-era ban expires. Biden is poised to let it happen.
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Post by Prometheus on Jul 24, 2021 1:39:53 GMT
Do you have links?
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Post by abbey1227 on Jul 24, 2021 1:49:08 GMT
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Post by Prometheus on Jul 24, 2021 8:36:46 GMT
Interesting.
I was expecting two different articles from two different authors or - should they be the same article - that the "more offensive" one would have been deleted.
That leads me to the conclusion that the editor purposely chose to run the same story with 2 different headlines in order to maximize clicks by provoking "both sides" to access the story.
Smart cookie.
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Post by abbey1227 on Jul 27, 2021 3:27:54 GMT
Interesting.
I was expecting two different articles from two different authors or - should they be the same article - that the "more offensive" one would have been deleted.
That leads me to the conclusion that the editor purposely chose to run the same story with 2 different headlines in order to maximize clicks by provoking "both sides" to access the story.
Smart cookie.
Smart?
or maybe an indicator of the editing by the woke that goes on after the fact now? And a display of the sloppiness of journalism today?
Or, as you say, it could just be the spin placed on everything in order to garner more clicks.
Any wonder why media trust is at all time lows?
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Post by Prometheus on Jul 27, 2021 4:45:41 GMT
Interesting.
I was expecting two different articles from two different authors or - should they be the same article - that the "more offensive" one would have been deleted.
That leads me to the conclusion that the editor purposely chose to run the same story with 2 different headlines in order to maximize clicks by provoking "both sides" to access the story.
Smart cookie.
Smart?
or maybe an indicator of the editing by the woke that goes on after the fact now? And a display of the sloppiness of journalism today?
Or, as you say, it could just be the spin placed on everything in order to garner more clicks.
Any wonder why media trust is at all time lows?
As long as the information presented in the body of the article is factual, the headline shouldn't matter.
The news media has always been driven by advertising, whether that be commercial slots during the 6:00 news on TV, page-fraction ads in newsprint, or banner ads on the internet.
However, it is only with the internet that running different headlines for the same content is economically feasible. I suspect that we all do pretty much the same thing here on the board: we type a subject line to provoke the other members to click on the thread.
Years ago on the original boards, there was a poster called, "Astropolis." He wrote the most brilliant subject lines and was probably the most-read poster of his time.
Smart
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Post by abbey1227 on Jul 27, 2021 4:51:23 GMT
As long as the information presented in the body of the article is factual, the headline shouldn't matter.
The news media has always been driven by advertising, whether that be commercial slots during the 6:00 news on TV, page-fraction ads in newsprint, or banner ads on the internet.
However, it is only with the internet that running different headlines for the same content is economically feasible. I suspect that we all do pretty much the same thing here on the board: we type a subject line to provoke the other members to click on the thread.
Years ago on the original boards, there was a poster called, "Astropolis." He wrote the most brilliant subject lines and was probably the most-read poster of his time.
Smart
I'd disagree........since reading is not really all that fundamental anymore. The headline might be the only thing the average person takes away/remembers.
I adopted that policy of selecting as snarky and ridiculous a thought as I could in order to replicate what I was seeing in the media the last few decades.
What made them brilliant?
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Post by Prometheus on Jul 27, 2021 5:30:56 GMT
As long as the information presented in the body of the article is factual, the headline shouldn't matter.
The news media has always been driven by advertising, whether that be commercial slots during the 6:00 news on TV, page-fraction ads in newsprint, or banner ads on the internet.
However, it is only with the internet that running different headlines for the same content is economically feasible. I suspect that we all do pretty much the same thing here on the board: we type a subject line to provoke the other members to click on the thread.
Years ago on the original boards, there was a poster called, "Astropolis." He wrote the most brilliant subject lines and was probably the most-read poster of his time.
Smart
I'd disagree........since reading is not really all that fundamental anymore. The headline might be the only thing the average person takes away/remembers.
I adopted that policy of selecting as snarky and ridiculous a thought as I could in order to replicate what I was seeing in the media the last few decades.
What made them brilliant?
1. You have a point about people not reading the content. I just caught you doing it in another thread.
2&3. The news media is a for-profit industry. Being able to maximize profitability is necessary. Issuing the same content with different headlines maximizes clicks and ad revenue. Brilliant.
What's so hard to understand?
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Post by abbey1227 on Jul 27, 2021 5:35:37 GMT
2&3. The news media is a for-profit industry. Being able to maximize profitability is necessary. Issuing the same content with different headlines maximizes clicks and ad revenue. Brilliant.
What's so hard to understand?
I have this completely silly and naive expectation that the News will simply report on Who, What, Where, When and Why without any real bias.
I know, that's on me.
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Post by Prometheus on Jul 27, 2021 6:10:55 GMT
2&3. The news media is a for-profit industry. Being able to maximize profitability is necessary. Issuing the same content with different headlines maximizes clicks and ad revenue. Brilliant.
What's so hard to understand?
I have this completely silly and naive expectation that the News will simply report on Who, What, Where, When and Why without any real bias.
I know, that's on me.
From the look of the article, the news was reported according to your standard.
Your only problem is with the headline and I'm guessing that you prefer the first one because it promotes hatred of illegals by suggesting that one crime has something to do with the other.
I'm betting that you don't like the second version because you'd actually have to read the article to find out the alleged perpetrator's citizenship status and people who just read headlines aren't learning to hate the right people.
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Post by abbey1227 on Jul 27, 2021 6:22:11 GMT
From the look of the article, the news was reported according to your standard.
Your only problem is with the headline and I'm guessing that you prefer the first one because it promotes hatred of illegals by suggesting that one crime has something to do with the other.
I'm betting that you don't like the second version because you'd actually have to read the article to find out the alleged perpetrator's citizenship status and people who just read headlines aren't learning to hate the right people.
Actually I do prefer the first one.......but not for the reason you state. Simply because it's accurate and doesn't use a form of soft words to push an agenda or opt for the more frequent maneuver of just omitting facts. Being illegal does lead to other crimes in many instances.
The US has more than enough crime from it's own citizens, so inviting more from outsiders seems foolish, imo.
Whether the person was male or female, black or white or red or brown, age, high or sober, a felon or first timer Illegal or citizen, etc etc all goes into the facts that should matter in the story.
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Post by Prometheus on Jul 27, 2021 6:28:48 GMT
From the look of the article, the news was reported according to your standard.
Your only problem is with the headline and I'm guessing that you prefer the first one because it promotes hatred of illegals by suggesting that one crime has something to do with the other.
I'm betting that you don't like the second version because you'd actually have to read the article to find out the alleged perpetrator's citizenship status and people who just read headlines aren't learning to hate the right people.
Actually I do prefer the first one.......but not for the reason you state. Simply because it's accurate and doesn't use a form of soft words to push an agenda or opt for the more frequent maneuver of just omitting facts. Being illegal does lead to other crimes in many instances.
The US has more than enough crime from it's own citizens, so inviting more from outsiders seems foolish, imo.
Whether the person was male or female, black or white or red or brown, age, high or sober, a felon or first timer Illegal or citizen, etc etc all goes into the facts that should matter in the story.
The facts were in the story.
What you're saying is that a woman being raped is less important than a woman being raped by an illegal because of your agenda.
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Post by abbey1227 on Jul 27, 2021 6:34:36 GMT
The facts were in the story.
What you're saying is that a woman being raped is less important than a woman being raped by an illegal because of your agenda.
No.
I'm saying one crime is bad. Two crimes is worse. And three crimes is worse still. ![[giveup]](//storage.proboards.com/7182076/images/FSYefibmKqtatIXMgHZg.gif) |
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Post by Prometheus on Jul 27, 2021 16:13:24 GMT
The facts were in the story.
What you're saying is that a woman being raped is less important than a woman being raped by an illegal because of your agenda.
No.
I'm saying one crime is bad. Two crimes is worse. And three crimes is worse still.   Don't lie, Abs. The only point you want to make is that if this illegal immigrant had not been in the country, then the landlady wouldn't have been raped.
If the guy had been a Green Card holder you would have questioned the vetting process.
If the guy had been a natural born citizen you wouldn't give a fuck.
As for the last sentence, you would use it as your defense of not being racist: "I don't care what race the rapist was..."
But we all know that you DO care. You want to highlight each and every misstep by each and every "illegal" to try to make everyone hate them as much as you do despite the fact that illegal immigrants have a lower crime rate than legal immigrants... or natural citizens. FTM.
"But, but the fact tat they are "illegal" already makes the criminals!"
Yup. But that aside, they aren't as bad as our own citizens or the people we let in legally. THAT is a FACT.
Ditch your racism for a minute.
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Post by abbey1227 on Jul 28, 2021 4:18:50 GMT
Don't lie, Abs. The only point you want to make is that if this illegal immigrant had not been in the country, then the landlady wouldn't have been raped.
If the guy had been a Green Card holder you would have questioned the vetting process.
If the guy had been a natural born citizen you wouldn't give a fuck. As for the last sentence, you would use it as your defense of not being racist: "I don't care what race the rapist was..."
But we all know that you DO care. You want to highlight each and every misstep by each and every "illegal" to try to make everyone hate them as much as you do despite the fact that illegal immigrants have a lower crime rate than legal immigrants... or natural citizens. FTM.
"But, but the fact tat they are "illegal" already makes the criminals!" Yup. But that aside, they aren't as bad as our own citizens or the people we let in legally. THAT is a FACT.
Ditch your racism for a minute.
She wouldn't have been raped by THAT person. How is that not something to totally agree upon?
Yeah, cuz I'm totally OK with rape just so long as it's one our ours doing it. ![[rolleye1]](//storage.proboards.com/7182076/images/MTjbungPBOzv0BKQvdPJ.gif) WTF is wrong with you?
I wouldn't even classify it as 'hate' like you do. I completely understand why people come here illegally. It's the land of opportunity. I just take issue with them doing so illegally. And I'm more so pissed off at a Govt that chooses to not enforce laws on the books. The slime won't even remove those laws........they just ignore them.
And you can't even trust crime statistics anymore, FFS.
I'll even give you that statistical fact if you'll move on from it and just admit that having EXTRA criminals here leads to ADDITIONAL crimes. That's a pretty basic thing to acknowledge, isn't it?
Race ain't got nothing to do with it for the umpteenth time. I'm against all of the pale Illegals being here, too and you're fully aware of that.
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Post by Prometheus on Jul 28, 2021 11:34:56 GMT
Don't lie, Abs. The only point you want to make is that if this illegal immigrant had not been in the country, then the landlady wouldn't have been raped.
If the guy had been a Green Card holder you would have questioned the vetting process.
If the guy had been a natural born citizen you wouldn't give a fuck. As for the last sentence, you would use it as your defense of not being racist: "I don't care what race the rapist was..."
But we all know that you DO care. You want to highlight each and every misstep by each and every "illegal" to try to make everyone hate them as much as you do despite the fact that illegal immigrants have a lower crime rate than legal immigrants... or natural citizens. FTM.
"But, but the fact tat they are "illegal" already makes the criminals!" Yup. But that aside, they aren't as bad as our own citizens or the people we let in legally. THAT is a FACT.
Ditch your racism for a minute.
She wouldn't have been raped by THAT person. How is that not something to totally agree upon?
Yeah, cuz I'm totally OK with rape just so long as it's one our ours doing it. WTF is wrong with you?
I wouldn't even classify it as 'hate' like you do. I completely understand why people come here illegally. It's the land of opportunity. I just take issue with them doing so illegally. And I'm more so pissed off at a Govt that chooses to not enforce laws on the books. The slime won't even remove those laws........they just ignore them.
And you can't even trust crime statistics anymore, FFS.
I'll even give you that statistical fact if you'll move on from it and just admit that having EXTRA criminals here leads to ADDITIONAL crimes. That's a pretty basic thing to acknowledge, isn't it?
Race ain't got nothing to do with it for the umpteenth time. I'm against all of the pale Illegals being here, too and you're fully aware of that.
And if the rapist was named "Bill Anderson" from Alberta, Canada I doubt you would have cared about the article or its two headlines, but " Rolando Lopez-Meneses" certainly caught your attention.
And you couldn't trust crime statistics before either. Juking the stats isn't some new phenomenon. You only care about it now because some black people aren't going to jail for as long as you'd like, while your Q-Anon buddies are actually going to jail.
And let's not forget that you complain about there being too many laws in the first place but when it comes to enforcing laws that systematically affect POC at a higher rate, you want to know why they aren't being strictly enforced.
You want walls on the southern border but not the northern one even though that's the border where terrorists walked right through and killed thousands of Americans.
You never talk about drugs and human trafficking at shipping ports that are woefully understaffed because everyone's been relocated to the southern boarder... right where you want them.
You don't like it when people talk about the detention centers under Trump but you sure as hell want to remind people that they were there under Obama - the guy who "did nothing for black people."
And when the detention centers get too full in one place, you get all bent out of shape that the detainees are being transported to other locations: "Oh noes. The government is using government facilities to do government work!"
You get pissed when they don't do their job. You get pissed when they do their job.
Mostly you just seem worried that your drone job might eventually go to a brown person who managed to get refugee status and a Green Card.
You can tell me over and over that that's not the person you are at all, but it sure as hell is what comes across when you type.
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Post by abbey1227 on Jul 28, 2021 13:22:52 GMT
And if the rapist was named "Bill Anderson" from Alberta, Canada I doubt you would have cared about the article or its two headlines, but " Rolando Lopez-Meneses" certainly caught your attention.
And you couldn't trust crime statistics before either. Juking the stats isn't some new phenomenon. You only care about it now because some black people aren't going to jail for as long as you'd like, while your Q-Anon buddies are actually going to jail.
And let's not forget that you complain about there being too many laws in the first place but when it comes to enforcing laws that systematically affect POC at a higher rate, you want to know why they aren't being strictly enforced.
You want walls on the southern border but not the northern one even though that's the border where terrorists walked right through and killed thousands of Americans.
You never talk about drugs and human trafficking at shipping ports that are woefully understaffed because everyone's been relocated to the southern boarder... right where you want them.
You don't like it when people talk about the detention centers under Trump but you sure as hell want to remind people that they were there under Obama - the guy who "did nothing for black people."
And when the detention centers get too full in one place, you get all bent out of shape that the detainees are being transported to other locations: "Oh noes. The government is using government facilities to do government work!"
You get pissed when they don't do their job. You get pissed when they do their job.
Mostly you just seem worried that your drone job might eventually go to a brown person who managed to get refugee status and a Green Card.
You can tell me over and over that that's not the person you are at all, but it sure as hell is what comes across when you type.
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Post by mrright on Jul 30, 2021 14:21:42 GMT
why did she rent to an invader?
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WTF is wrong with you?
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