Community Organizers vs Entreprenuers

[abbey1227]

Jun 10, 2022 22:34:16 GMT merh said:

After the movie yesterday, we hit Applebee's
Kid was pointing out some of the callbacks I missed like the boss of Biosyn (the badguy. Dodgeson) who apparently never created anything, just stole/bought other people's technology. Like fish that ate easy to catch for fishermen but taste crappy. I said "like Musk?" Kid said "Yes"

you guys are hilarious

So what if Musk is like Ray Kroc? He's done a ton more with the things he has bought than the people he bought them from. 

He's embarrassed the hell out of NASA just for starters.

And you'd think his electric cars would be making you all giddy

[merh]

Jun 11, 2022 12:34:52 GMT abbey1227 said:

Jun 10, 2022 22:34:16 GMT merh said:

After the movie yesterday, we hit Applebee's
Kid was pointing out some of the callbacks I missed like the boss of Biosyn (the badguy. Dodgeson) who apparently never created anything, just stole/bought other people's technology. Like fish that ate easy to catch for fishermen but taste crappy. I said "like Musk?" Kid said "Yes"

you guys are hilarious

So what if Musk is like Ray Kroc? He's done a ton more with the things he has bought than the people he bought them from. 

He's embarrassed the hell out of NASA just for starters.

And you'd think his electric cars would be making you all giddy

He bought the company.
He created none of the actual code or anything.
His coding apparently socks.

He buys the people to create his tech.

[merh]

And came from a rich family

[merh]

nypost.com/2022/06/09/life-on-larry-ellisons-hawaiian-island-is-only-for-the-super-rich/

Life on Larry Ellison’s Hawaiian island is so expensive only the super-rich could afford it
By Ariel Zilber
June 9, 2022 3:43pm Updated
Oracle billionaire Larry Ellison's purchase of a Hawaiian island ten years ago has made life there so expensive that residents who have been there for generations have been forced to leave, according to a report.

Tech billionaire Larry Ellison’s purchase of a Hawaiian island has made life so expensive at the tropical paradise that families who lived there for generations have been forced to leave, according to a report.

Ellison, the 77-year-old CEO of Oracle whose net worth has been pegged at $94.5 billion by Forbes, bought 98% of Lanai, a secluded island in Maui County, 10 years ago.

He paid $300 million for the island’s 90,000 acres, which include two Four Seasons resorts that provide most of the jobs, homes, and commercial properties for the approximately 3,000 local residents.

The Bronx-born Ellison, who built Oracle into a $200 billion behemoth, developed the area to the point where small business owners and other working-class residents have been priced out, according to Bloomberg.

Shortly after buying the island, he built a Nobu, the high-end Japanese restaurant where dinner for two could easily exceed $1,000.


Chris Andrus, who helped his friend Peter Franklin start up a business called Lanai Woodworkers, told Bloomberg that the company aided in building the restaurant.

But Ellison also bought the building where Lanai Woodworkers rented space. Ellison’s representatives told Franklin that he would either have to clear our or sell the business to the tech mogul, according to Bloomberg

Franklin sold the business to Ellison, who promised him a job. But Andrus was out of luck. At age 64, he was unemployed, so he decided to get a job delivering newspapers.

But the hotels that Ellison bought canceled their newspaper subscriptions — which cut Andrus’ business in half, according to Bloomberg.

Instead, the hotels started using iPads for their guests and they didn’t need hard copies of newspapers delivered to their rooms anymore.

After business dried up, Andrus said he fell behind on his utility bills. In January, Ellison’s holding company, Pulama Lanai, terminated his rental agreement.

Andrus is now relying on aid from Catholic Charities to help him pay rent at his home.

According to Bloomberg, Ellison owns all of the real estate on the island. If a resident is fired from a job at any of his companies, tenants can be kicked out of their homes on short notice.

Small businesses who rent space from Ellison are also forced to agree to 30-day leases, whereas before they were allowed to sign up for five-year terms.

Ellison has also invested serious sums of money in renovating facilities and infrastructure on the island — which has in turn attracted wealthier residents.

That means those who have lived there for generations, who earn a median income of $59,000, simply cannot afford the skyrocketing home prices.

Last week, just one property — a beachfront estate — was listed for sale. The asking price was $7.9 million.

Not all island residents are critical of Ellison. Gail Allen, the owner of a small gift shop who manages rental properties for Ellison’s visiting employees, told Bloomberg: “He’s amazing.”

“Don’t bite the hand that feeds you, please.”

The Post has reached out to Oracle seeking comment

[abbey1227]

Jun 11, 2022 17:14:01 GMT merh said:

Jun 11, 2022 12:34:52 GMT abbey1227 said:

you guys are hilarious

So what if Musk is like Ray Kroc? He's done a ton more with the things he has bought than the people he bought them from. 

He's embarrassed the hell out of NASA just for starters.

And you'd think his electric cars would be making you all giddy

He bought the company.
He created none of the actual code or anything.
His coding apparently socks.

He buys the people to create his tech.

His coding socks? 

And? If the end result is better things for more people.........why complain?

[abbey1227]

Jun 11, 2022 17:40:13 GMT merh said:

And came from a rich family

That's his big Sin apparently

[abbey1227]

Jun 11, 2022 20:21:20 GMT merh said:

nypost.com/2022/06/09/life-on-larry-ellisons-hawaiian-island-is-only-for-the-super-rich/

Life on Larry Ellison’s Hawaiian island is so expensive only the super-rich could afford it

Sounds a bit like the bluest cities these days. 

[merh]

Jun 12, 2022 2:36:55 GMT abbey1227 said:

Jun 11, 2022 17:14:01 GMT merh said:

He bought the company.
He created none of the actual code or anything.
His coding apparently socks.

He buys the people to create his tech.

His coding socks? 

And? If the end result is better things for more people.........why complain?

Damn, this phone is getting so damned aggressive at changing stuff...

Sucks 
It hates that word in particular 

[merh]

About ten years ago I was largely living off food donated to the church and also working for Safeway in the bakery. I would dump a couple grocery carts a day of baked goods past their sell by date. I asked the dept manager why we didn’t donate to the church since the food was obviously still good.

The reason?

Too much paperwork

Think it's modern?

"Dump potatoes in the rivers and place guards along the banks to keep the hungry people from fishing them out. Slaughter the pigs and bury them, and let the putrescence drip down into the earth.

There is a crime here that goes beyond denunciation. There is a sorrow here that weeping cannot symbolize. There is a failure here that topples all our success. The fertile earth, the straight tree rows, the sturdy trunks, and the ripe fruit. And children dying of pellagra must die because a profit cannot be taken from an orange. And coroners must fill in the certificate—died of malnutrition—because the food must rot, must be forced to rot.

The people come with nets to fish for potatoes in the river, and the guards hold them back; they come in rattling cars to get the dumped oranges, but the kerosene is sprayed. And they stand still and watch the potatoes float by, listen to the screaming pigs being killed in a ditch and covered with quick-lime, watch the mountains of oranges slop down to a putrefying ooze; and in the eyes of the people there is the failure; and in the eyes of the hungry there is a growing wrath. In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage."

-John Steinbeck

The Grapes of Wrath

[abbey1227]

Jun 12, 2022 18:06:53 GMT merh said:

Jun 12, 2022 2:36:55 GMT abbey1227 said:

His coding socks? 

And? If the end result is better things for more people.........why complain?

Damn, this phone is getting so damned aggressive at changing stuff...

Sucks 
It hates that word in particular 

it's the Govt and it's allies.........they WILL get you to think & speak the way they prefer.

[abbey1227]

Jun 12, 2022 18:09:26 GMT merh said:

About ten years ago I was largely living off food donated to the church and also working for Safeway in the bakery. I would dump a couple grocery carts a day of baked goods past their sell by date. I asked the dept manager why we didn’t donate to the church since the food was obviously still good.

The reason?

Too much paperwork

Think it's modern?

"Dump potatoes in the rivers and place guards along the banks to keep the hungry people from fishing them out. Slaughter the pigs and bury them, and let the putrescence drip down into the earth.

-John Steinbeck

The Grapes of Wrath

I don't think it's modern........ people have always had indifference and waste.

But Govt is worse than ever, imo

[merh]

Jun 12, 2022 23:17:43 GMT abbey1227 said:

Jun 12, 2022 18:09:26 GMT merh said:

Think it's modern?

I don't think it's modern........ people have always had indifference and waste.

But Govt is worse than ever, imo

That is a photo from Starbucks.
Comments are about private business.

My husband had to rip open bread, etc. at Safeway. The guys who collect it would bitch why not just let them take it? 
Because the store is worried it will end up at the Swap Meet getting sold with the other stuff thrown out by the store.

[abbey1227]

Jun 12, 2022 23:41:58 GMT merh said:

Jun 12, 2022 23:17:43 GMT abbey1227 said:

I don't think it's modern........ people have always had indifference and waste.

But Govt is worse than ever, imo

That is a photo from Starbucks.
Comments are about private business.

My husband had to rip open bread, etc. at Safeway. The guys who collect it would bitch why not just let them take it? 
Because the store is worried it will end up at the Swap Meet getting sold with the other stuff thrown out by the store.

He ripped bread open? To get a deal? to be funny?

Most restaurants these days are very odd/queer about the stuff getting tossed. I've been in a  Kwik Trip and watched them take the food at the time stamped hour and just toss it into the garbage. Now, I love hot dogs that have been on the rollers for too long.     WHY waste it, if I and others would eat it?  But that's not how it works in the US. They have to tossit.....even the employees are told to not take it home. And it all gets jotted down and listed as a waste during the course of business.

[merh]

Jun 12, 2022 23:46:45 GMT abbey1227 said:

Jun 12, 2022 23:41:58 GMT merh said:

That is a photo from Starbucks.
Comments are about private business.

My husband had to rip open bread, etc. at Safeway. The guys who collect it would bitch why not just let them take it? 
Because the store is worried it will end up at the Swap Meet getting sold with the other stuff thrown out by the store.

He ripped bread open? To get a deal? to be funny?

Most restaurants these days are very odd/queer about the stuff getting tossed. I've been in a  Kwik Trip and watched them take the food at the time stamped hour and just toss it into the garbage. Now, I love hot dogs that have been on the rollers for too long.     WHY waste it, if I and others would eat it?  But that's not how it works in the US. They have to tossit.....even the employees are told to not take it home. And it all gets jotted down and listed as a waste during the course of business.

Yep.
Such a waste.
We had a kid at Jack's who would snack on the burgers tossed in the waste pile at the restaurant (it was in a fridge, not out in the heat) they told to stop because they had to count the waste.

Hubby was a custodian.
Waxed floors.
Threw out trash like bread

Functional illiterate,  remember?

[abbey1227]

Jun 12, 2022 23:52:46 GMT merh said:

Yep.
Such a waste.
We had a kid at Jack's who would snack on the burgers tossed in the waste pile at the restaurant (it was in a fridge, not out in the heat) they told to stop because they had to count the waste.

Hubby was a custodian.
Waxed floors.
Threw out trash like bread

Functional illiterate,  remember?

My old boss barely had an 8th grade education. But his bout with homelessness drove him to achieve success in a variety of ways. He would sometimes have me check his emails before he'd click 'Send' because his spelling and grammar left a lot to be desired. I remember he would always ask the crew if they had any good 'ideals' to increase business. He didn't know the word he was looking for was just ideas.

[merh]

Jun 13, 2022 0:12:32 GMT abbey1227 said:

Jun 12, 2022 23:52:46 GMT merh said:

Yep.
Such a waste.
We had a kid at Jack's who would snack on the burgers tossed in the waste pile at the restaurant (it was in a fridge, not out in the heat) they told to stop because they had to count the waste.

Hubby was a custodian.
Waxed floors.
Threw out trash like bread

Functional illiterate,  remember?

My old boss barely had an 8th grade education. But his bout with homelessness drove him to achieve success in a variety of ways. He would sometimes have me check his emails before he'd click 'Send' because his spelling and grammar left a lot to be desired. I remember he would always ask the crew if they had any good 'ideals' to increase business. He didn't know the word he was looking for was just ideas.

Functional illiterates learn how to hide their problem

[abbey1227]

Jun 13, 2022 9:12:41 GMT merh said:

Jun 13, 2022 0:12:32 GMT abbey1227 said:

My old boss barely had an 8th grade education. But his bout with homelessness drove him to achieve success in a variety of ways. He would sometimes have me check his emails before he'd click 'Send' because his spelling and grammar left a lot to be desired. I remember he would always ask the crew if they had any good 'ideals' to increase business. He didn't know the word he was looking for was just ideas.

Functional illiterates learn how to hide their problem

It's kind of amazing how much time and energy some put into those kinda efforts. When the same or less energy could be spent solving the root of the problem

We all have our coping mechanisms.

[merh]

Jun 13, 2022 11:43:08 GMT abbey1227 said:

Jun 13, 2022 9:12:41 GMT merh said:

Functional illiterates learn how to hide their problem

It's kind of amazing how much time and energy some put into those kinda efforts. When the same or less energy could be spent solving the root of the problem

We all have our coping mechanisms.

...
It's not just failing to read.
It's usually a learning disability like dyslexia or some such that gets missed in school. My mother-in-law said they were told it would take 4 or 5 yrs & thousands of dollars to bring my husband up to reading level for whenever they had him tested.

You don't think I tried?
I did.
I don't know what he needed, but I couldn't teach him to read.

[abbey1227]

Jun 13, 2022 15:24:20 GMT merh said:

You don't think I tried?
I did.
I don't know what he needed, but I couldn't teach him to read.

I do think you tried. It's obvious.

But like your clients, we all know you just can not reach some people or help them help themselves.

You think you're helping me with your political advice, I know that. I just feel my results are more evidence of success for my particular life.

[merh]