Impressive As Per Usual

[abbey1227]

Real ID requirement deadline extended again after COVID setbacks
Nation Dec 6, 2022 2:44 PM EST

The deadline for obtaining the Real ID needed to board a domestic flight has been pushed back again, with the Department of Homeland Security citing the lingering impact of the COVID-19 pandemic for the slower-than-expected rollout.

WATCH: President Biden vows to modernize aging, outdated U.S. airports

The deadline to have a Real ID had been May 3, 2023, but DHS announced Monday that it was pushed back two years, to May 7, 2025.

“This extension will give states needed time to ensure their residents can obtain a REAL ID-compliant license or identification card,” Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro N. Mayorkas said in a news release. “DHS will also use this time to implement innovations to make the process more efficient and accessible. We will continue to ensure that the American public can travel safely.”

www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/real-id-requirement-deadline-extended-again-after-covid-setbacks?fbclid=IwAR1hJB6k7Hrw98kvMKreK4XO8xmW7YcDzPoedy56JfowLYHsXfh5yU-TX_o

About as impressive as Border Security and PBS combined  

[merh]

Dec 7, 2022 8:48:57 GMT abbey1227 said:

Real ID requirement deadline extended again after COVID setbacks
Nation Dec 6, 2022 2:44 PM EST

The deadline for obtaining the Real ID needed to board a domestic flight has been pushed back again, with the Department of Homeland Security citing the lingering impact of the COVID-19 pandemic for the slower-than-expected rollout.

WATCH: President Biden vows to modernize aging, outdated U.S. airports

The deadline to have a Real ID had been May 3, 2023, but DHS announced Monday that it was pushed back two years, to May 7, 2025.

“This extension will give states needed time to ensure their residents can obtain a REAL ID-compliant license or identification card,” Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro N. Mayorkas said in a news release. “DHS will also use this time to implement innovations to make the process more efficient and accessible. We will continue to ensure that the American public can travel safely.”

www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/real-id-requirement-deadline-extended-again-after-covid-setbacks?fbclid=IwAR1hJB6k7Hrw98kvMKreK4XO8xmW7YcDzPoedy56JfowLYHsXfh5yU-TX_o

About as impressive as Border Security and PBS combined  

Dude, the Donald played with this as well.

The Real ID Act of 2005 (stylized as REAL ID Act of 2005) is an Act of Congress that establishes requirements that driver licenses and identification cards issued by U.S. states and territories must satisfy to be accepted for accessing federal government facilities and nuclear power plants and for boarding airline flights in the United States. The requirements include verification of the personal information presented when applying for the identification document, security features on the document, and electronic sharing of databases between states. The act also made various modifications to U.S. immigration law regarding asylum, border security, deportation, and certain work visas.

Enacted in response to the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, the provisions regarding identification documents were originally intended to take effect in 2008, but enforcement was repeatedly delayed due to widespread opposition and refusal by many state governments to implement them. Eventually states began to comply in 2012, and enforcement began in 2014 for certain federal facilities. After numerous extensions, by 2021 all states and territories were certified as compliant except American Samoa, which remained under review. As of 2022, the final and most significant phase of the implementation, regarding identification documents accepted for boarding flights, was scheduled for May 7, 2025, after being postponed many times

I thought you were all about States Rights?






This real ID was 

[abbey1227]

Dec 7, 2022 11:39:50 GMT merh said:

 Eventually states began to comply in 2012I thought you were all about States Rights?






This real ID was 

states rights? The right to bend the knee to the Feds?

And they started 'complying' in 2012?

So a whole decade and they're still lagging? Sounds about right for Govt at all levels

[Prometheus]

Dec 7, 2022 12:02:17 GMT abbey1227 said:

Dec 7, 2022 11:39:50 GMT merh said:

 Eventually states began to comply in 2012I thought you were all about States Rights?






This real ID was 

states rights? The right to bend the knee to the Feds?

And they started 'complying' in 2012?

So a whole decade and they're still lagging? Sounds about right for Govt at all levels

Sounds like Abs got school - AGAIN - and is now getting all Ray Bolger about it.

[merh]

Dec 7, 2022 22:59:01 GMT Prometheus said:

Dec 7, 2022 12:02:17 GMT abbey1227 said:

states rights? The right to bend the knee to the Feds?

And they started 'complying' in 2012?

So a whole decade and they're still lagging? Sounds about right for Govt at all levels

Sounds like Abs got school - AGAIN - and is now getting all Ray Bolger about it.

Conflict overload.

Does he care more about freedom or the border?

He seems to think the Real ID will fight undocumented workers from entering the US.

This seems to be the issue

The Real ID Act requires that states and territories share their ID databases with each other, but this requirement was not included in the DHS certification criteria. The system used to share ID databases was implemented in 2015. As of December 2022, 36 states were participating in this system.

I know this is an issue in law enforcement as some states refuse to share records. 
In my former employment I would need to read rap sheets & certain states didn't surrender that info because they didn't agree with our privacy rules. 
I'm thinking that's also the issue here.

[Prometheus]

Dec 8, 2022 8:27:51 GMT merh said:

Dec 7, 2022 22:59:01 GMT Prometheus said:

Sounds like Abs got school - AGAIN - and is now getting all Ray Bolger about it.

Conflict overload.

Does he care more about freedom or the border?

He seems to think the Real ID will fight undocumented workers from entering the US.

This seems to be the issue

The Real ID Act requires that states and territories share their ID databases with each other, but this requirement was not included in the DHS certification criteria. The system used to share ID databases was implemented in 2015. As of December 2022, 36 states were participating in this system.

I know this is an issue in law enforcement as some states refuse to share records. 
In my former employment I would need to read rap sheets & certain states didn't surrender that info because they didn't agree with our privacy rules. 
I'm thinking that's also the issue here.

You mean they didn't appreciate your STATE'S RIGHTS?

State's rights are only for the red team, dontcha know?

[abbey1227]

Dec 8, 2022 8:27:51 GMT merh said:

Conflict overload.

Does he care more about freedom or the border?

He seems to think the Real ID will fight undocumented workers from entering the US.

This seems to be the issue

The Real ID Act requires that states and territories share their ID databases with each other, but this requirement was not included in the DHS certification criteria. The system used to share ID databases was implemented in 2015. As of December 2022, 36 states were participating in this system.

I know this is an issue in law enforcement as some states refuse to share records. 
In my former employment I would need to read rap sheets & certain states didn't surrender that info because they didn't agree with our privacy rules. 
I'm thinking that's also the issue here.

It's gotta be the English language.    I keep posting my opinions and beliefs..........and somehow you keep garbling them up with others notions.

Freedoms are most important for US citizens WITHIN the borders of the US. They don't apply to US citizens traveling elsewhere (Right, Ms. Griner?) And they certainly shouldn't apply to any border hoppers and Illegals we've got in the US.

The Real ID? It's a joke and half. Ity'll end up being a costly boondoggle, a bigger hassle for US citizens than anyone else......and Illegals will likely be given a version, as well. Just like when they handed out Drivers Licenses and IDs.

And you've STILL got how many various police. border patrol, immigration, federal agencies not sharing info in any real and cooperative way. This won't change anytime soon.

[merh]

Dec 8, 2022 13:40:45 GMT abbey1227 said:

Dec 8, 2022 8:27:51 GMT merh said:

Conflict overload.

Does he care more about freedom or the border?

He seems to think the Real ID will fight undocumented workers from entering the US.

This seems to be the issue

I know this is an issue in law enforcement as some states refuse to share records. 
In my former employment I would need to read rap sheets & certain states didn't surrender that info because they didn't agree with our privacy rules. 
I'm thinking that's also the issue here.

It's gotta be the English language.    I keep posting my opinions and beliefs..........and somehow you keep garbling them up with others notions.

Freedoms are most important for US citizens WITHIN the borders of the US. They don't apply to US citizens traveling elsewhere (Right, Ms. Griner?) And they certainly shouldn't apply to any border hoppers and Illegals we've got in the US.

The Real ID? It's a joke and half. Ity'll end up being a costly boondoggle, a bigger hassle for US citizens than anyone else......and Illegals will likely be given a version, as well. Just like when they handed out Drivers Licenses and IDs.

And you've STILL got how many various police. border patrol, immigration, federal agencies not sharing info in any real and cooperative way. This won't change anytime soon.

So you are pissed Real ID  was passed in the middle of all that 9/11 patriotic ferver?

Or that states are dragging their feet on it??

Illegals couldn't get real ID.
Real ID required a birth certificate 

[merh]

Dec 8, 2022 11:12:55 GMT Prometheus said:

Dec 8, 2022 8:27:51 GMT merh said:

Conflict overload.

Does he care more about freedom or the border?

He seems to think the Real ID will fight undocumented workers from entering the US.

This seems to be the issue

I know this is an issue in law enforcement as some states refuse to share records. 
In my former employment I would need to read rap sheets & certain states didn't surrender that info because they didn't agree with our privacy rules. 
I'm thinking that's also the issue here.

You mean they didn't appreciate your STATE'S RIGHTS?

State's rights are only for the red team, dontcha know?

Florida was one that refused to share criminal records on the rap sheet as I recall. Maybe NY. Couple other states.

Which is how criminals can get away with stuff-we don't know everything they did because of petty pissy fights between states.

[Prometheus]

Dec 8, 2022 21:58:31 GMT merh said:

Dec 8, 2022 11:12:55 GMT Prometheus said:

You mean they didn't appreciate your STATE'S RIGHTS?

State's rights are only for the red team, dontcha know?

Florida was one that refused to share criminal records on the rap sheet as I recall. Maybe NY. Couple other states.

Which is how criminals can get away with stuff-we don't know everything they did because of petty pissy fights between states.

But if we demand a stronger centralized control from the federal government we are called "commies."

But that's only by idiots who don't understand what communism is... <gives a meaningful look in the general direction of Wisconsin...>

[abbey1227]

Dec 8, 2022 21:54:32 GMT merh said:

Dec 8, 2022 13:40:45 GMT abbey1227 said:

It's gotta be the English language.    I keep posting my opinions and beliefs..........and somehow you keep garbling them up with others notions.

Freedoms are most important for US citizens WITHIN the borders of the US. They don't apply to US citizens traveling elsewhere (Right, Ms. Griner?) And they certainly shouldn't apply to any border hoppers and Illegals we've got in the US.

The Real ID? It's a joke and half. Ity'll end up being a costly boondoggle, a bigger hassle for US citizens than anyone else......and Illegals will likely be given a version, as well. Just like when they handed out Drivers Licenses and IDs.

And you've STILL got how many various police. border patrol, immigration, federal agencies not sharing info in any real and cooperative way. This won't change anytime soon.

So you are pissed Real ID  was passed in the middle of all that 9/11 patriotic ferver?

Or that states are dragging their feet on it??

Illegals couldn't get real ID.
Real ID required a birth certificate 

You forgot me criticizing Obama for not getting rid of Homeland and the Patriot Act? It was all evil rightwing oppressive control? But perfectly fine after he's in office?

Sure they can't. They don't vote either.    Let's not even mention Obama and birth certificates in the same thread, OK  

[Prometheus]

Dec 9, 2022 2:31:00 GMT abbey1227 said:

Dec 8, 2022 21:54:32 GMT merh said:

So you are pissed Real ID  was passed in the middle of all that 9/11 patriotic ferver?

Or that states are dragging their feet on it??

Illegals couldn't get real ID.
Real ID required a birth certificate 

You forgot me criticizing Obama for not getting rid of Homeland and the Patriot Act? It was all evil rightwing oppressive control? But perfectly fine after he's in office?

Sure they can't. They don't vote either.    Let's not even mention Obama and birth certificates in the same thread, OK  

Yeah. Let's NOT mention Obama and birth certificates in the same thread... unless you want to talk about Teddy Cruz....

[merh]

Dec 9, 2022 2:31:00 GMT abbey1227 said:

Dec 8, 2022 21:54:32 GMT merh said:

So you are pissed Real ID  was passed in the middle of all that 9/11 patriotic ferver?

Or that states are dragging their feet on it??

Illegals couldn't get real ID.
Real ID required a birth certificate 

You forgot me criticizing Obama for not getting rid of Homeland and the Patriot Act? It was all evil rightwing oppressive control? But perfectly fine after he's in office?

Sure they can't. They don't vote either.    Let's not even mention Obama and birth certificates in the same thread, OK  

Ohmygod.

You don't buy that stupid Kenya crap, do you?

Fact-check: Did 3 million undocumented immigrants vote in this year's election?

Were there 3 million illegal votes from undocumented immigrants in this year’s presidential election? Well, that’s what some websites are saying.

"Report: 3 million votes in presidential election cast by illegal aliens," reads a headline on InfoWars, a conspiracy website ran by Alex Jones. The article has been shared via Facebook more than 48,000 times when we last looked.


Other websites also have touted this report, including Milo, TheNewAmerican and FreedomDaily.

So is there any truth to it?

Well, we don’t know for absolute certain. But the report is actually a tweet, and the person who authored the tweet won’t explain how he arrived at his figure. If that isn’t reason enough to be skeptical, independent experts and historical analyses suggest it’s highly suspect.

In other words, don’t buy it.

Where’s the report?

As evidence of its claim, InfoWars’ headline refers to a report from VoteFraud.org and tweets from Gregg Phillips, whose Twitter profile says he’s the founder of VoteStand, a voter fraud reporting app.

There is no report from VoteFraud.org, however, and Phillips told PolitiFact he is not affiliated with that website. The information comes from tweets made by from Phillips on Nov. 11 and Nov. 13.

Here they are:

We have verified more than three million votes cast by non-citizens.

We are joining .@truethevote to initiate legal action. #unrigged

— Gregg Phillips (@jumpvote) November 13, 2016
Completed analysis of database of 180 million voter registrations.

Number of non-citizen votes exceeds 3 million.

Consulting legal team.

— Gregg Phillips (@jumpvote) November 11, 2016
Phillips would not provide any additional information when asked by PolitiFact. He said he has chosen not to release more information because he is still working on analyzing the data and verifying its accuracy. Phillips would also not say what the data is or where it came from, or what methodology he used.

Phillips said he would release the information publicly once he is finally finished.

According to his page on LinkedIn, Phillips is a former finance director of the Alabama Republican Party. He also served as executive director of the Mississippi Republican Party and was managing director of a super PAC that supported Newt Gingrich’s 2012 campaign for president.

Plenty of reason to be skeptical

While we have no idea how Phillips arrived at his claim that 3-million noncitizens voted, people who have made similar claims in the past have cited a 2014 report that claims 6.4 percent of non-citizens voted in 2008 and 2.2 percent of non-citizens voted in 2010 midterm congressional elections.

That report was based on data from a Harvard survey of people. But the data was flawed, which created flaws in the subsequent report.

The authors of the survey say a small percentage of respondents, who are citizens, accidentally misidentified themselves as noncitizens on the survey. This is because the respondents didn’t read the question carefully and accidentally selected the wrong response to the question.

How do researchers know this? One of the authors of the survey, Brian Schaffner, said people changed their answers later when they were asked about their citizenship.

"When we took out people who changed their answer on the citizenship question and only look at people who answered consistently that they were noncitizens, we found no reported noncitizens who voted," Schaffner told PolitiFact.

Other research contradicts Phillips’ tweet.

News 21, a national investigative reporting project funded by the Carnegie Corporation of New York and the John S. and James L. Knight Foundation, found just 56 cases of noncitizens voting between 2000 and 2011.

A report by the liberal Brennan Center for Justice at New York University School of Law found that most cases of noncitizens voting were accidental. "Although there are a few recorded examples in which noncitizens have apparently registered or voted, investigators have concluded that they were likely not aware that doing so was improper," reads the 2007 report.

States that have tried to purge noncitizens from voter rolls, meanwhile, have found even government data lacking.

In 2012, Florida Governor Rick Scott’s administration started an effort trying to crack down on noncitizens voting by comparing driver's license data against voter rolls.

Through this process the Florida Department of State created a list of 182,000 potential noncitizens that had voted. That number was whittled down to 2,700, then to about 200 before the purge was stopped amid criticism that the data was flawed given the number of false positives — including a Brooklyn-born World War II vet.

Ultimately, only 85 people were removed from the voting rolls. State officials began to pursue a second attempt at a purge in advance of the 2014 election but then abandoned that effort, too.

Richard Hasen, an election law expert at the University of California, Irvine, called Phillips’ claim "fake news."

"There is no credible evidence I have seen to show large numbers of noncitizens voting in U.S. elections anywhere," Hasen said. "The idea that 3 million noncitizens could have illegally voted in our elections without being detected is obscenely ludicrous."

Our ruling

Reports claim 3 million "illegal aliens" cast votes in this year's election.

The articles point back to tweets from Gregg Phillips, who has worked for the Republican Party and has a voter fraud reporting app. But Phillips will not provide any evidence to support his claim, which happens to be undermined by publicly available information.

If Phillips does release a more detailed report, we will consider that information. But for now, this claim is inaccurate. We rate it False.

[abbey1227]

Dec 9, 2022 20:28:11 GMT merh said:

Dec 9, 2022 2:31:00 GMT abbey1227 said:

You forgot me criticizing Obama for not getting rid of Homeland and the Patriot Act? It was all evil rightwing oppressive control? But perfectly fine after he's in office?

Sure they can't. They don't vote either.    Let's not even mention Obama and birth certificates in the same thread, OK  

Ohmygod.

You don't buy that stupid Kenya crap, do you?

Fact-check: Did 3 million undocumented immigrants vote in this year's election?

Were there 3 million illegal votes from undocumented immigrants in this year’s presidential election? Well, that’s what some websites are saying.


If Phillips does release a more detailed report, we will consider that information. But for now, this claim is inaccurate. We rate it False.

You trust Fact Checkers these days after Covid? 

So they rate it false........does that mean that 2.9 Million illegals voted and the 3 Million claim is still False?

How many f'n Dreamers voted in the last few elections merh? Are you claiming ZERO?