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Did Democratic Mayoral Candidates Guess a Brooklyn Home Costs $100K?
Only one candidate guessed correctly.
Nur Ibrahim Published 12 May 2021

In June 2021, New York City will hold its mayoral election primaries to select a Democratic and Republican candidate for mayor. On May 10, The New York Times sat down with the Democratic candidates and asked them a number of questions about the city. And some of them appeared to not know enough.

Democratic candidate Shaun Donovan, the former housing secretary under President Barack Obama, had this exchange with New York Times editorial board member Mara Gay. He guessed that the median cost of buying a home in Brooklyn was $100,000.

Mara Gay: Thanks. Do you happen to know what the median sales price for a home is in Brooklyn right now?

In Brooklyn, huh? I don’t for sure. I would guess it is around $100,000.

Mara Gay: It’s $900,000.

Median home? Including apartments?

[Mr. Donovan later emailed to say that his $100,000 answer referred to the assessed value of homes in Brooklyn. “I really don’t think you can buy a house in Brooklyn today for that little,” he wrote.]

Mara Gay: All of it, yeah.

The median sales price for a home in Brooklyn was indeed up to $900,000 at the time of this writing. The average sales price is almost $1 million.

Another Democratic candidate Ray McGuire, who was a longtime investment banker and former Citigroup executive, had a similar answer:

Mara Gay: Thanks. And just answer this to the best of your ability, obviously. What is the median sales price for a home or apartment in Brooklyn?

In Brooklyn, that number has gone up now. It depends on where in Brooklyn.

Mara Gay: Just average for the borough, the median.

It’s got to be somewhere in the $80,000 to $90,000 range, if not higher.

Mara Gay: The median sales price for a home in Brooklyn is $900,000.

Nine hundred. I ——

Mara Gay: What ——

I’m sorry.

Both candidates severely underestimated the sales price of a home in Brooklyn, resulting in mockery and criticism online.

Only one Democratic candidate guessed correctly: Andrew Yang. The others differed in their responses. Eric Adams, the Brooklyn borough president, said he believed the number was around $550,000. Maya Wiley, former counsel to current Mayor Bill de Blasio, said $1.8 million. Kathryn Garcia, a former sanitation commissioner, guessed $800,000, while Dianne Morales, a former nonprofit executive, said $500,000, and Scott M. Stringer, the city comptroller, said $1 million.

Given that the interviews quote them directly, we rate these claims as “True.”

www.snopes.com/fact-check/new-york-mayor-brooklyn-house/

[Prometheus]

He was also Commissioner of the New York City Department of Housing Preservation and Development from 2004 to 2009 under Mayor Michael Bloomberg while Bloomberg was a Republican.

"He was credited with creating the department's Marketplace Plan to build and preserve over 160,000 affordable homes, which was the largest city-sponsored affordable housing plan in US history."

"While Secretary [of HUD], Donovan oversaw the allocation of 75% of HUD's share of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act within one week of the bill's passage.

That was the stimulus package that actually dug us out of the "Great Recession" and gave Trump the wonderful numbers he laid claim to on his inauguration day. Fun Fact: the ARRA included a "Buy American" provision which was clearly "protectionist" long before Donnie Dimwit got to Pennsylvania Avenue.

The guy got a question wrong. Unless you're a resident of NYC, I'm not sure why you give a fuck.

Actually, I know why you give a fuck... but it's a stupid reason so I'm being nice.

[abbey1227]

May 13, 2021 3:31:52 GMT Prometheus said:

He was also Commissioner of the New York City Department of Housing Preservation and Development from 2004 to 2009 under Mayor Michael Bloomberg while Bloomberg was a Republican.

"He was credited with creating the department's Marketplace Plan to build and preserve over 160,000 affordable homes, which was the largest city-sponsored affordable housing plan in US history."

"While Secretary [of HUD], Donovan oversaw the allocation of 75% of HUD's share of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act within one week of the bill's passage.

That was the stimulus package that actually dug us out of the "Great Recession" and gave Trump the wonderful numbers he laid claim to on his inauguration day. Fun Fact: the ARRA included a "Buy American" provision which was clearly "protectionist" long before Donnie Dimwit got to Pennsylvania Avenue.

The guy got a question wrong. Unless you're a resident of NYC, I'm not sure why you give a fuck.

Actually, I know why you give a fuck... but it's a stupid reason so I'm being nice.

Some of the regulars on the other board are residents of NYC, Philadelphia and near DC........ so an official involved in housing should be aware of what regular people are paying for homes.......otherwise they look idiotic and out of touch in their mansions and limousines. There's also the little matter of 'affordability'.........if the only way it's affordable is with rent control, then it's a complete waste of tax dollars, imo.

Also my opinion, Bloomberg was hardly a Republican........unless you're counting people like the Cheneys as real conservatives.

[Prometheus]

May 13, 2021 12:54:17 GMT abbey1227 said:

May 13, 2021 3:31:52 GMT Prometheus said:

He was also Commissioner of the New York City Department of Housing Preservation and Development from 2004 to 2009 under Mayor Michael Bloomberg while Bloomberg was a Republican.

"He was credited with creating the department's Marketplace Plan to build and preserve over 160,000 affordable homes, which was the largest city-sponsored affordable housing plan in US history."

"While Secretary [of HUD], Donovan oversaw the allocation of 75% of HUD's share of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act within one week of the bill's passage.

That was the stimulus package that actually dug us out of the "Great Recession" and gave Trump the wonderful numbers he laid claim to on his inauguration day. Fun Fact: the ARRA included a "Buy American" provision which was clearly "protectionist" long before Donnie Dimwit got to Pennsylvania Avenue.

The guy got a question wrong. Unless you're a resident of NYC, I'm not sure why you give a fuck.

Actually, I know why you give a fuck... but it's a stupid reason so I'm being nice.

Some of the regulars on the other board are residents of NYC, Philadelphia and near DC........ so an official involved in housing should be aware of what regular people are paying for homes.......otherwise they look idiotic and out of touch in their mansions and limousines. There's also the little matter of 'affordability'.........if the only way it's affordable is with rent control, then it's a complete waste of tax dollars, imo.

Also my opinion, Bloomberg was hardly a Republican........unless you're counting people like the Cheneys as real conservatives.

While I agree that his knowledge (specific to NYC) should have been better, I don't fault anyone for not knowing housing prices in every neighborhood of a huge city all the time.

"Rent control"
Am I to understand that you want more homeless on the streets?

As for Bloomberg... Yeah he's not nearly racist enough to be a real Republican.

[abbey1227]

May 14, 2021 4:20:01 GMT Prometheus said:

While I agree that his knowledge (specific to NYC) should have been better, I don't fault anyone for not knowing housing prices in every neighborhood of a huge city all the time.

"Rent control"
Am I to understand that you want more homeless on the streets?

As for Bloomberg... Yeah he's not nearly racist enough to be a real Republican.

I'd have been OK if he had guess 'High'........but low? Prices have gone up in just the last few years. It's a crazy market right now.

I want the Govt out of such things altogether. All it does it create more headaches and corruption. Maybe if they were indeed worried about the homeless........they'd stop favoring all the Illegals and let Americans use those facilities and resources instead? I know.....the answer is always $More $More $More

Does he live in an especially diverse hood? Are many on the Left all that non-racist? They seem to have a hate on for everyone white.......or at least insist on whites feeling guilty for everything. Not sure who is worse now......the white? or the other colors that lean that way?

I was listening to a young black woman screaming at her local schoolboard just yesterday for all of this woke. 1619 BS.........cuz her children are bi-racial and she's sick of hearing how kids should be identifying and feeling about their racial background.

I mentioned it before........you go back far enough.........and we're ALL related.

[Prometheus]

May 14, 2021 14:44:49 GMT abbey1227 said:

May 14, 2021 4:20:01 GMT Prometheus said:

While I agree that his knowledge (specific to NYC) should have been better, I don't fault anyone for not knowing housing prices in every neighborhood of a huge city all the time.

"Rent control"
Am I to understand that you want more homeless on the streets?

As for Bloomberg... Yeah he's not nearly racist enough to be a real Republican.

I'd have been OK if he had guess 'High'........but low? Prices have gone up in just the last few years. It's a crazy market right now.

I want the Govt out of such things altogether. All it does it create more headaches and corruption. Maybe if they were indeed worried about the homeless........they'd stop favoring all the Illegals and let Americans use those facilities and resources instead? I know.....the answer is always $More $More $More

Does he live in an especially diverse hood? Are many on the Left all that non-racist? They seem to have a hate on for everyone white.......or at least insist on whites feeling guilty for everything. Not sure who is worse now......the white? or the other colors that lean that way?

I was listening to a young black woman screaming at her local schoolboard just yesterday for all of this woke. 1619 BS.........cuz her children are bi-racial and she's sick of hearing how kids should be identifying and feeling about their racial background.

I mentioned it before........you go back far enough.........and we're ALL related.

1. Whatever.

2.

3. Irrelevant to anything I said.

4. Irrelevant

5. And yet you still seem to not want to help your tribe

[abbey1227]

May 15, 2021 3:25:08 GMT Prometheus said:

5. And yet you still seem to not want to help your tribe

Who is my tribe?

I consider helping allowing people the freedom to learn and improve.........not enabling generation after generation.

[Prometheus]

May 15, 2021 12:15:26 GMT abbey1227 said:

May 15, 2021 3:25:08 GMT Prometheus said:

5. And yet you still seem to not want to help your tribe

Who is my tribe?

I consider helping allowing people the freedom to learn and improve.........not enabling generation after generation.

You just said that we're ALL related. The human race is your tribe. You can't help them all, but you can help your neighbor-cousin.

[abbey1227]

May 16, 2021 0:50:02 GMT Prometheus said:

May 15, 2021 12:15:26 GMT abbey1227 said:

Who is my tribe?

I consider helping allowing people the freedom to learn and improve.........not enabling generation after generation.

You just said that we're ALL related. The human race is your tribe. You can't help them all, but you can help your neighbor-cousin.

I'd like to become emancipated then.

You can't help them all, as many will refuse or subvert the help even if it's available.

This is sorta the same notion I have towards public education. Now here again, some people support this 'No child left behind' nonsense........whereas I believe it's more prudent and successful to narrow the focus and reward on merit.

Just gotta let some slip thru the cracks........cuz that's where they wanna be.

[Prometheus]

May 16, 2021 1:14:35 GMT abbey1227 said:

May 16, 2021 0:50:02 GMT Prometheus said:

You just said that we're ALL related. The human race is your tribe. You can't help them all, but you can help your neighbor-cousin.

I'd like to become emancipated then.

You can't help them all, as many will refuse or subvert the help even if it's available.

This is sorta the same notion I have towards public education. Now here again, some people support this 'No child left behind' nonsense........whereas I believe it's more prudent and successful to narrow the focus and reward on merit.

Just gotta let some slip thru the cracks........cuz that's where they wanna be.

I'm not asking you to help them all, just one neighbor-cousin (and by extension their family). And I'd ask that your wife help a different neighbor-cousin. And then I'd ask them to help two more, and so on....

I'm not asking you to pay their rent or their bills. I'm just asking you to lend them a hand: offer to cut their grass for free because your neighbor-cousin is an 80-year-old woman using a walker. Offer to play catch because your neighbor-cousin is an 8-year-old kid and all the other neighborhood kids are older and won't play with him. Maybe just invite the couple next door over for some steaks, hot off the grill, because you saw your neighbor-cousin having to take items out of their cart at the grocery store.

I've seen you talk about how we've lost that "good neighbor" vibe that we recall from childhood. Be the one to bring it back.

[abbey1227]

May 17, 2021 4:09:50 GMT Prometheus said:

I'm not asking you to help them all, just one neighbor-cousin (and by extension their family). And I'd ask that your wife help a different neighbor-cousin. And then I'd ask them to help two more, and so on....

I'm not asking you to pay their rent or their bills. I'm just asking you to lend them a hand: offer to cut their grass for free because your neighbor-cousin is an 80-year-old woman using a walker. Offer to play catch because your neighbor-cousin is an 8-year-old kid and all the other neighborhood kids are older and won't play with him. Maybe just invite the couple next door over for some steaks, hot off the grill, because you saw your neighbor-cousin having to take items out of their cart at the grocery store.

I've seen you talk about how we've lost that "good neighbor" vibe that we recall from childhood. Be the one to bring it back.

First off, what you're saying is that I have no right to keep to myself and be apathetic?

That feel-good "IF everyone would just....." mantra has been around since my childhood.......and I'm sorry, the sheer amount of people feeding off the goodwill of others has only grown, imo. BUT......having said that, if you still WANT to go out and do that? I've got no problem. Just don't expect me to.

But you and Govt absolutely are asking exactly that....in fact, demanding it by force.

Second off, when it comes to a mathematical equation, my little family unit actually does contribute a lot, imo.....especially considering how charitable and giving my wife is. She more than makes up for Grinchy me.

But just last night I helped out a young man with car/tire problems. Helped him out of a jam, likely saved him $100 in fees and got him on his way home with no harm to him.

I know we're diametrically opposed in our views on this..........but I simply see it as the Supply will always be outweighed by the Demand. Again, if you wanna play Sysiphus, have at 'er. Just don't demand it of me or mine.

We'reboth just a couple of old fashioned guys.........you're more Peck (and I like the guy) but I'm more DeVito

[Prometheus]

May 17, 2021 6:11:20 GMT abbey1227 said:

May 17, 2021 4:09:50 GMT Prometheus said:

I'm not asking you to help them all, just one neighbor-cousin (and by extension their family). And I'd ask that your wife help a different neighbor-cousin. And then I'd ask them to help two more, and so on....

I'm not asking you to pay their rent or their bills. I'm just asking you to lend them a hand: offer to cut their grass for free because your neighbor-cousin is an 80-year-old woman using a walker. Offer to play catch because your neighbor-cousin is an 8-year-old kid and all the other neighborhood kids are older and won't play with him. Maybe just invite the couple next door over for some steaks, hot off the grill, because you saw your neighbor-cousin having to take items out of their cart at the grocery store.

I've seen you talk about how we've lost that "good neighbor" vibe that we recall from childhood. Be the one to bring it back.

First off, what you're saying is that I have no right to keep to myself and be apathetic?

That feel-good "IF everyone would just....." mantra has been around since my childhood.......and I'm sorry, the sheer amount of people feeding off the goodwill of others has only grown, imo. BUT......having said that, if you still WANT to go out and do that? I've got no problem. Just don't expect me to.

But you and Govt absolutely are asking exactly that....in fact, demanding it by force.

Second off, when it comes to a mathematical equation, my little family unit actually does contribute a lot, imo.....especially considering how charitable and giving my wife is. She more than makes up for Grinchy me.

But just last night I helped out a young man with car/tire problems. Helped him out of a jam, likely saved him $100 in fees and got him on his way home with no harm to him.

I know we're diametrically opposed in our views on this..........but I simply see it as the Supply will always be outweighed by the Demand. Again, if you wanna play Sysiphus, have at 'er. Just don't demand it of me or mine.

We'reboth just a couple of old fashioned guys.........you're more Peck (and I like the guy) but I'm more DeVito

I'm absolutely NOT Peck. Suggesting that I am is hilariously laughable.

But it's the only way that you get to feel better about yourself.

So... you're welcome.

And thanks for helping out the guy with the car problem. That's all I'm talking about: being neighborly... building a community that cares.

That's going to be important when I shut down the old, useless company and your neighbors need to rely on each other until something else comes along.

I'd ask if you get it, but I figure you'll just come up with some other excuse or dodge.