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[merh]

Dec 7, 2022 8:59:58 GMT abbey1227 said:

Dec 7, 2022 8:51:24 GMT merh said:

I actually saw more guys grifting.

The whole dating model came when? 
When women didn't work?
When the date was used as a means of screening to find a wife?

So how were women in 1940 supposed to pay for half the tab?

As women started working, it has become a thing for the tab to be split 50/50.

The NY dude on the morning show I catch says his idea of a date is coffee. He would invite his dates for coffee.
So romantic & expensive!
He admitted it was because he's cheap.

any chance you could keep it to sometime in the last 30-40 years?

The model for dating goes back a ways.

I simply pointed out the Model of the man paying goes back to a time when women didn't have money. Once women started having jobs thanks to feminism, they started going 50/50 on dates.

You think the guy on my morning show isn't within the last 5 yrs?

[abbey1227]

Dec 7, 2022 9:01:55 GMT merh said:

Dec 7, 2022 0:08:39 GMT abbey1227 said:

And she's usually the one pointing out the plight of all those poor homeless people........while ignoring the percentages of gender involved? That's just a coincidence? 

Men?

Because women will prostitute themselves for a roof over their heads more often than guys?

My clients had to work.
We would get people, usually women, who would explain their living situation as "doing stuff" for the homeowner for room & board. 

That's the Power of the Vagina, right there

[abbey1227]

Dec 7, 2022 9:06:23 GMT merh said:

Dec 7, 2022 8:59:58 GMT abbey1227 said:

any chance you could keep it to sometime in the last 30-40 years?

The model for dating goes back a ways.

I simply pointed out the Model of the man paying goes back to a time when women didn't have money. Once women started having jobs thanks to feminism, they started going 50/50 on dates.

You think the guy on my morning show isn't within the last 5 yrs?

And most of the women dating now weren't even alive back then. 

I think you're mistaken. many of them still feel it is the man's responsibility to provide for them.

That's why I've mentioned several times being disappointed in feminism overall.

[merh]

Dec 7, 2022 9:20:29 GMT abbey1227 said:

Dec 7, 2022 9:06:23 GMT merh said:

The model for dating goes back a ways.

I simply pointed out the Model of the man paying goes back to a time when women didn't have money. Once women started having jobs thanks to feminism, they started going 50/50 on dates.

You think the guy on my morning show isn't within the last 5 yrs?

And most of the women dating now weren't even alive back then. 

I think you're mistaken. many of them still feel it is the man's responsibility to provide for them.

That's why I've mentioned several times being disappointed in feminism overall.

BECAUSE THE MODEL WAS CREAYED THEN?
SO FOLLOWING THE MODEL MEANS THE GUY PAYS?

Or the person who asks.
I always thought the person who invites pays. If the gal invites, she pays.

"Would you like to meet me" sort of suggests the asker is offering.

Not to mention NOT ALL WOMEN BUY INTO FEMINISM. If you are dating a gal who voices distaste for feminism,  who says she isn't a feminism,  why would you expect her traditionalist ass to pay her own way?

LOTS OF GUYS live off the women in their lives.
You, for example.
You say you split 50/50.
So she has tons of money in the bank, or she buys the extras? 

My husband made less than me several times. Lived on unemployment for a couple years a couple times while I worked my ass in that laundry & with my government job. He liked his long "vacations" 

And a lot of my clients were perfectly content to watch Oprah on their baby mama's couch, living off her welfare money. 

So stuff it.
You love to paint women as lazy sponges, but lots if guys are as well.

I worked with a gal who let the meth-head father of her youngest child live in her garage or he would have been homeless. 

[abbey1227]

Dec 8, 2022 7:18:04 GMT merh said:

BECAUSE THE MODEL WAS CREATED THEN?
SO FOLLOWING THE MODEL MEANS THE GUY PAYS?
Or the person who asks.  I always thought the person who invites pays. If the gal invites, she pays.
"Would you like to meet me" sort of suggests the asker is offering.

Not to mention NOT ALL WOMEN BUY INTO FEMINISM. If you are dating a gal who voices distaste for feminism,  who says she isn't a feminism,  why would you expect her traditionalist ass to pay her own way?

LOTS OF GUYS live off the women in their lives.
You, for example.
You say you split 50/50.
So she has tons of money in the bank, or she buys the extras? 

My husband made less than me several times. Lived on unemployment for a couple years a couple times while I worked my ass in that laundry & with my government job. He liked his long "vacations"
And a lot of my clients were perfectly content to watch Oprah on their baby mama's couch, living off her welfare money.
So stuff it.
You love to paint women as lazy sponges, but lots of guys are as well.
I worked with a gal who let the meth-head father of her youngest child live in her garage or he would have been homeless.

Are the majority of people really embracing many things from back in that era? Sounds a bit MAGA to me. 

That IS how it used to be in those olde sexist days when men/pigs EXPECTED something in return for their paying. But today? In these days of feminism and equality? I would think just to make sure nobody gets the wrong idea about intentions or expectations......women would make sure to pick up their share of the bill.

I would expect a woman to expect to pay for her meal........unless I expressly told her ahead of time that I'd pick up the entire tab.

The wife and I usually take turns paying.....cuz we know where the other person lives.   

I can not convince my wife to let me vacay or retire even though her income is now more than enough to cover both of our expenses. She's weird and sexist like that, I guess. 

Living off of other peoples' welfare money? The Devil you say? That hardly ever goes on, right?   

When it comes to welfare fraud.........i'd say it's about 50/50 with the genders......though, the ladies tend to have more $ thrown at them by all the programs. Which may be why the dudes sponge off of them.

What do you suppose she found so appealing about him that she made another baby with him?

[merh]

Dec 8, 2022 12:51:10 GMT abbey1227 said:

Dec 8, 2022 7:18:04 GMT merh said:

BECAUSE THE MODEL WAS CREATED THEN?
SO FOLLOWING THE MODEL MEANS THE GUY PAYS?
Or the person who asks.  I always thought the person who invites pays. If the gal invites, she pays.
"Would you like to meet me" sort of suggests the asker is offering.

Not to mention NOT ALL WOMEN BUY INTO FEMINISM. If you are dating a gal who voices distaste for feminism,  who says she isn't a feminism,  why would you expect her traditionalist ass to pay her own way?

LOTS OF GUYS live off the women in their lives.
You, for example.
You say you split 50/50.
So she has tons of money in the bank, or she buys the extras? 

My husband made less than me several times. Lived on unemployment for a couple years a couple times while I worked my ass in that laundry & with my government job. He liked his long "vacations"
And a lot of my clients were perfectly content to watch Oprah on their baby mama's couch, living off her welfare money.
So stuff it.
You love to paint women as lazy sponges, but lots of guys are as well.
I worked with a gal who let the meth-head father of her youngest child live in her garage or he would have been homeless.

Are the majority of people really embracing many things from back in that era? Sounds a bit MAGA to me. 

That IS how it used to be in those olde sexist days when men/pigs EXPECTED something in return for their paying. But today? In these days of feminism and equality? I would think just to make sure nobody gets the wrong idea about intentions or expectations......women would make sure to pick up their share of the bill.

I would expect a woman to expect to pay for her meal........unless I expressly told her ahead of time that I'd pick up the entire tab.

The wife and I usually take turns paying.....cuz we know where the other person lives.   

I can not convince my wife to let me vacay or retire even though her income is now more than enough to cover both of our expenses. She's weird and sexist like that, I guess. 

Living off of other peoples' welfare money? The Devil you say? That hardly ever goes on, right?   

When it comes to welfare fraud.........i'd say it's about 50/50 with the genders......though, the ladies tend to have more $ thrown at them by all the programs. Which may be why the dudes sponge off of them.

What do you suppose she found so appealing about him that she made another baby with him?

Her husband/father if her first 2 kids died. They were separated & talking divorce when he vanished. His body was found in the car in a lake when the winter overflow went down. He had gone off the road, a 2 lane highway that didn't get much traffic that time of year.

The next dude resembled Chuck Norris. 
They had a kid together. 
He was an addict.
He finally cleaned up & she got him a job with the government.
Then he got lymphoma & died.
Co-worker had to work so she watched him some of the time, his mom the rest. He wanted his life insurance to go to the kid. His mom got him to change the beneficiary to her.

Money.

And I said I have worked with many gals supporting guys.

But go on thinking it's the women who are sponges.

Fortune
Men are dropping out of the labor force because they’re upset about their social status, according to a new study
Prarthana Prakash
Wed, December 7, 2022 at 2:43 PM
Pay transparency is ‘the first step’ in addressing the gender wage gap: EconomistScroll back up to restore default view.
The job market in the U.S. has remained hot this year despite the Federal Reserve’s best efforts to cool it down, and unemployment is at just 3.7%, close to a 50-year low.

But part of the population has been silently walking away from work for several decades—well before the COVID-19 pandemic began.

Men without four-year college degrees, between the ages of 25 and 54, have left the workforce in higher numbers than other groups. And they’re leaving in part because of their perceived social status relative to better-educated men of similar age, according to a new study from the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston.

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Non-college-educated men have seen their pay shrink by more than 30% since 1980 compared to the average earnings of all other prime-age workers. Their weekly earnings have declined 17%, while those of college-educated men rose by 20%, adjusting for inflation. That earnings loss has caused a decline in their social status, prompting them to walk away from work entirely, Pinghui Wu, the author of the study, wrote.

“For many workers, a job not only offers financial security, it also affirms their status, which is tied to their position relative to their age peers and many social outcomes,” Wu wrote.

The study found that the decline in earnings for non-college-educated men over the last four decades has increased their likelihood of leaving the labor force by nearly half a percentage point. That also accounts for 44% of the increase in their exit rate.

Even though the pattern of men withdrawing from the labor force dates back several years, it has been more pronounced in recent years, as a number of men who left the workforce during the pandemic chose not to return.


Nearly 89.7% of men between 35 to 44 years were looking for jobs or already working as of November. That’s down from 90.9% before the pandemic, according to the New York Times.

Younger white men in particular were more likely to leave when their expected wages fell relative to their more educated peers, according to the Fed study. Unlike men, women have not seen the same level of decline in their wages based on education. That group has seen a 32% increase in weekly earnings, irrespective of their educational qualifications.

There have been numerous studies investigating the decline of non-college educated prime-age men in the labor force over the past 40 years. Some have linked the decline in male labor force participation to the contraction of manufacturing jobs in the U.S., since men were disproportionately represented in the manufacturing sector. However, Wu says that explanation does not explain the persistence of the decline in prime-age men’s labor participation over several years.

“If the increasing wage gap between high and low earners directly or indirectly affects men’s aggregate labor supply, wage inequality might have carried wider implications to the economy than previously believed,” Wu wrote

[abbey1227]

Dec 8, 2022 22:55:41 GMT merh said:

Her husband/father if her first 2 kids died. They were separated & talking divorce when he vanished. His body was found in the car in a lake when the winter overflow went down. He had gone off the road, a 2 lane highway that didn't get much traffic that time of year.

The next dude resembled Chuck Norris. 
They had a kid together. 
He was an addict.
He finally cleaned up & she got him a job with the government.
Then he got lymphoma & died.
Co-worker had to work so she watched him some of the time, his mom the rest. He wanted his life insurance to go to the kid. His mom got him to change the beneficiary to her.

Money.

And I said I have worked with many gals supporting guys.

But go on thinking it's the women who are sponges.

Fortune
Men are dropping out of the labor force because they’re upset about their social status, according to a new study

I've told you scheming and graft are a part of people in all walks of life. I've seen no less than 4-5 families get torn asunder after a death/inheritance argument in recent years.

I will go on believing it's much more easy and far more prevalent for females to sponge off guys rather than the other way around. Yes, they both do it. I'm doing it right now, right? 

And why wouldn't they? After a few years of watching the welfare get handed out in record amounts? This is the result of such policies and approach. Democracy is done for.

[merh]

Dec 9, 2022 2:45:22 GMT abbey1227 said:

Dec 8, 2022 22:55:41 GMT merh said:

Her husband/father if her first 2 kids died. They were separated & talking divorce when he vanished. His body was found in the car in a lake when the winter overflow went down. He had gone off the road, a 2 lane highway that didn't get much traffic that time of year.

The next dude resembled Chuck Norris. 
They had a kid together. 
He was an addict.
He finally cleaned up & she got him a job with the government.
Then he got lymphoma & died.
Co-worker had to work so she watched him some of the time, his mom the rest. He wanted his life insurance to go to the kid. His mom got him to change the beneficiary to her.

Money.

And I said I have worked with many gals supporting guys.

But go on thinking it's the women who are sponges.

I've told you scheming and graft are a part of people in all walks of life. I've seen no less than 4-5 families get torn asunder after a death/inheritance argument in recent years.

I will go on believing it's much more easy and far more prevalent for females to sponge off guys rather than the other way around. Yes, they both do it. I'm doing it right now, right? 

And why wouldn't they? After a few years of watching the welfare get handed out in record amounts? This is the result of such policies and approach. Democracy is done for.

Doesn't fit your narrative 

Men without four-year college degrees, between the ages of 25 and 54, have left the workforce in higher numbers than other groups. And they’re leaving in part because of their perceived social status relative to better-educated men of similar age, according to a new study from the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston.

Non-college-educated men have seen their pay shrink by more than 30% since 1980 compared to the average earnings of all other prime-age workers. Their weekly earnings have declined 17%, while those of college-educated men rose by 20%, adjusting for inflation. That earnings loss has caused a decline in their social status, prompting them to walk away from work entirely, Pinghui Wu, the author of the study, wrote

BUT THEY DONT NEED TO GO TO COLLEGE!!!

The work environment has changed.

They aren't able to survive as they did in years past 

Like the opioid crisis fueled by despair 

[abbey1227]

Dec 11, 2022 4:50:27 GMT merh said:

Non-college-educated men have seen their pay shrink by more than 30% since 1980 compared to the average earnings of all other prime-age workers. Their weekly earnings have declined 17%, while those of college-educated men rose by 20%, adjusting for inflation. That earnings loss has caused a decline in their social status, prompting them to walk away from work entirely, Pinghui Wu, the author of the study, wroteBUT THEY DONT NEED TO GO TO COLLEGE!!!

The work environment has changed.

They aren't able to survive as they did in years past 

Like the opioid crisis fueled by despair 

so you're still buying the propaganda? Maybe those guys didn't go to college......but didn't exactly take up a trade or acquire a skill worthy of higher pay, too? Like me. 

The work environment changed because we shipped a ton of manufacturing overseas. We're now a 'Service Oriented' society.......too bad we suck at service.

Despair? or too much partying? Notice, they find the money for opioids.

[merh]

Dec 11, 2022 12:25:04 GMT abbey1227 said:

Dec 11, 2022 4:50:27 GMT merh said:

Non-college-educated men have seen their pay shrink by more than 30% since 1980 compared to the average earnings of all other prime-age workers. Their weekly earnings have declined 17%, while those of college-educated men rose by 20%, adjusting for inflation. That earnings loss has caused a decline in their social status, prompting them to walk away from work entirely, Pinghui Wu, the author of the study, wroteBUT THEY DONT NEED TO GO TO COLLEGE!!!

The work environment has changed.

They aren't able to survive as they did in years past 

Like the opioid crisis fueled by despair 

so you're still buying the propaganda? Maybe those guys didn't go to college......but didn't exactly take up a trade or acquire a skill worthy of higher pay, too? Like me. 

The work environment changed because we shipped a ton of manufacturing overseas. We're now a 'Service Oriented' society.......too bad we suck at service.

Despair? or too much partying? Notice, they find the money for opioids.

Men without four-year college degrees, between the ages of 25 and 54, have left the workforce in higher numbers than other groups. And they’re leaving in part because of their perceived social status relative to better-educated men of similar age, according to a new study from the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston

From that Fortune article I posted.

These guys listened to the guys you listened to that told them they didn't need college yet they find themselves at a lower status than the white collar college educated guys

Isn't that the story?

In the United States, the opioid epidemic (also known as the opioid crisis) is an extensive ongoing overuse of opioid medications, both from medical prescriptions and from illegal sources. The epidemic began in the United States in the late 1990s, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), when opioids were increasingly prescribed for pain management and resulted in a rise in overall opioid use throughout subsequent years.The great majority of Americans who use prescription opioids do not believe that they are misusing them.

There were around 100,300 drug overdose deaths in the US in the 12-month period ending April 30, 2021. From 1999 to 2020, nearly 841,000 people died from drug overdoses, with prescription and illicit opioids being responsible for more than 500,000 of those deaths, up to 2019. In 2017 alone, there were 70,237 recorded drug overdose deaths, and of those deaths, 47,600 involved an opioid. A report from December 2017 estimated 130 people every day in the United States die from an opioid-related drug overdose

The epidemic has been described as a "uniquely American problem". The structure of the U.S. healthcare system, in which people not qualifying for government programs are required to obtain private insurance, favors prescribing drugs over more expensive therapies. According to Professor Judith Feinberg, "Most insurance, especially for poor people, won't pay for anything but a pill." Prescription rates for opioids in the United States are 40 percent higher than the rate in other developed countries such as Germany or Canada. While the rates of opioid prescriptions increased between 2001 and 2010, the prescription of non-opioid pain relievers (aspirin, ibuprofen, etc.) decreased from 38% to 29% of ambulatory visits in the same time period,  and there has been no change in the amount of pain reported in the United States. This has led to differing medical opinions, with some noting that there is little evidence that opioids are effective for chronic pain not caused by cancer.

Remember?

[abbey1227]

Dec 13, 2022 2:53:27 GMT merh said:

From that Fortune article I posted.

These guys listened to the guys you listened to that told them they didn't need college yet they find themselves at a lower status than the white collar college educated guys

Isn't that the story?

Remember?

Status? Who gives a crap about status? You think a banker or investment manager is more important in your life than a plumber or a mechanic?

It's tough to argue all the student loan debt is worth the trouble and extra income ON PAPER still, isn't it?

There's many stories to choose from. Depends which ones you wanna believe. My point was most Americans always seem to find enough money for their wants/vices..........but never enough for their needs/necessities. And enabling them with BS excuses regarding addictions and whatnot is not helping the matter. Uniquely American?    That's just another term for a special kinda stupid.

[merh]

Dec 13, 2022 4:16:28 GMT abbey1227 said:

Dec 13, 2022 2:53:27 GMT merh said:

From that Fortune article I posted.

These guys listened to the guys you listened to that told them they didn't need college yet they find themselves at a lower status than the white collar college educated guys

Isn't that the story?

Remember?

Status? Who gives a crap about status? You think a banker or investment manager is more important in your life than a plumber or a mechanic?

It's tough to argue all the student loan debt is worth the trouble and extra income ON PAPER still, isn't it?

There's many stories to choose from. Depends which ones you wanna believe. My point was most Americans always seem to find enough money for their wants/vices..........but never enough for their needs/necessities. And enabling them with BS excuses regarding addictions and whatnot is not helping the matter. Uniquely American?    That's just another term for a special kinda stupid.

Yet that banker can work well into his 70s or 80s if he chooses while that plumber is probably in pain & taking medication because of the physical work. That mechanic as well. 

REPEAT FROM WIKIPEDIA 

The epidemic has been described as a "uniquely American problem". The structure of the U.S. healthcare system, in which people not qualifying for government programs are required to obtain private insurance, favors prescribing drugs over more expensive therapies. According to Professor Judith Feinberg, "Most insurance, especially for poor people, won't pay for anything but a pill." Prescription rates for opioids in the United States are 40 percent higher than the rate in other developed countries such as Germany or Canada. While the rates of opioid prescriptions increased between 2001 and 2010, the prescription of non-opioid pain relievers (aspirin, ibuprofen, etc.) decreased from 38% to 29% of ambulatory visits in the same time period, and there has been no change in the amount of pain reported in the United States. This has led to differing medical opinions, with some noting that there is little evidence that opioids are effective for chronic pain not caused by cancer.

So knee pain.
Surgery needed.
Insurance won't pay for that, just meds.
Here, take a pill. Work thru the pain so the joint gets more damage

Meanwhile that banker in sitting in a chair, maybe the job pays for a gym membership & premium health insurance that probably would pay for that knee.

[abbey1227]

Dec 14, 2022 20:24:30 GMT merh said:

Yet that banker can work well into his 70s or 80s if he chooses while that plumber is probably in pain & taking medication because of the physical work. That mechanic as well. 

REPEAT FROM WIKIPEDIA 

The epidemic has been described as a "uniquely American problem". The structure of the U.S. healthcare system, in which people not qualifying for government programs are required to obtain private insurance, favors prescribing drugs over more expensive therapies. According to Professor Judith Feinberg, "Most insurance, especially for poor people, won't pay for anything but a pill."

So knee pain.
Surgery needed.
Insurance won't pay for that, just meds.
Here, take a pill. Work thru the pain so the joint gets more damage

Meanwhile that banker in sitting in a chair, maybe the job pays for a gym membership & premium health insurance that probably would pay for that knee.

There's also the thing many don't realize, when it comes to knees......... insurance/doctors prefer to wait until people are older because you can only replace it so many times.

We're a pill popping society. No doubt about that.

Let me just repeat myself, too.........going into a field that's going to be hard on your body, YOU have to realize you likely can't do it forever, so make arrangements. Become a supervisor. owner/boss yourself.

[merh]

Dec 15, 2022 1:42:18 GMT abbey1227 said:

Dec 14, 2022 20:24:30 GMT merh said:

Yet that banker can work well into his 70s or 80s if he chooses while that plumber is probably in pain & taking medication because of the physical work. That mechanic as well. 

REPEAT FROM WIKIPEDIA 

So knee pain.
Surgery needed.
Insurance won't pay for that, just meds.
Here, take a pill. Work thru the pain so the joint gets more damage

Meanwhile that banker in sitting in a chair, maybe the job pays for a gym membership & premium health insurance that probably would pay for that knee.

There's also the thing many don't realize, when it comes to knees......... insurance/doctors prefer to wait until people are older because you can only replace it so many times.

We're a pill popping society. No doubt about that.

Let me just repeat myself, too.........going into a field that's going to be hard on your body, YOU have to realize you likely can't do it forever, so make arrangements. Become a supervisor. owner/boss yourself.

But everyone is living paycheck to paycheck.

Officers who make way more than I do say they can't afford.cobra when they retire.

[abbey1227]

Dec 15, 2022 13:32:26 GMT merh said:

Dec 15, 2022 1:42:18 GMT abbey1227 said:

There's also the thing many don't realize, when it comes to knees......... insurance/doctors prefer to wait until people are older because you can only replace it so many times.

We're a pill popping society. No doubt about that.

Let me just repeat myself, too.........going into a field that's going to be hard on your body, YOU have to realize you likely can't do it forever, so make arrangements. Become a supervisor. owner/boss yourself.

But everyone is living paycheck to paycheck.

Officers who make way more than I do say they can't afford.cobra when they retire.

Carefully notice how that 'paycheck to paycheck' hardly changes no matter how much the typical American makes. They start making a ton more money? They go out and spend a ton more money. THAT's how they've been trained. I have at least 2 buddies that blow thru money like nobody's business.....and they can't ever seem to stop. And they're both coming up on retirement age......so what's the solution?

Cobra is crazy expensive. I couldn't believe it when I heard. My wife is very worried about that gap between retiring.......and being covered by Medicare/etc

Think on this little nugget..........the typical American doesn't have $400 in an Emergency. So what shot do they have at Cobra or the ACA deductible? mush less, the typical auto they own is an SUV. Have you checked out the price on a new set of 16" tires all around? That's easily $1200 or more. And they don't have that either. Credit Cards/Loans. That's HOW they live.

[merh]

Dec 15, 2022 14:44:41 GMT abbey1227 said:

Dec 15, 2022 13:32:26 GMT merh said:

But everyone is living paycheck to paycheck.

Officers who make way more than I do say they can't afford.cobra when they retire.

Carefully notice how that 'paycheck to paycheck' hardly changes no matter how much the typical American makes. They start making a ton more money? They go out and spend a ton more money. THAT's how they've been trained. I have at least 2 buddies that blow thru money like nobody's business.....and they can't ever seem to stop. And they're both coming up on retirement age......so what's the solution?

Cobra is crazy expensive. I couldn't believe it when I heard. My wife is very worried about that gap between retiring.......and being covered by Medicare/etc

Think on this little nugget..........the typical American doesn't have $400 in an Emergency. So what shot do they have at Cobra or the ACA deductible? mush less, the typical auto they own is an SUV. Have you checked out the price on a new set of 16" tires all around? That's easily $1200 or more. And they don't have that either. Credit Cards/Loans. That's HOW they live.

My cobra is $613/mo. My dental is $46/mo.

But the American Healthcare system is perfect.

The tire I bought for my truck was $160.

Too many people just can't catch a break

[abbey1227]

Dec 17, 2022 1:53:29 GMT merh said:

My cobra is $613/mo. My dental is $46/mo.

But the American Healthcare system is perfect.

The tire I bought for my truck was $160.

Too many people just can't catch a break

I wasn't aware 'perfect' existed anywhere people were involved.

After watching several series based in other countries (with UHC) I'm still not convinced they're better or happier.

Believe it or not, you may have gotten off cheap with that tire.

You make your own breaks often enough.

[merh]

Dec 17, 2022 3:16:42 GMT abbey1227 said:

Dec 17, 2022 1:53:29 GMT merh said:

My cobra is $613/mo. My dental is $46/mo.

But the American Healthcare system is perfect.

The tire I bought for my truck was $160.

Too many people just can't catch a break

I wasn't aware 'perfect' existed anywhere people were involved.

After watching several series based in other countries (with UHC) I'm still not convinced they're better or happier.

Believe it or not, you may have gotten off cheap with that tire.

You make your own breaks often enough.

Yet we are paying double what they are so maybe if we switched we could save some bucks or get better than what they are getting.


I always go to Discount Tire

[abbey1227]

Dec 18, 2022 16:49:35 GMT merh said:

Dec 17, 2022 3:16:42 GMT abbey1227 said:

I wasn't aware 'perfect' existed anywhere people were involved.

After watching several series based in other countries (with UHC) I'm still not convinced they're better or happier.

Believe it or not, you may have gotten off cheap with that tire.

You make your own breaks often enough.

Yet we are paying double what they are so maybe if we switched we could save some bucks or get better than what they are getting.


I always go to Discount Tire

merh, in your entire life............when have you seen Govt successfully get a program together and actually lower prices on anything? Hammers in the military? $2500/yr savings from the ACA? And you don't get to count something you receive subsidized.........because that's just shifting the cost to others. It's NOT delivering on the promise of actually lowering costs.

Well, I'm glad they're treating you right.