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Post by Prometheus on Oct 17, 2022 3:14:49 GMT
be eliminated or at least generally alleviated within a generation or two simply by creating a proper system of education?
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Post by ant-mac on Oct 17, 2022 12:31:10 GMT
be eliminated or at least generally alleviated within a generation or two simply by creating a proper system of education? The existing radioactive contamination at the sites of various nuclear accidents, nuclear weapons tests and nuclear waste storage. |
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Post by abbey1227 on Oct 17, 2022 13:04:44 GMT
be eliminated or at least generally alleviated within a generation or two simply by creating a proper system of education?
The problem with public education is in dealing with the general public. Generations of far more than two has proven that to be true.
A 'proper system of education' has yet to be invented that cures humanity of it's self-destructive patterns.
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Post by Prometheus on Oct 17, 2022 23:22:00 GMT
be eliminated or at least generally alleviated within a generation or two simply by creating a proper system of education? The existing radioactive contamination at the sites of various nuclear accidents, nuclear weapons tests and nuclear waste storage. Why can't a well-educated person come up with a solution? It seems the "Chernobyl Sarcophagus" - while imperfect, certainly can claim to alleviate some of the problem. ![[giveup]](//storage.proboards.com/7182076/images/FSYefibmKqtatIXMgHZg.gif) |
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Post by Prometheus on Oct 17, 2022 23:23:02 GMT
be eliminated or at least generally alleviated within a generation or two simply by creating a proper system of education?
The problem with public education is in dealing with the general public. Generations of far more than two has proven that to be true.
A 'proper system of education' has yet to be invented that cures humanity of it's self-destructive patterns.
That's because both sides seek to cure the problems rather than accept them and address them that way. |
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Post by abbey1227 on Oct 17, 2022 23:35:07 GMT
The problem with public education is in dealing with the general public. Generations of far more than two has proven that to be true.
A 'proper system of education' has yet to be invented that cures humanity of it's self-destructive patterns.
That's because both sides seek to cure the problems rather than accept them and address them that way.
There's also the reality of some people will just never submit/accept the offer/help.
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Post by Prometheus on Oct 18, 2022 0:31:37 GMT
That's because both sides seek to cure the problems rather than accept them and address them that way.
There's also the reality of some people will just never submit/accept the offer/help.
And I think that would be alleviated if we address it properly |
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Post by abbey1227 on Oct 18, 2022 0:32:44 GMT
There's also the reality of some people will just never submit/accept the offer/help.
And I think that would be alleviated if we address it properly
Now we're back over to the death penalty discussion.  |
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Post by Prometheus on Oct 18, 2022 0:36:00 GMT
And I think that would be alleviated if we address it properly
Now we're back over to the death penalty discussion. Yes. I suppose it's close enough. |
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Post by ant-mac on Oct 18, 2022 10:24:13 GMT
The existing radioactive contamination at the sites of various nuclear accidents, nuclear weapons tests and nuclear waste storage. Why can't a well-educated person come up with a solution? It seems the "Chernobyl Sarcophagus" - while imperfect, certainly can claim to alleviate some of the problem. I'm sure they could, but could this well-educated person come up with a solution to remove Chernobyl and its "sarcophagus" from the war zone it's currently in? Education and technology both wonderful, but Human behaviour is something else entirely. That's why I acknowledge your views on nuclear energy but will never agree with them. Humans simply can't be trusted with that sort of thing at their current stage of development. To borrow a quote from a mischievous and mysterious omnipotent super being, with a penchant for French starship captains and debating Vulcan science officers, Humans are still a "dangerous savage child race." |
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Post by Prometheus on Oct 18, 2022 11:24:21 GMT
Why can't a well-educated person come up with a solution? It seems the "Chernobyl Sarcophagus" - while imperfect, certainly can claim to alleviate some of the problem. I'm sure they could, but could this well-educated person come up with a solution to remove Chernobyl and its "sarcophagus" from the war zone it's currently in? Education and technology both wonderful, but Human behaviour is something else entirely. That's why I acknowledge your views on nuclear energy but will never agree with them. Humans simply can't be trusted with that sort of thing at their current stage of development. To borrow a quote from a mischievous and mysterious omnipotent super being, with a penchant for French starship captains and debating Vulcan science officers, Humans are still a "dangerous savage child race." 1. Hopefully a well-educated society wouldn't resort to war quite so often....
2. And yet there have actually been precious few "incidents" compared to the number of reactors and their millions (billions?) of hours of operation.
3. Which is why they need a good educational system
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Post by ant-mac on Oct 18, 2022 11:37:56 GMT
I'm sure they could, but could this well-educated person come up with a solution to remove Chernobyl and its "sarcophagus" from the war zone it's currently in? Education and technology both wonderful, but Human behaviour is something else entirely. That's why I acknowledge your views on nuclear energy but will never agree with them. Humans simply can't be trusted with that sort of thing at their current stage of development. To borrow a quote from a mischievous and mysterious omnipotent super being, with a penchant for French starship captains and debating Vulcan science officers, Humans are still a "dangerous savage child race." 1. Hopefully a well-educated society wouldn't resort to war quite so often....
2. And yet there have actually been precious few "incidents" compared to the number of reactors and their millions (billions?) of hours of operation.
3. Which is why they need a good educational system
1. You're starting to sound like me. 2. And yet, due to the nature of the materials we're discussing, it doesn't take much more than a precious few "incidents" to leave a lasting mark on our planet and our species... Of course, given enough time, our planet can probably recover, but the same probably couldn't be said for our species. 3. You're really starting to sound like me. PS - I do have sincere faith in the power of education and technology to overcome most, if not all, of the challenges we face... eventually. I just don't think our species as a whole is ready to embrace them whole-heartedly. And while I believe our species might one day reach that stage, I doubt any of us will see it happen in our lifetime. |
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Post by abbey1227 on Oct 18, 2022 11:42:53 GMT
1. Hopefully a well-educated society wouldn't resort to war quite so often....
2. And yet there have actually been precious few "incidents" compared to the number of reactors and their millions (billions?) of hours of operation.
3. Which is why they need a good educational system
1. Question: How many Harvard, Yale, Oxford, West Point etc etc etc have been involved in the many, many undeclared wars and operations that Washington, DC has involved with?
2. Good point. Makes you wonder why they haven't improved and built newer facilities, too. Like they have US submarines and aircraft carriers on a regular basis.
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Post by abbey1227 on Oct 18, 2022 11:44:11 GMT
And while I believe our species might one day reach that stage, I doubt any of us will see it happen in our lifetime.
^^^^^ Glass is Half full kinda guy ^^^^^^ |
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Post by ant-mac on Oct 18, 2022 11:48:43 GMT
And while I believe our species might one day reach that stage, I doubt any of us will see it happen in our lifetime.
^^^^^ Glass is Half full kinda guy ^^^^^^ Just as long as it's half full of the right stuff.  |
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Post by abbey1227 on Oct 18, 2022 11:52:51 GMT
^^^^^ Glass is Half full kinda guy ^^^^^^ Just as long as it's half full of the right stuff.
Shaken........not shhhhhtirred?
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Post by ant-mac on Oct 18, 2022 12:01:51 GMT
Just as long as it's half full of the right stuff.
Shaken........not shhhhhtirred?
Best way to prepare a chocolate milkshake.  |
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Post by Prometheus on Oct 18, 2022 13:01:55 GMT
1. Hopefully a well-educated society wouldn't resort to war quite so often....
2. And yet there have actually been precious few "incidents" compared to the number of reactors and their millions (billions?) of hours of operation.
3. Which is why they need a good educational system
1. You're starting to sound like me. 2. And yet, due to the nature of the materials we're discussing, it doesn't take much more than a precious few "incidents" to leave a lasting mark on our planet and our species... Of course, given enough time, our planet can probably recover, but the same probably couldn't be said for our species. 3. You're really starting to sound like me. PS - I do have sincere faith in the power of education and technology to overcome most, if not all, of the challenges we face... eventually. I just don't think our species as a whole is ready to embrace them whole-heartedly. And while I believe our species might one day reach that stage, I doubt any of us will see it happen in our lifetime. We're not going to see it.
And if we can't handle it... all we need is for a few thousand breeding pairs to survive the apocalypse to start over again and hopefully do better the next time.
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Post by Prometheus on Oct 18, 2022 13:08:48 GMT
1. Hopefully a well-educated society wouldn't resort to war quite so often....
2. And yet there have actually been precious few "incidents" compared to the number of reactors and their millions (billions?) of hours of operation.
3. Which is why they need a good educational system
1. Question: How many Harvard, Yale, Oxford, West Point etc etc etc have been involved in the many, many undeclared wars and operations that Washington, DC has involved with?
2. Good point. Makes you wonder why they haven't improved and built newer facilities, too. Like they have US submarines and aircraft carriers on a regular basis.
1. Do you suppose those people are properly educated?
2. People got scared in the US and cried, "STOP!" Not so in other countries that have made huge advances in nuclear power... including waste reduction.
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Post by ant-mac on Oct 18, 2022 13:21:22 GMT
1. You're starting to sound like me. 2. And yet, due to the nature of the materials we're discussing, it doesn't take much more than a precious few "incidents" to leave a lasting mark on our planet and our species... Of course, given enough time, our planet can probably recover, but the same probably couldn't be said for our species. 3. You're really starting to sound like me. PS - I do have sincere faith in the power of education and technology to overcome most, if not all, of the challenges we face... eventually. I just don't think our species as a whole is ready to embrace them whole-heartedly. And while I believe our species might one day reach that stage, I doubt any of us will see it happen in our lifetime. We're not going to see it.
And if we can't handle it... all we need is for a few thousand breeding pairs to survive the apocalypse to start over again and hopefully do better the next time.
I certainly wouldn't want to survive the apocalypse. If nuclear war were to break out, while most other people would be running around, panicking and scrabbling to find the nearest fallout shelter to hide in, I'd grab a packet of cigarettes - I quit nearly a decade ago - a six pack of beer and climb onto the nearest building's roof to watch the show. It's not that I want to die, but I wouldn't want to spend the remains of my short, miserable, painful life hiding in a hole in the ground, not knowing if my food, drink, medication or myself are contaminated with radiation. And I get the distinct impression that an impressive gaming history on GTA - even if I do say so myself - will not be a much sought after survival skill. All the things that I've loved most about my life - art, books, music, film, TV, video games - would most likely be things of the past and all I'd have to look forward to is a brutal, cruel, depressing life full of sacrifice and suffering, followed most likely by an extended and excruciating death from radiation poisoning... no thanks. PS - And to be perfectly honest, taking into account the current status of the world, you might simply be beating the rush to the Pearly Gates. |
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