|
|
Post by abbey1227 on Nov 14, 2022 15:16:18 GMT
We've had 2+ years of Trickle Up...........how's the economy doing?
Really? I have seen a bunch of Congress dragging its ass. Manchin & Sinema holding everything up.
They handed out how much tax money since 2020?
|
|
|
|
Post by abbey1227 on Nov 14, 2022 15:19:55 GMT
That's sorta what I figured........they got those tapettes on the side. It's self-contained and fairly self explanatory.
Those things rip off pretty easy, at least back in the 90s when my kid was in huggies
I'm guessing that Raising Arizona quote went over your head? BUT you did get the brand name correct, 
|
|
|
|
Post by permutojoe on Nov 14, 2022 17:28:08 GMT
Trickle up worked just fine, which didn’t come as a surprise. The corporations just decided to cash in with price gouging, which caused inflation not to mention supply chain issues which also slows down growth in the long run.
|
|
|
|
Post by abbey1227 on Nov 15, 2022 3:48:35 GMT
Trickle up worked just fine, which didn’t come as a surprise. The corporations just decided to cash in with price gouging, which caused inflation not to mention supply chain issues which also slows down growth in the long run.
So just keep sending out the stimulus payments? Everything will be fine?
|
|
|
|
Post by permutojoe on Nov 15, 2022 3:53:40 GMT
Trickle up worked just fine, which didn’t come as a surprise. The corporations just decided to cash in with price gouging, which caused inflation not to mention supply chain issues which also slows down growth in the long run.
So just keep sending out the stimulus payments? Everything will be fine?
Not as long as the capitalists can price gouge at will. We gotta figure out which is more important, profits for corporations or a decent place for folks to live. We clearly can’t have both. |
|
|
|
Post by abbey1227 on Nov 15, 2022 4:04:47 GMT
So just keep sending out the stimulus payments? Everything will be fine?
Not as long as the capitalists can price gouge at will. We gotta figure out which is more important, profits for corporations or a decent place for folks to live. We clearly can’t have both.
Lemme guess.........a chicken in every pot.........and a home for every person? ........ALL at taxpayers' expense. ![[rolleye1]](//storage.proboards.com/7182076/images/MTjbungPBOzv0BKQvdPJ.gif)
And we're all well aware of what half the country thinks about profits these days
|
|
|
|
Post by permutojoe on Nov 15, 2022 4:11:45 GMT
Not as long as the capitalists can price gouge at will. We gotta figure out which is more important, profits for corporations or a decent place for folks to live. We clearly can’t have both.
Lemme guess.........a chicken in every pot.........and a home for every person? ........ALL at taxpayers' expense.
And we're all well aware of what half the country thinks about profits these days
How about decent jobs, affordable healthcare and college in the richest country on the planet? And idk maybe stop transferring trillions from the middle class to the billionaires on a regular basis? That's really all we need, don't you think? |
|
|
|
Post by abbey1227 on Nov 15, 2022 4:19:10 GMT
Lemme guess.........a chicken in every pot.........and a home for every person? ........ALL at taxpayers' expense.
And we're all well aware of what half the country thinks about profits these days
How about decent jobs, affordable healthcare and college in the richest country on the planet? And idk maybe stop transferring trillions from the middle class to the billionaires on a regular basis? That's really all we need, don't you think?
We have decent jobs........most are better than other places offer, hence all the border crashing.
We have excellent healthcare, but Govt involvement has made it ridiculously expensive.
I don't believe we're the richest country on the planet. Not by a long shot. Too many poor people and we keep adding more.
Stop doing business? Stop offering goods and services that people willing for over their money for? Weird.
No. All we need is millions more willing to take a lot more personal responsibility for themselves. And likely millions more than that to freely offer up their time and service doing charitable works like they insist the Govt should be providing.........but instead they transfer trillions from tax payers and allow politicians to skim their cut first and possibly some of it trickles down to their intended targets.
|
|
|
|
Post by permutojoe on Nov 15, 2022 4:28:37 GMT
How about decent jobs, affordable healthcare and college in the richest country on the planet? And idk maybe stop transferring trillions from the middle class to the billionaires on a regular basis? That's really all we need, don't you think?
We have decent jobs........most are better than other places offer, hence all the border crashing.
We have excellent healthcare, but Govt involvement has made it ridiculously expensive.
I don't believe we're the richest country on the planet. Not by a long shot. Too many poor people and we keep adding more.
Stop doing business? Stop offering goods and services that people willing for over their money for? Weird.
No. All we need is millions more willing to take a lot more personal responsibility for themselves. And likely millions more than that to freely offer up their time and service doing charitable works like they insist the Govt should be providing.........but instead they transfer trillions from tax payers and allow politicians to skim their cut first and possibly some of it trickles down to their intended targets.
You mean all the 3rd world countries that we're now competing with thanks to so called free trade? Whatever happened to that whole thing where we were supposed to get more upper middle class jobs in exchange for losing our manufacturing? That wasn't just a big lie, was it? |
|
|
|
Post by abbey1227 on Nov 15, 2022 4:41:23 GMT
We have decent jobs........most are better than other places offer, hence all the border crashing.
You mean all the 3rd world countries that we're now competing with thanks to so called free trade? Whatever happened to that whole thing where we were supposed to get more upper middle class jobs in exchange for losing our manufacturing? That wasn't just a big lie, was it?
Yet again, the Govt fails it's own people here by not protecting us from extremely cheap labor overseas.
You'd need upper middle class types to fill those jobs......and our public schools have failed to produce those, as well. Thanks, Govt .......again.
Even in the high tech areas, they've chosen to import highly trained/educated people from overseas willing to work for less here, than US citizens who are saddled with much higher student debt from those publicly funded US universities. Thanks, Govt.
Seeing a trend yet?
|
|
|
|
Post by permutojoe on Nov 15, 2022 4:47:46 GMT
You mean all the 3rd world countries that we're now competing with thanks to so called free trade? Whatever happened to that whole thing where we were supposed to get more upper middle class jobs in exchange for losing our manufacturing? That wasn't just a big lie, was it?
Yet again, the Govt fails it's own people here by not protecting us from extremely cheap labor overseas.
You'd need upper middle class types to fill those jobs......and our public schools have failed to produce those, as well. Thanks, Govt .......again.
Even in the high tech areas, they've chosen to import highly trained/educated people from overseas willing to work for less here, than US citizens who are saddled with much higher student debt from those publicly funded US universities. Thanks, Govt.
Seeing a trend yet?
Yes I think I do, now that you mention it. Who is buying up these politicians and why do we continue to let them steal all that money from our middle class and use it to bribe/reconfigure our political landscape instead of using it to provide basic services like governments are supposed to do? |
|
|
|
Post by abbey1227 on Nov 15, 2022 4:51:59 GMT
Yet again, the Govt fails it's own people here by not protecting us from extremely cheap labor overseas.
You'd need upper middle class types to fill those jobs......and our public schools have failed to produce those, as well. Thanks, Govt .......again.
Even in the high tech areas, they've chosen to import highly trained/educated people from overseas willing to work for less here, than US citizens who are saddled with much higher student debt from those publicly funded US universities. Thanks, Govt.
Seeing a trend yet?
Yes I think I do, now that you mention it. Who is buying up these politicians and why do we continue to let them steal all that money from our middle class and use it to bribe/reconfigure our political landscape instead of using it to provide basic services like governments are supposed to do?
2 competing teams that are, in reality, one and the same. The Establishment.
This is why I favor personal responsibility over looking for ever more handouts from above. You spend your own money carefully, I hope?
|
|
|
|
Post by permutojoe on Nov 15, 2022 16:03:52 GMT
Yes I think I do, now that you mention it. Who is buying up these politicians and why do we continue to let them steal all that money from our middle class and use it to bribe/reconfigure our political landscape instead of using it to provide basic services like governments are supposed to do?
2 competing teams that are, in reality, one and the same. The Establishment.
This is why I favor personal responsibility over looking for ever more handouts from above. You spend your own money carefully, I hope?
Hell no I live it up. And if I run out of money I’ll just make use of the safety nets that I paid into and have coming. You can’t have the guys at the very top just looting the treasury every year, pay less and less taxes, and not let the working man have a little fun too. Never understood that about you. |
|
|
|
Post by abbey1227 on Nov 15, 2022 16:45:23 GMT
2 competing teams that are, in reality, one and the same. The Establishment.
This is why I favor personal responsibility over looking for ever more handouts from above. You spend your own money carefully, I hope?
Hell no I live it up. And if I run out of money I’ll just make use of the safety nets that I paid into and have coming. You can’t have the guys at the very top just looting the treasury every year, pay less and less taxes, and not let the working man have a little fun too. Never understood that about you.
Which part? Having pride and a conscience? Self-respect?
|
|
|
|
Post by permutojoe on Nov 15, 2022 17:10:47 GMT
Hell no I live it up. And if I run out of money I’ll just make use of the safety nets that I paid into and have coming. You can’t have the guys at the very top just looting the treasury every year, pay less and less taxes, and not let the working man have a little fun too. Never understood that about you.
Which part? Having pride and a conscience? Self-respect?
The part where you love Socialism when it goes to billionaires but then hate it when a tiny bit goes to the middle class and poor. 😳 |
|
|
|
Post by abbey1227 on Nov 15, 2022 17:11:57 GMT
Which part? Having pride and a conscience? Self-respect?
The part where you love Socialism when it goes to billionaires but then hate it when a tiny bit goes to the middle class and poor. 😳
I have repeatedly called for an END to all welfare
|
|
|
|
Post by permutojoe on Nov 15, 2022 17:18:13 GMT
The part where you love Socialism when it goes to billionaires but then hate it when a tiny bit goes to the middle class and poor. 😳
I have repeatedly called for an END to all welfare
What you call for is giving everything to the billionaires, i.e. the right wing socialism that the GOP stands for. At least the Dems are willing to share a few crumbs with the other 99%. |
|
|
|
Post by abbey1227 on Nov 15, 2022 17:21:40 GMT
I have repeatedly called for an END to all welfare
What you call for is giving everything to the billionaires, i.e. the right wing socialism that the GOP stands for. At least the Dems are willing to share a few crumbs with the other 99%.
You are really buying into a stereotype.
I am for EVERYONE making an income in the US paying their share of taxes IN.
I am against ANYONE getting taxes OUT........especially over and above any amount they ever paid in.
Crumbs, indeed. Americans are such cheap little whores, too. But they do love their celebs and political royalty. It's no wonder they always need leaders.
|
|
|
|
Post by permutojoe on Nov 15, 2022 17:51:36 GMT
What you call for is giving everything to the billionaires, i.e. the right wing socialism that the GOP stands for. At least the Dems are willing to share a few crumbs with the other 99%.
You are really buying into a stereotype.
I am for EVERYONE making an income in the US paying their share of taxes IN.
I am against ANYONE getting taxes OUT........especially over and above any amount they ever paid in.
Crumbs, indeed. Americans are such cheap little whores, too. But they do love their celebs and political royalty. It's no wonder they always need leaders.
No taxes out, huh? So a government that provides no services to its citizens. Sounds like a fun experiment. |
|
|
|
Post by Prometheus on Nov 16, 2022 2:00:27 GMT
You are really buying into a stereotype.
I am for EVERYONE making an income in the US paying their share of taxes IN.
I am against ANYONE getting taxes OUT........especially over and above any amount they ever paid in.
Crumbs, indeed. Americans are such cheap little whores, too. But they do love their celebs and political royalty. It's no wonder they always need leaders.
No taxes out, huh? So a government that provides no services to its citizens. Sounds like a fun experiment. TBF, I think Abbey was saying that there should be no refunds. Taxes are taxes not just micro-loans to the government.
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure he and I are on the same page with that one.
|
|
![[rolleye1]](http://storage.proboards.com/7182076/images/MTjbungPBOzv0BKQvdPJ.gif)
![[cheers]](http://storage.proboards.com/7182076/images/engyBVslEdpmpmdnBwZQ.gif)
