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Post by Prometheus on Apr 28, 2021 4:09:19 GMT
When someone on the "right" gets upset about disrespect being paid to the flag of the USA, people on the "left" are quick to say, "It's just a piece of cloth." Yet, if someone waves a Confederate Battle Flag, the people on the "left" freak out. Why isn't this flag, "just a piece of cloth"?
"Because it's a symbol of...."
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know, but what I'm getting at is, if it's OK to hate a symbol of oppression (the CBF), why is it also OK to disrespect a symbol of a country that (believe it or not) is really trying to live up to the ideals that our Founding Fathers envisioned (but often had to compromise for the sake unity)?
Why do we give some symbols so much meaning and others not enough?
Is it simply because the US has stumbled in its efforts or is it just because some people feel the need to hate anything and everything that their "enemies" love?
And it's not just flags.
If someone dies in a car crash and a makeshift memorial is erected on the side of the road, heaven forbid that a Christian cross be included lest the atheists file a million-dollar suit against the township or state.
If someone displays a statue of Buddha with a swastika on it, people freak out.
If a white person wears a bindi on their forehead, they get shouted at without ever once asking if they are a Buddhist or Hindu... and they were a practicing Buddhist.
If a white woman goes to a concert and spends a bunch of money for some henna tattoos, she gets yelled at because the design is specific to Muslim marriage tattoos. No one gets upset at the Muslim woman who applied the tattoos.
The four examples above have really happened and continue to happen to other people all the time.
I was in a bar with a British guy one night who said that American's preoccupation with their flag was a bit weird and that no one in Europe cared that much about their flags.
I asked if it would be OK if I blew my nose with a Union Jack hanky and he asked me if I liked my nose in its current location.
I guess it all boils down to whom it's OK to hate at the moment.
Silly, isn't it?
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Post by abbey1227 on Apr 28, 2021 4:43:01 GMT
When someone on the "right" gets upset about disrespect being paid to the flag of the USA, people on the "left" are quick to say, "It's just a piece of cloth." Yet, if someone waves a Confederate Battle Flag, the people on the "left" freak out. Why isn't this flag, "just a piece of cloth"?
"Because it's a symbol of...."
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know, but what I'm getting at is, if it's OK to hate a symbol of oppression (the CBF), why is it also OK to disrespect a symbol of a country that (believe it or not) is really trying to live up to the ideals that our Founding Fathers envisioned (but often had to compromise for the sake unity)?
Why do we give some symbols so much meaning and others not enough?
Is it simply because the US has stumbled in its efforts or is it just because some people feel the need to hate anything and everything that their "enemies" love?
And it's not just flags.
If someone dies in a car crash and a makeshift memorial is erected on the side of the road, heaven forbid that a Christian cross be included lest the atheists file a million-dollar suit against the township or state.
If someone displays a statue of Buddha with a swastika on it, people freak out.
If a white person wears a bindi on their forehead, they get shouted at without ever once asking if they are a Buddhist or Hindu... and they were a practicing Buddhist.
If a white woman goes to a concert and spends a bunch of money for some henna tattoos, she gets yelled at because the design is specific to Muslim marriage tattoos. No one gets upset at the Muslim woman who applied the tattoos.
The four examples above have really happened and continue to happen to other people all the time.
I was in a bar with a British guy one night who said that American's preoccupation with their flag was a bit weird and that no one in Europe cared that much about their flags.
I asked if it would be OK if I blew my nose with a Union Jack hanky and he asked me if I liked my nose in its current location.
I guess it all boils down to whom it's OK to hate at the moment.
Silly, isn't it?
WE all decide what to selectively be offended by.
I've been called silly and too nostalgic for my inconsistent stance on the whole 'kneeling during the anthem' displays. So I feel totally justified in telling them that Black Lives Don't Matter and any word I choose in an argument is perfectly fine to use.
At the same time that I believe in the freedom/right to burn the US flag........ I also think you're an ass if you do and I might even slap you if I'm there in person.  |
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Post by Prometheus on Apr 28, 2021 5:11:04 GMT
When someone on the "right" gets upset about disrespect being paid to the flag of the USA, people on the "left" are quick to say, "It's just a piece of cloth." Yet, if someone waves a Confederate Battle Flag, the people on the "left" freak out. Why isn't this flag, "just a piece of cloth"?
"Because it's a symbol of...."
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know, but what I'm getting at is, if it's OK to hate a symbol of oppression (the CBF), why is it also OK to disrespect a symbol of a country that (believe it or not) is really trying to live up to the ideals that our Founding Fathers envisioned (but often had to compromise for the sake unity)?
Why do we give some symbols so much meaning and others not enough?
Is it simply because the US has stumbled in its efforts or is it just because some people feel the need to hate anything and everything that their "enemies" love?
And it's not just flags.
If someone dies in a car crash and a makeshift memorial is erected on the side of the road, heaven forbid that a Christian cross be included lest the atheists file a million-dollar suit against the township or state.
If someone displays a statue of Buddha with a swastika on it, people freak out.
If a white person wears a bindi on their forehead, they get shouted at without ever once asking if they are a Buddhist or Hindu... and they were a practicing Buddhist.
If a white woman goes to a concert and spends a bunch of money for some henna tattoos, she gets yelled at because the design is specific to Muslim marriage tattoos. No one gets upset at the Muslim woman who applied the tattoos.
The four examples above have really happened and continue to happen to other people all the time.
I was in a bar with a British guy one night who said that American's preoccupation with their flag was a bit weird and that no one in Europe cared that much about their flags.
I asked if it would be OK if I blew my nose with a Union Jack hanky and he asked me if I liked my nose in its current location.
I guess it all boils down to whom it's OK to hate at the moment.
Silly, isn't it?
WE all decide what to selectively be offended by.
I've been called silly and too nostalgic for my inconsistent stance on the whole 'kneeling during the anthem' displays. So I feel totally justified in telling them that Black Lives Don't Matter and any word I choose in an argument is perfectly fine to use.
At the same time that I believe in the freedom/right to burn the US flag........ I also think you're an ass if you do and I might even slap you if I'm there in person. 1. I try to exercise my right to not be offended as often as possible. I'm not always successful, but I hope that when I am offended, it's because of something that all rational people should be offended by.
2. I actually don't give a shit if they kneel, stand, sit on the bench since it's not an official occasion, but I do find the controversy interesting.
3. I wonder how group-thinkers would react to a "My Life Matters" movement....
4. Ditto
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Post by abbey1227 on Apr 28, 2021 5:22:47 GMT
1. I try to exercise my right to not be offended as often as possible. I'm not always successful, but I hope that when I am offended, it's because of something that all rational people should be offended by.
2. I actually don't give a shit if they kneel, stand, sit on the bench since it's not an official occasion, but I do find the controversy interesting.
3. I wonder how group-thinkers would react to a "My Life Matters" movement....
4. Ditto
1. Define: rational
2. Did you play any organized sports? I always loved that silence and respect during the anthem playing. (Then I went and tried to destroy my opponents )
3. If only people acted that way in all directions. I see people wearing covid masks while buying cigarettes. ![[giveup]](//storage.proboards.com/7182076/images/FSYefibmKqtatIXMgHZg.gif)
4. I strive for consistency knowing it's nigh impossible to be 100%.........but I still feel I do better than most.
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Post by Prometheus on Apr 28, 2021 5:34:39 GMT
1. I try to exercise my right to not be offended as often as possible. I'm not always successful, but I hope that when I am offended, it's because of something that all rational people should be offended by.
2. I actually don't give a shit if they kneel, stand, sit on the bench since it's not an official occasion, but I do find the controversy interesting.
3. I wonder how group-thinkers would react to a "My Life Matters" movement....
4. Ditto
1. Define: rational
2. Did you play any organized sports? I always loved that silence and respect during the anthem playing. (Then I went and tried to destroy my opponents )
3. If only people acted that way in all directions. I see people wearing covid masks while buying cigarettes.
4. I strive for consistency knowing it's nigh impossible to be 100%.........but I still feel I do better than most.
1. Having or exercising reason, sound judgment, or good sense
2. I double-lettered in high school. I actually didn't like the ceremony. It interrupted my mindset. I just wanted to get out there and win.
3. I wear my mask in the store out of respect for the others in there then spark my cig outside.
4. Ditto
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Post by abbey1227 on Apr 28, 2021 5:37:49 GMT
1. Having or exercising reason, sound judgment, or good sense
2. I double-lettered in high school. I actually didn't like the ceremony. It interrupted my mindset. I just wanted to get out there and win.
3. I wear my mask in the store out of respect for the others in there then spark my cig outside.
4. Ditto
1. So we can discount most people then.
2. I used it kinda like the quiet before the storm. It was much better than boxers/fighters and their theme music, imo
3. You SMOKE?  |
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Post by Prometheus on Apr 28, 2021 5:49:27 GMT
1. Having or exercising reason, sound judgment, or good sense
2. I double-lettered in high school. I actually didn't like the ceremony. It interrupted my mindset. I just wanted to get out there and win.
3. I wear my mask in the store out of respect for the others in there then spark my cig outside.
4. Ditto
1. So we can discount most people then.
2. I used it kinda like the quiet before the storm. It was much better than boxers/fighters and their theme music, imo
3. You SMOKE? 1. Sadly, yes
2. I actually prefer some music that gets me pumped up
3. Not during class....
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Post by abbey1227 on Apr 28, 2021 6:06:47 GMT
1. Sadly, yes
2. I actually prefer some music that gets me pumped up
3. Not during class....
1. I like it when we can find some agreement
2. Whatever works for ya, good on ya
3. Atta, boy! Pick your own vice, run with it while you can.
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Post by Prometheus on Apr 28, 2021 6:26:04 GMT
1. Sadly, yes
2. I actually prefer some music that gets me pumped up
3. Not during class....
1. I like it when we can find some agreement
2. Whatever works for ya, good on ya
3. Atta, boy! Pick your own vice, run with it while you can.
I don't run
I keep spilling my bourbon
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Post by abbey1227 on Apr 28, 2021 6:29:45 GMT
1. I like it when we can find some agreement
2. Whatever works for ya, good on ya
3. Atta, boy! Pick your own vice, run with it while you can.
I don't run
I keep spilling my bourbon
Alcohol is bad fer ya!
Have you ever thought of using sippy cups? or those hats with the tubes to drink from?
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Post by Prometheus on Apr 28, 2021 6:43:44 GMT
I don't run
I keep spilling my bourbon
Alcohol is bad fer ya!
Have you ever thought of using sippy cups? or those hats with the tubes to drink from?
I actually have a nice flask. |
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