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Post by abbey1227 on Jun 25, 2021 13:05:53 GMT
As Canada.......and now apparently the US........ are doing some introspection and actual inspections on these properties....... any thoughts, feelings, opinions on the matter?
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Post by Prometheus on Jun 26, 2021 4:17:54 GMT
See what happens when you try to force cultural assimilation on people?
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Post by abbey1227 on Jun 26, 2021 12:10:39 GMT
See what happens when you try to force cultural assimilation on people?
In a way, it's funny to me as I've been seeing recent calls for more aid/help on reservations with domestic violence and drug abuse.........and I think "Aren't they sovereign nations?"
This is yet another subject where I find my self NOT defending the past.........but merely acknowledging it, believing a lot of other people suffered as well and gosh darn by comparison, the country doesn't seem nearly so bad today, now does it?
There's also the age olde argument for completely wiping out your enemies/conquests instead of bothering to try assimilation.
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Post by ant-mac on Jun 26, 2021 12:45:16 GMT
See what happens when you try to force cultural assimilation on people?  |
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Post by Prometheus on Jun 26, 2021 14:54:46 GMT
See what happens when you try to force cultural assimilation on people?
In a way, it's funny to me as I've been seeing recent calls for more aid/help on reservations with domestic violence and drug abuse.........and I think "Aren't they sovereign nations?"
This is yet another subject where I find my self NOT defending the past.........but merely acknowledging it, believing a lot of other people suffered as well and gosh darn by comparison, the country doesn't seem nearly so bad today, now does it?
There's also the age olde argument for completely wiping out your enemies/conquests instead of bothering to try assimilation.
1. SMFH
2. The "past" was only 50 years ago.
3. And there's a vote for genocide from the guy who says he's not a racist....
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Post by abbey1227 on Jun 26, 2021 15:08:28 GMT
1. SMFH
2. The "past" was only 50 years ago.
3. And there's a vote for genocide from the guy who says he's not a racist....
1. Your neck must be awfully sore at this point
2. Ya kidding? We're going back hundreds of years to find offense
3. What's race got to do with it? Again, you see what you wanna see. Shakespeare and other authors even older told stories of battles won, only to be lost later to the surviving members of the defeated.
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Post by Prometheus on Jun 26, 2021 15:17:34 GMT
1. SMFH
2. The "past" was only 50 years ago.
3. And there's a vote for genocide from the guy who says he's not a racist....
1. Your neck must be awfully sore at this point
2. Ya kidding? We're going back hundreds of years to find offense
3. What's race got to do with it? Again, you see what you wanna see. Shakespeare and other authors even older told stories of battles won, only to be lost later to the surviving members of the defeated.
1. It's great exercise actually 2. Read the article. Some of those kids died as recently as 1970 or thereabouts.
3. Genocide is racism by definition no matter which famous person suggests it.
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Post by abbey1227 on Jun 26, 2021 15:29:57 GMT
1. It's great exercise actually 2. Read the article. Some of those kids died as recently as 1970 or thereabouts.
3. Genocide is racism by definition no matter which famous person suggests it.
1. You must look like Tom Hardy as Bane at this point
2. THAT's recent? Look, I realize it ain't ancient history........but it's still decades ago. I was surprised as anyone to learn that Canada was actually shitting on their 'First Nation' people even longer than the US was........but....... ![[giveup]](//storage.proboards.com/7182076/images/FSYefibmKqtatIXMgHZg.gif) People do shitty things to other people all over the planet to this day. You oughta know better than most.
3. Isn't it possible for genocide to be committed by two groups of the same race? Definitions really don't stand the test of time like they used to either.
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Post by Prometheus on Jun 26, 2021 15:40:55 GMT
1. It's great exercise actually 2. Read the article. Some of those kids died as recently as 1970 or thereabouts.
3. Genocide is racism by definition no matter which famous person suggests it.
1. You must look like Tom Hardy as Bane at this point
2. THAT's recent? Look, I realize it ain't ancient history........but it's still decades ago. I was surprised as anyone to learn that Canada was actually shitting on their 'First Nation' people even longer than the US was........but....... People do shitty things to other people all over the planet to this day. You oughta know better than most.
3. Isn't it possible for genocide to be committed by two groups of the same race? Definitions really don't stand the test of time like they used to either.
1. oh yeah
2. Considering that recorded history is about 6,000 years old, 50 years is pretty recent.
And the "other people do it" is a shitty response, especially from the guy who denies that our government can do better even though "other people do it."
3. Definitions?
Oh. You want the dictionary again, do you?
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Post by abbey1227 on Jun 26, 2021 15:50:05 GMT
1. You must look like Tom Hardy as Bane at this point
2. THAT's recent? Look, I realize it ain't ancient history........but it's still decades ago. I was surprised as anyone to learn that Canada was actually shitting on their 'First Nation' people even longer than the US was........but....... People do shitty things to other people all over the planet to this day. You oughta know better than most.
3. Isn't it possible for genocide to be committed by two groups of the same race? Definitions really don't stand the test of time like they used to either.
1. oh yeah
2. Considering that recorded history is about 6,000 years old, 50 years is pretty recent.
And the "other people do it" is a shitty response, especially from the guy who denies that our government can do better even though "other people do it."
3. Definitions?
Oh. You want the dictionary again, do you?
2. And human history of death and misery is a lot older than that. AND? What part of "The US Govt is pretty F'n corrupt and vile" are you doubting? That was BEFORE and AFTER Trump, too. Didn't see much call for 'yielding to Govt' from 2016-2020, though.
3. HUMAN race. Dude........ you keep forgetting I don't like it overall........but I sure as shit don't care about the shades it has split into over the years. It's irrelevant to me. I realize others embrace it as a stupid reason to hate, but that's their issue, not mine. Now......... I'll just repeat myself, people within the SAME subset of race can kill each other, right? During the skirmish in Bosnia and Herzegovina.......many of them were practically kissing cousins...........same DNA lines, just a different religion. Yet they still started a war.
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Post by Prometheus on Jun 27, 2021 0:51:08 GMT
1. oh yeah
2. Considering that recorded history is about 6,000 years old, 50 years is pretty recent.
And the "other people do it" is a shitty response, especially from the guy who denies that our government can do better even though "other people do it."
3. Definitions?
Oh. You want the dictionary again, do you?
2. And human history of death and misery is a lot older than that. AND? What part of "The US Govt is pretty F'n corrupt and vile" are you doubting? That was BEFORE and AFTER Trump, too. Didn't see much call for 'yielding to Govt' from 2016-2020, though.
3. HUMAN race. Dude........ you keep forgetting I don't like it overall........but I sure as shit don't care about the shades it has split into over the years. It's irrelevant to me. I realize others embrace it as a stupid reason to hate, but that's their issue, not mine. Now......... I'll just repeat myself, people within the SAME subset of race can kill each other, right? During the skirmish in Bosnia and Herzegovina.......many of them were practically kissing cousins...........same DNA lines, just a different religion. Yet they still started a war.
2. And I explained that it's a poor excuse. If you don't like the government, you have three choices: 1. Shut up and deal with it 2. Become politically active: run or work for a candidate 3. Leave
3. Yet most people (including you) aren't talking about the human race. You're certainly not talking about the whole human race when you mention annihilating the conquered, which you implied was a valid method for avoiding the "hassle" of assimilation.
As for Bosnia, you'd have to tell me which "skirmish" (which is not a genocide) you're talking about because (other than the war in the 90's) all I can recall is some rioting due to poverty caused by privatization. |
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Post by abbey1227 on Jun 27, 2021 1:41:04 GMT
2. And I explained that it's a poor excuse. If you don't like the government, you have three choices: 1. Shut up and deal with it 2. Become politically active: run or work for a candidate 3. Leave
3. Yet most people (including you) aren't talking about the human race. You're certainly not talking about the whole human race when you mention annihilating the conquered, which you implied was a valid method for avoiding the "hassle" of assimilation.
As for Bosnia, you'd have to tell me which "skirmish" (which is not a genocide) you're talking about because (other than the war in the 90's) all I can recall is some rioting due to poverty caused by privatization.
2. That's just like............your opinion, man.
So I just need to shut up? People are no longer allowed to gripe? You have been over there too long.
3. What I stated was a way to insure you did not have to deal with similar issues in the future should you declare war. How many Neanderthals do you hear whining these days? (Present company excluded, of course)
Other than the war in the 90s? SMFH right back atcha
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Post by Prometheus on Jun 27, 2021 9:14:08 GMT
2. And I explained that it's a poor excuse. If you don't like the government, you have three choices: 1. Shut up and deal with it 2. Become politically active: run or work for a candidate 3. Leave
3. Yet most people (including you) aren't talking about the human race. You're certainly not talking about the whole human race when you mention annihilating the conquered, which you implied was a valid method for avoiding the "hassle" of assimilation.
As for Bosnia, you'd have to tell me which "skirmish" (which is not a genocide) you're talking about because (other than the war in the 90's) all I can recall is some rioting due to poverty caused by privatization.
2. That's just like............your opinion, man.
So I just need to shut up? People are no longer allowed to gripe? You have been over there too long.
3. What I stated was a way to insure you did not have to deal with similar issues in the future should you declare war. How many Neanderthals do you hear whining these days? (Present company excluded, of course)
Other than the war in the 90s? SMFH right back atcha
2. Gripe all you like. Just know that you're not doing so in a vacuum
3. Neanderthals were most likely wiped out due to their inability to compete for resources and their inability to adapt to climate changes, not by being wiped out by Homo Sapiens in any sort of war. There are these things called, "books." Sometimes they can be expensive to buy, but there are also places called, "libraries" which will let you read the books for free. You say that you have 3 days off per week, I'm sure you can find the time to visit. Please wear your mask. The war in the 90's was not the Bosnians vs Herzogovinians, therefore I dismissed it out of hand. SMFH some more. |
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Post by abbey1227 on Jun 27, 2021 11:52:12 GMT
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![[giveup]](http://storage.proboards.com/7182076/images/FSYefibmKqtatIXMgHZg.gif)
People do shitty things to other people all over the planet to this day. You oughta know better than most.![[cheers]](http://storage.proboards.com/7182076/images/engyBVslEdpmpmdnBwZQ.gif)
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