Should We Make Cemeteries Obsolete?

[abbey1227]

All that very decent land taking up space for what? To house the remains of humans? Doesn't seem very in tune with nature.

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Can you not understand what they are for? It is to help with the grieving process and to show respect for those who have gone before us.
The act of trimming the weeds around the gravestone, placing flowers, etc. is a way to touch base. Also visiting and communicating with the dearly departed is a source of great comfort. But understanding all this would require an emotionally developed human being.

[Prometheus]

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^^^Disrespectful...and not particularly well thought out. But at the very least, you managed to get a like out of it.

[ant-mac]

Apr 25, 2022 1:24:06 GMT @adolf said:

^^^Disrespectful...and not particularly well thought out. But at the very least, you managed to get a like out of it.

Or simply non-committal.

For myself, while I appreciate that others might require a cemetery or a graveyard for the purposes you suggest, I don't personally share the need.

However, each to their own.  

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Apr 25, 2022 2:12:22 GMT ant-mac said:

Apr 25, 2022 1:24:06 GMT @adolf said:

^^^Disrespectful...and not particularly well thought out. But at the very least, you managed to get a like out of it.

Or simply non-committal.

 

Fair enough, but if one is non committal then why bother to post at all? A popcorn icon has connotations of...well, need I elaborate?

[ant-mac]

Apr 25, 2022 2:29:24 GMT @adolf said:

Apr 25, 2022 2:12:22 GMT ant-mac said:

Or simply non-committal.

 

Fair enough, but if one is non committal then why bother to post at all? A popcorn icon has connotations of...well, need I elaborate?

Of observing, but perhaps not yet ready to fully contribute to the conversation? 

There are many possible connotations... some positive, some negative, some neutral.

Once again, each to their own. 

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^^^Have you ever contemplated working for the United Nations? I do believe that you would be a good fit.

[abbey1227]

Apr 25, 2022 2:12:22 GMT ant-mac said:

Apr 25, 2022 1:24:06 GMT @adolf said:

^^^Disrespectful...and not particularly well thought out. But at the very least, you managed to get a like out of it.

Or simply non-committal.

For myself, while I appreciate that others might require a cemetery or a graveyard for the purposes you suggest, I don't personally share the need.

However, each to their own.  

Can't even ask questions anymore?  

I've often wondered how they operate as a sustainable business? Does that amount paid for a plot get put aside and earns interest so that the upkeep and operation of the business remains intact?

Do they keep track of plots that have not been visited in decades?

[ant-mac]

Apr 25, 2022 4:38:27 GMT abbey1227 said:

Apr 25, 2022 2:12:22 GMT ant-mac said:

Or simply non-committal.

For myself, while I appreciate that others might require a cemetery or a graveyard for the purposes you suggest, I don't personally share the need.

However, each to their own.  

Can't even ask questions anymore?  

I've often wondered how they operate as a sustainable business? Does that amount paid for a plot get put aside and earns interest so that the upkeep and operation of the business remains intact?

Do they keep track of plots that have not been visited in decades?

1. Are you asking me a question?!

How dare you! 

2. I can't speak for what happens in your country, but here, I assume the local city council maintains the cemetery, along with their other services, by using a portion of the council rates they collect from their residents.

3. I'm not sure how widely this is practiced, but I've heard that there are many places that impose a time limit on individual gravesites. Eventually, they are cleared out and reused for other "clients".

[abbey1227]

Apr 25, 2022 4:49:50 GMT ant-mac said:

1. Are you asking me a question?!

How dare you! 

2. I can't speak for what happens in your country, but here, I assume the local city council maintains the cemetery, along with their other services, by using a portion of the council rates they collect from their residents.

3. I'm not sure how widely this is practiced, but I've heard that there are many places that impose a time limit on individual gravesites. Eventually, they are cleared out and reused for other "clients".

I know we're not there........YET.    but whenever I see these little made up shrines where a person has died in an accident or murder, I often wonder how long til they run out of room for more?

We have such weird beliefs on the deceased, too. Whether it's the graveyard built over in Poltergeist.......... or the remains of people from long ago needing to be handled with such care and delicacy so as not to offend?

I brought it up awhile ago this aversion many people have to living in a home where someone has passed away?  Sooner or later, that's pretty much an eventuality, isn't it?

[Prometheus]

Apr 25, 2022 1:24:06 GMT @adolf said:

^^^Disrespectful...and not particularly well thought out. But at the very least, you managed to get a like out of it.

Actually, it means, "This ought to be fun, so I'll just sit here and watch."

Also, if you could please use the quote button or at least tag me in your responses to me, I'd appreciate it.

means, "Looking forward to your respectful cooperation."

[Prometheus]

Apr 25, 2022 4:38:27 GMT abbey1227 said:

Apr 25, 2022 2:12:22 GMT ant-mac said:

Or simply non-committal.

For myself, while I appreciate that others might require a cemetery or a graveyard for the purposes you suggest, I don't personally share the need.

However, each to their own.  

Can't even ask questions anymore?  

I've often wondered how they operate as a sustainable business? Does that amount paid for a plot get put aside and earns interest so that the upkeep and operation of the business remains intact?

Do they keep track of plots that have not been visited in decades?

I take it that you've never buried a family member.

Private cemeteries make money not only in the manner you suggested but also from the (usually) one-time fees associated with the digging of the grave, use of the on-site chapel etc.

Let's keep the number simple: If the plot per burial is 15 square feet and one acre is 43,560 that's a hair over 2,900n plots. The average price per plot is about $3,600. That's close to $10.5 million in revenue per acre.

Oddly, those mausoleum type situations where you see huge walls of marble are even more expensive and take up even less land.

Let's face it, if the business model weren't sustainable, there wouldn't be any private cemeteries in the US.

[abbey1227]

Apr 25, 2022 11:31:25 GMT Prometheus said:

I take it that you've never buried a family member.

Private cemeteries make money not only in the manner you suggested but also from the (usually) one-time fees associated with the digging of the grave, use of the on-site chapel etc.

Let's keep the number simple: If the plot per burial is 15 square feet and one acre is 43,560 that's a hair over 2,900n plots. The average price per plot is about $3,600. That's close to $10.5 million in revenue per acre.

Oddly, those mausoleum type situations where you see huge walls of marble are even more expensive and take up even less land.

Let's face it, if the business model weren't sustainable, there wouldn't be any private cemeteries in the US.

I haven't been required to do so personally.

Those mausoleums seem even creepier as a final resting spot........but oddly sanitary.

I find it interesting when there's money to be made down many different revenue streams......the flowers, the funeral home, the headstones, etc

[Prometheus]

Apr 25, 2022 12:16:13 GMT abbey1227 said:

Apr 25, 2022 11:31:25 GMT Prometheus said:

I take it that you've never buried a family member.

Private cemeteries make money not only in the manner you suggested but also from the (usually) one-time fees associated with the digging of the grave, use of the on-site chapel etc.

Let's keep the number simple: If the plot per burial is 15 square feet and one acre is 43,560 that's a hair over 2,900n plots. The average price per plot is about $3,600. That's close to $10.5 million in revenue per acre.

Oddly, those mausoleum type situations where you see huge walls of marble are even more expensive and take up even less land.

Let's face it, if the business model weren't sustainable, there wouldn't be any private cemeteries in the US.

I haven't been required to do so personally.

Those mausoleums seem even creepier as a final resting spot........but oddly sanitary.

I find it interesting when there's money to be made down many different revenue streams......the flowers, the funeral home, the headstones, etc

Death and taxes....

[abbey1227]

Apr 25, 2022 12:48:42 GMT Prometheus said:

Apr 25, 2022 12:16:13 GMT abbey1227 said:

I haven't been required to do so personally.

Those mausoleums seem even creepier as a final resting spot........but oddly sanitary.

I find it interesting when there's money to be made down many different revenue streams......the flowers, the funeral home, the headstones, etc

Death and taxes....

Mr. Brooks -"You always want to invest in something people always need." ....as he opened the gate to the graveyard he owned.

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Apr 25, 2022 11:15:54 GMT Prometheus said:

Apr 25, 2022 1:24:06 GMT @adolf said:

Also, if you could please use the quote button or at least tag me in your responses to me, I'd appreciate it.

Lord no...you wouldn't want to miss anything.

[ant-mac]

Apr 25, 2022 3:20:56 GMT @adolf said:

^^^Have you ever contemplated working for the United Nations? I do believe that you would be a good fit.

I was once a devotee of the United Nations Intelligence Taskforce, but due to changing times and political pressure, it was forced to rebrand.

[ant-mac]

Apr 25, 2022 14:13:55 GMT @adolf said:

Apr 25, 2022 11:15:54 GMT Prometheus said:

Also, if you could please use the quote button or at least tag me in your responses to me, I'd appreciate it.

Lord no...you wouldn't want to miss anything.

At least not anything addressed to or regarding the person in question.

It's common internet etiquette.

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Apr 25, 2022 19:12:37 GMT ant-mac said:

Apr 25, 2022 14:13:55 GMT @adolf said:

Lord no...you wouldn't want to miss anything.

At least not anything addressed to or regarding the person in question.

It's common internet etiquette.

Well if I give it (lectures) I guess I ought to be able to take it. By the way the United Nations just contacted me. They claim that you've lost some of your famous diplomacy, and they no longer want you.