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Post by abbey1227 on May 2, 2021 0:56:01 GMT
Biden Bans Travel From India as Coronavirus Cases Surge
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Post by Prometheus on May 2, 2021 1:38:56 GMT
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Post by abbey1227 on May 2, 2021 1:43:16 GMT
Those ever shifting goal posts, huh?
What do the people who have been vaccinated care if those who did not die? ![[giveup]](//storage.proboards.com/7182076/images/FSYefibmKqtatIXMgHZg.gif)
The full court press for conformity is reaching epidemic proportions.
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Post by Prometheus on May 2, 2021 1:46:06 GMT
Those ever shifting goal posts, huh?
What do the people who have been vaccinated care if those who did not die?
The full court press for conformity is reaching epidemic proportions.
I don't see goalposts being shifted. I see fewer players on the field capable of scoring a touchdown. |
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Post by abbey1227 on May 2, 2021 1:50:15 GMT
I don't see goalposts being shifted. I see fewer players on the field capable of scoring a touchdown.
What was the Percentage previously agreed upon to reach 'herd immunity'?
Last my state posted, almost everyone over 65 has been vaccinated and well over 1/3 of the entire state has received their shot.
Now they're suggesting that without 100% compliance, the restrictions will remain in place?
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Post by Prometheus on May 2, 2021 2:00:19 GMT
I don't see goalposts being shifted. I see fewer players on the field capable of scoring a touchdown.
What was the Percentage previously agreed upon to reach 'herd immunity'?
Last my state posted, almost everyone over 65 has been vaccinated and well over 1/3 of the entire state has received their shot.
Now they're suggesting that without 100% compliance, the restrictions will remain in place?
None of that has to do with herd immunity... unless your state's borders are closed. |
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Post by abbey1227 on May 2, 2021 2:03:20 GMT
What was the Percentage previously agreed upon to reach 'herd immunity'?
Last my state posted, almost everyone over 65 has been vaccinated and well over 1/3 of the entire state has received their shot.
Now they're suggesting that without 100% compliance, the restrictions will remain in place?
None of that has to do with herd immunity... unless your state's borders are closed.
We're an open borders country now.
So unless we're supplying the entire world with shots, what's the point exactly?
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Post by abbey1227 on May 2, 2021 2:15:16 GMT
hey, people with their vaccine cards! 
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Post by Prometheus on May 2, 2021 2:26:35 GMT
None of that has to do with herd immunity... unless your state's borders are closed.
We're an open borders country now.
So unless we're supplying the entire world with shots, what's the point exactly?
The US is NOT an "open borders" country. Saying that it is makes you look stupid... or at least, outrageously uninformed.
Some states have further restrictions regarding international AND interstate travel.
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Post by LokisMom on May 2, 2021 8:13:43 GMT
I see no problem being "racist" towards Covid-19.
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Post by abbey1227 on May 2, 2021 12:11:26 GMT
The US is NOT an "open borders" country. Saying that it is makes you look stupid... or at least, outrageously uninformed.
Let's just talk about Covid though:
Dude,
We don't stop people from coming in.........and they're spending money 'reuniting' families here IN the US after they're over the wall, river or whatever.
I don't know what more you need to have an open border policy? FREE plane/bus tickets?
And hilarious that Americans are required to provide proof of a GD thing at this point. Meanwhile illegals are bringing in covid, pox and TB.
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Post by Prometheus on May 3, 2021 1:02:04 GMT
The US is NOT an "open borders" country. Saying that it is makes you look stupid... or at least, outrageously uninformed.
Let's just talk about Covid though:
Dude,
We don't stop people from coming in.........and they're spending money 'reuniting' families here IN the US after they're over the wall, river or whatever.
I don't know what more you need to have an open border policy? FREE plane/bus tickets?
And hilarious that Americans are required to provide proof of a GD thing at this point. Meanwhile illegals are bringing in covid, pox and TB.
We DO stop people from coming in. We DO have border controls.
If I overstay my visa and stay in China, does it mean they have "open borders"? Of course not. If a North Korean slips across the border into China, does it mean China has "open borders"? Don't be a fool.
"Meanwhile illegals are bringing in covid, pox and TB."
Covid: SMFH
Pox: What pox? Small pox was eradicated back in the 70's
TB: That already exists in the US and is completely treatable
Where do you get this shit? Fox News?
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Post by abbey1227 on May 3, 2021 1:09:55 GMT
We DO stop people from coming in. We DO have border controls.
If I overstay my visa and stay in China, does it mean they have "open borders"? Of course not. If a North Korean slips across the border into China, does it mean China has "open borders"? Don't be a fool.
"Meanwhile illegals are bringing in covid, pox and TB."
Covid: SMFH
Pox: What pox? Small pox was eradicated back in the 70's
TB: That already exists in the US and is completely treatable
Where do you get this shit? Fox News?
Just compare the two for me........... if you overstayed your visa........ which country would you expect to actually get around to locating and then evicting you?
I'm not a Fox news watcher, so there's that. There's been outbreaks in the US in the past decade or so of whooping cough, measles and other seemingly eradicated illnesses.
found this even............ |
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Post by Prometheus on May 3, 2021 1:41:42 GMT
We DO stop people from coming in. We DO have border controls.
If I overstay my visa and stay in China, does it mean they have "open borders"? Of course not. If a North Korean slips across the border into China, does it mean China has "open borders"? Don't be a fool.
"Meanwhile illegals are bringing in covid, pox and TB."
Covid: SMFH
Pox: What pox? Small pox was eradicated back in the 70's
TB: That already exists in the US and is completely treatable
Where do you get this shit? Fox News?
Just compare the two for me........... if you overstayed your visa........ which country would you expect to actually get around to locating and then evicting you?
I'm not a Fox news watcher, so there's that. There's been outbreaks in the US in the past decade or so of whooping cough, measles and other seemingly eradicated illnesses.
found this even............ 1. Surprise, surprise. The Chinese probably wouldn't come looking for me. They'd just wait until I surfaced. That said, there are far more reasons for me to have to poke my head up here. But, hey, if you want to restrict travel from state to state in the US, be my guest.
2. Whooping cough and measles were never deemed "eradicated."
3. Mumps: never deemed "eradicated. Chicken pox? Seriously? Didn't we just recently talk about purposely exposing kids to Chicken Pox as a method of building immunity. You ate your cake. You can't have another.
4. And yet millions of Americans walked around infecting their friends, families, and neighbors with Covid in the name of "freedom."
Mortality rate of mumps: 1 in 10,000 (when they didn't get their scheduled vaccinations)
Mortality rate of measles: 3 in 1,000 (when they didn't get their scheduled vaccinations) Mortality rate of chicken pox: 1 in 60,000 Mortality rate from the common flu: 1 in 1,000
Mortality rate of Covid: 1 in 50
You want to talk about poor controls on our borders, we'll talk about them, but we're not going to talk about how we have open borders, because we don't.
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Post by abbey1227 on May 3, 2021 1:52:21 GMT
1. Surprise, surprise. The Chinese probably wouldn't come looking for me. They'd just wait until I surfaced. That said, there are far more reasons for me to have to poke my head up here. But, hey, if you want to restrict travel from state to state in the US, be my guest.
2. Whooping cough and measles were never deemed "eradicated."
3. Mumps: never deemed "eradicated. Chicken pox? Seriously? Didn't we just recently talk about purposely exposing kids to Chicken Pox as a method of building immunity. You ate your cake. You can't have another.
4. And yet millions of Americans walked around infecting their friends, families, and neighbors with Covid in the name of "freedom."
Mortality rate of mumps: 1 in 10,000 (when they didn't get their scheduled vaccinations)
Mortality rate of measles: 3 in 1,000 (when they didn't get their scheduled vaccinations) Mortality rate of chicken pox: 1 in 60,000 Mortality rate from the common flu: 1 in 1,000
Mortality rate of Covid: 1 in 50
You want to talk about poor controls on our borders, we'll talk about them, but we're not going to talk about how we have open borders, because we don't.
1. Color me shocked. Are they too busy clamping down on Hong Kong instead?
2. Pretty much unheard of in recent years.
3. We were in regards to the better approach to Covid instead of shutting the whole country down.
1 in 50? That seems to be a very questionable number. Like so many figures pushed during the last year.
Sorry, when there's over 20 million illegals.....and more arriving every day........ I'd consider that as good as open borders......especially when in order to fly on a domestic flight citizens are still jumping thru hoops and being groped.
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Post by Prometheus on May 3, 2021 2:16:38 GMT
1. Surprise, surprise. The Chinese probably wouldn't come looking for me. They'd just wait until I surfaced. That said, there are far more reasons for me to have to poke my head up here. But, hey, if you want to restrict travel from state to state in the US, be my guest.
2. Whooping cough and measles were never deemed "eradicated."
3. Mumps: never deemed "eradicated. Chicken pox? Seriously? Didn't we just recently talk about purposely exposing kids to Chicken Pox as a method of building immunity. You ate your cake. You can't have another.
4. And yet millions of Americans walked around infecting their friends, families, and neighbors with Covid in the name of "freedom."
Mortality rate of mumps: 1 in 10,000 (when they didn't get their scheduled vaccinations)
Mortality rate of measles: 3 in 1,000 (when they didn't get their scheduled vaccinations) Mortality rate of chicken pox: 1 in 60,000 Mortality rate from the common flu: 1 in 1,000
Mortality rate of Covid: 1 in 50
You want to talk about poor controls on our borders, we'll talk about them, but we're not going to talk about how we have open borders, because we don't.
1. Color me shocked. Are they too busy clamping down on Hong Kong instead?
2. Pretty much unheard of in recent years.
3. We were in regards to the better approach to Covid instead of shutting the whole country down.
1 in 50? That seems to be a very questionable number. Like so many figures pushed during the last year.
Sorry, when there's over 20 million illegals.....and more arriving every day........ I'd consider that as good as open borders......especially when in order to fly on a domestic flight citizens are still jumping thru hoops and being groped.
1. Nope. It's just that they have other controls here that would force me to "surface" sooner or later. Every once in a while they'll do "sweeps" and cops will go into businesses and schools that employ foreigners to make sure the paperwork is all up to date, or they'll go into a bar frequented by expats and ask to see papers.
3. And yet now you seem scared of it when it got caught at the border. Do you think chicken pox from Honduras is deadlier for some reason?
Covid: Total deaths (3,216,214) / Total cases (153,481,613)) x 100 = 2.0955% which = 2 in 100 or 1 in 50
This is where you whine about over-reporting in the US and I have to point out that you then must dismiss under-reporting in China. Do you want the cake or do you want to eat the cake?
4. And if illegals tried to fly on a domestic flight, they'd be caught.
Call it what you want, Abs, but people who actually understand the difference will continue to think you're a fool. |
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Post by abbey1227 on May 3, 2021 2:48:52 GMT
1. Nope. It's just that they have other controls here that would force me to "surface" sooner or later. Every once in a while they'll do "sweeps" and cops will go into businesses and schools that employ foreigners to make sure the paperwork is all up to date, or they'll go into a bar frequented by expats and ask to see papers.
3. And yet now you seem scared of it when it got caught at the border. Do you think chicken pox from Honduras is deadlier for some reason?
Covid: Total deaths (3,216,214) / Total cases (153,481,613)) x 100 = 2.0955% which = 2 in 100 or 1 in 50
This is where you whine about over-reporting in the US and I have to point out that you then must dismiss under-reporting in China. Do you want the cake or do you want to eat the cake?
4. And if illegals tried to fly on a domestic flight, they'd be caught.
Call it what you want, Abs, but people who actually understand the difference will continue to think you're a fool.
I'm not scared of it........not fo9r me, anyway. Just like Covid, it's something other people might have to worry about at the moment.
US covid cases is around 60 million.....I'm also guessing that's a lowball figure. That's a ways from 1 in 50.
I kinda like the under reporting though. They've got billions, they're not all that worried about losing some.
4. True......which is how it should be when they use Emergency Rooms, public schools and other other govt agencies.
I'll be the fool on the hill then. It's not like my kids will be the ones suffering for it years from now.
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Post by Prometheus on May 3, 2021 3:11:13 GMT
1. Nope. It's just that they have other controls here that would force me to "surface" sooner or later. Every once in a while they'll do "sweeps" and cops will go into businesses and schools that employ foreigners to make sure the paperwork is all up to date, or they'll go into a bar frequented by expats and ask to see papers.
3. And yet now you seem scared of it when it got caught at the border. Do you think chicken pox from Honduras is deadlier for some reason?
Covid: Total deaths (3,216,214) / Total cases (153,481,613)) x 100 = 2.0955% which = 2 in 100 or 1 in 50
This is where you whine about over-reporting in the US and I have to point out that you then must dismiss under-reporting in China. Do you want the cake or do you want to eat the cake?
4. And if illegals tried to fly on a domestic flight, they'd be caught.
Call it what you want, Abs, but people who actually understand the difference will continue to think you're a fool.
I'm not scared of it........not fo9r me, anyway. Just like Covid, it's something other people might have to worry about at the moment.
US covid cases is around 60 million.....I'm also guessing that's a lowball figure. That's a ways from 1 in 50.
I kinda like the under reporting though. They've got billions, they're not all that worried about losing some.
4. True......which is how it should be when they use Emergency Rooms, public schools and other other govt agencies.
I'll be the fool on the hill then. It's not like my kids will be the ones suffering for it years from now.
Total cases in the US is 33,180,441 and the total number of dead is 591,062 or 1.8% or 0.9 in 50. Since 0.9 of a person can't die and leave the 0.1 alive, it looks like the US is at 1 in 50 just like the rest of the world.
Emergency rooms are NOT "government agencies" but I'm not sure that they are required to submit notification of treating people who may or may not be in the country illegally. Do you think we really need to expand our police state to such levels?
Of course you are... since you have nothing to fear... yet.
Oh wait! YOU want to do away with the police entirely, which would let all of those illegals just run around and do as they please.
I can never tell with you. I guess you're "law and order fluid."
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Post by abbey1227 on May 3, 2021 3:20:04 GMT
Total cases in the US is 33,180,441 and the total number of dead is 591,062 or 1.8% or 0.9 in 50. Since 0.9 of a person can't die and leave the 0.1 alive, it looks like the US is at 1 in 50 just like the rest of the world.
Emergency rooms are NOT "government agencies" but I'm not sure that they are required to submit notification of treating people who may or may not be in the country illegally. Do you think we really need to expand our police state to such levels?
Of course you are... since you have nothing to fear... yet.
Oh wait! YOU want to do away with the police entirely, which would let all of those illegals just run around and do as they please.
I can never tell with you. I guess you're "law and order fluid."
Do I need to provide a link for that 60 Million cases figure? I'd also suspect there are actually far more than that as many people have been asymptomatic so likely never bothered going in or taking a test.
Emergency rooms are one of the costliest parts of our healthcare industry......and a good portion of it gets picked up by the tax payers. Forgive me if I figure that falls under the Govt and it's incredible waste. YES, if we're becoming a nation of online snitches...... then I'd expect no less from watchdogs looking to prevent wasted resources.
The way I see it, every year past 50 is gravy. I ain't expecting to live forever.
I'd be surrounded by illegals, which is similar to the current situation.......but at least $Billions wouldn't have been wasted on the appearance and false promise of border security.
I know......... it's a tough line to walk. Being against the govt in so many areas, yet supporting police, laws and proper etiquette in public.
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Post by Prometheus on May 3, 2021 3:25:01 GMT
Total cases in the US is 33,180,441 and the total number of dead is 591,062 or 1.8% or 0.9 in 50. Since 0.9 of a person can't die and leave the 0.1 alive, it looks like the US is at 1 in 50 just like the rest of the world.
Emergency rooms are NOT "government agencies" but I'm not sure that they are required to submit notification of treating people who may or may not be in the country illegally. Do you think we really need to expand our police state to such levels?
Of course you are... since you have nothing to fear... yet.
Oh wait! YOU want to do away with the police entirely, which would let all of those illegals just run around and do as they please.
I can never tell with you. I guess you're "law and order fluid."
Do I need to provide a link for that 60 Million cases figure? I'd also suspect there are actually far more than that as many people have been asymptomatic so likely never bothered going in or taking a test.
Emergency rooms are one of the costliest parts of our healthcare industry......and a good portion of it gets picked up by the tax payers. Forgive me if I figure that falls under the Govt and it's incredible waste. YES, if we're becoming a nation of online snitches...... then I'd expect no less from watchdogs looking to prevent wasted resources.
The way I see it, every year past 50 is gravy. I ain't expecting to live forever.
I'd be surrounded by illegals, which is similar to the current situation.......but at least $Billions wouldn't have been wasted on the appearance and false promise of border security.
I know......... it's a tough line to walk. Being against the govt in so many areas, yet supporting police, laws and proper etiquette in public.
Yes. You'll need to provide a link... from a reputable source.
And you don't "walk the line." You jump back and forth across it like you're playing Double Dutch with the local kids.
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