Southern Baptists (Conservative Christians) and Sex

[abbey1227]

Jan 15, 2023 11:30:45 GMT merh said:

Snake-Handling Pentecostal Pastor Dies From Snake Bite
Jamie Coots of Middlesboro, Ky., refused treatment after being bitten.

Something about not tempting God...

So you're perfectly OK with stupidity hurting .........sometimes?

[merh]

Jan 15, 2023 13:40:21 GMT abbey1227 said:

Jan 15, 2023 11:30:45 GMT merh said:

Something about not tempting God...

So you're perfectly OK with stupidity hurting .........sometimes?

When Satan tempts Jesus to throw himself off a cliff or something so the angels will save him, Jesus says "thou shalt not tempt the lord thy God"

So, yeah. 
Doing dangerous stuff to make God save you is wrong.

[merh]

A Guy Says He Had a Heart Attack and Went to Hell in 2016. Here's What He Saw.
Tim Newcomb
Fri, January 20, 2023 at 11:43 AM PST
A priest says he briefly went to hell in 2016.

He saw men walking like dogs and heard demons singing Rihanna songs.

While many of the most publicized near-death experiences are more positive than this journey to hell, negative NDEs also occur.

In 2016, a Michigan-based priest named Gerald Johnson suffered a heart attack. He says he had a near-death experience (NDE) that sent him somewhere he never thought he’d visit: hell.

Recently, Johnson took to TikTok to share the details of his traumatic NDE—far from the kind of warm, bright-light epiphany you might expect to hear from someone who temporarily ventures into the great beyond.

“I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy,” Johnson recounts in the viral video. “I don’t care what he did to me. No one deserves that.”

Johnson says that immediately after his heart attack in February 2016, his spirit left his physical body and went down to hell, entering through “the very center of the Earth.” Though he says “the things I saw there are indescribable,” he did his best.

Johnson claims he saw a man walking on all fours like a dog and getting burned from head to toe:


“His eyes were bulging and worse than that: He was wearing chains on his neck. He was like a hellhound. There was a demon holding the chains."

Johnson also heard music in hell, including Rihanna’s “Umbrella” and Bobby McFerrin’s “Don’t Worry, Be Happy”—traditionally upbeat tunes. Only this time, demons were singing the songs to “torture” people.

Johnson says his hellacious NDE made him realize he needed to forgive people who had wronged him, instead of hoping for their punishment.

Maybe Johnson’s story sounds far-fetched to you. But scientists say that while many of the most publicized NDEs have a positive spin, negative NDEs certainly occur, too. The experts just aren’t entirely sure how—or why.


Researchers—especially those from the International Association for Near-Death Studies—believe NDEs most likely happen due to a change in blood flow to the brain during sudden life-threatening events, like a heart attack, blunt trauma, or even shock. As your brain starts losing blood and oxygen, the electrical activity within the brain begins to power down. “Like a town that loses power one neighborhood at a time, local regions of the brain go offline one after another,” one expert told Scientific American.

During a NDE, your mind is left to keep working, but without its normal operational parameters. Whether simply an oxygen shortage, some sort of anesthesia, or a neurochemical response to trauma, as hypothesized, the NDE leaves those who experience it with a real, sometimes traumatic memory. We may not know how that memory happened—and unlike Johnson and his trip to hell, victims may not want to recount it ever again—but it could change their life.

How does this priest know these songs?
Why did he go to hell?
Maybe he isn't as godly as he thinks he is?

[abbey1227]

Jan 22, 2023 10:58:58 GMT merh said:

A Guy Says He Had a Heart Attack and Went to Hell in 2016. Here's What He Saw.
Tim Newcomb
Fri, January 20, 2023 at 11:43 AM PST
A priest says he briefly went to hell in 2016.

He saw men walking like dogs and heard demons singing Rihanna songs.

While many of the most publicized near-death experiences are more positive than this journey to hell, negative NDEs also occur.

In 2016, a Michigan-based priest named Gerald Johnson suffered a heart attack. He says he had a near-death experience (NDE) that sent him somewhere he never thought he’d visit: hell.

Recently, Johnson took to TikTok to share the details of his traumatic NDE—far from the kind of warm, bright-light epiphany you might expect to hear from someone who temporarily ventures into the great beyond.

“I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy,” Johnson recounts in the viral video. “I don’t care what he did to me. No one deserves that.”

Johnson says that immediately after his heart attack in February 2016, his spirit left his physical body and went down to hell, entering through “the very center of the Earth.” Though he says “the things I saw there are indescribable,” he did his best.

Johnson claims he saw a man walking on all fours like a dog and getting burned from head to toe:


“His eyes were bulging and worse than that: He was wearing chains on his neck. He was like a hellhound. There was a demon holding the chains."

Johnson also heard music in hell, including Rihanna’s “Umbrella” and Bobby McFerrin’s “Don’t Worry, Be Happy”—traditionally upbeat tunes. Only this time, demons were singing the songs to “torture” people.

Johnson says his hellacious NDE made him realize he needed to forgive people who had wronged him, instead of hoping for their punishment.

Maybe Johnson’s story sounds far-fetched to you. But scientists say that while many of the most publicized NDEs have a positive spin, negative NDEs certainly occur, too. The experts just aren’t entirely sure how—or why.


Researchers—especially those from the International Association for Near-Death Studies—believe NDEs most likely happen due to a change in blood flow to the brain during sudden life-threatening events, like a heart attack, blunt trauma, or even shock. As your brain starts losing blood and oxygen, the electrical activity within the brain begins to power down. “Like a town that loses power one neighborhood at a time, local regions of the brain go offline one after another,” one expert told Scientific American.

During a NDE, your mind is left to keep working, but without its normal operational parameters. Whether simply an oxygen shortage, some sort of anesthesia, or a neurochemical response to trauma, as hypothesized, the NDE leaves those who experience it with a real, sometimes traumatic memory. We may not know how that memory happened—and unlike Johnson and his trip to hell, victims may not want to recount it ever again—but it could change their life.

How does this priest know these songs?
Why did he go to hell?
Maybe he isn't as godly as he thinks he is?

maybe it was just Detroit?

[gardengirl1953]

Jan 22, 2023 20:16:51 GMT abbey1227 said:

Jan 22, 2023 10:58:58 GMT merh said:

How does this priest know these songs?
Why did he go to hell?
Maybe he isn't as godly as he thinks he is?

maybe it was just Detroit?

Maybe he made it up to convince others to convert to his church or strengthen his parishioner's resolve to not sin?

I grew up hearing testimonials from people in the church. Back before NDEs, actually, about a visitation from Jesus or a saint or how they were miraculously healed of some affliction.

Drug addicts can hallucinate, not just religious folks. Schizophrenics can hallucinate if off their drugs.

Personal experience may convince one person with an NDE, but it proves nothing to others.

[abbey1227]

Jan 22, 2023 20:48:49 GMT gardengirl1953 said:

Maybe he made it up to convince others to convert to his church or strengthen his parishioner's resolve to not sin?

I grew up hearing testimonials from people in the church. Back before NDEs, actually, about a visitation from Jesus or a saint or how they were miraculously healed of some affliction.

Drug addicts can hallucinate, not just religious folks. Schizophrenics can hallucinate if off their drugs.

Personal experience may convince one person with an NDE, but it proves nothing to others.

It's sometimes very interesting to note what comforts people. Sometimes not.

Heaven knows the churches are seeing a bit of a decline in attendance, right?