Hyphenated American

[Prometheus]

Irish-American

Italian-American

Japanese-American

German-American

And so on.

No one really gives a fuck about these stupid appellations unless the person in question was born in another country then became a naturalized citizen.

And does anyone actually call themselves, "English-American"?

Seriously. Unless you hold dual citizenship, anything before the hyphen in bullshit.

My heritage is Irish, German, and English. Do I care about any of them except on St. Patrick's Day or if I am visiting one of those countries?

NO

If you were born in America, you're an American regardless of your ethnic heritage. Republicans need to take special note of that. "African"-Americans need to pay attention as well.

If your non-American heritage means that much to you than your American birthright, go the fuck back to Ireland, Italy, or Africa... which is not a country, but I get it.

I'm not trying to demean your experience.

I'm asking you to hold true to one or the other: country (continent), pre-hyphenation or post-hyphenation.

The more you separate yourselves, the more you will be seen as "separate." The more you are seen as "separate" the more you will be seen as an "other." The more you are seen as an "other", the more you will be seen as an "enemy."

Yes. I know that some will see you as an "enemy" no matter what, but shouldn't you do what you can to remove any "sticky points" along the way? I don't call myself an "Anti-Nazi-American." I think that being "American" pretty much makes me "Anti-Nazi" and I think that anyone who is "Pro-Nazi" is necessarily "Anti-American" regardless of their rhetoric.

Do I have to "identify" as "white, non-bigoted, male" in order to have a place at the table?

I'm rambling.

/rant

[Nightman]

As a proud Asgardian-American, I order you to chill. A hyphen never killed anybody.

[Prometheus]

Feb 17, 2021 2:36:55 GMT Nightman said:

As a proud Asgardian-American, I order you to chill. A hyphen never killed anybody.

Pfft!

You're not even Asgardian, puny god.

[Nightman]

Feb 17, 2021 3:40:02 GMT Prometheus said:

Feb 17, 2021 2:36:55 GMT Nightman said:

As a proud Asgardian-American, I order you to chill. A hyphen never killed anybody.

Pfft!

You're not even Asgardian, puny god.

How dare you.

The worst a hyphen has ever done was make me look down to find it on a keyboard. Leave it be.

[ant-mac]

Feb 16, 2021 17:17:26 GMT Prometheus said:

Irish-American

Italian-American

Japanese-American

German-American

And so on.

No one really gives a fuck about these stupid appellations unless the person in question was born in another country then became a naturalized citizen.

And does anyone actually call themselves, "English-American"?

Seriously. Unless you hold dual citizenship, anything before the hyphen in bullshit.

My heritage is Irish, German, and English. Do I care about any of them except on St. Patrick's Day or if I am visiting one of those countries?

NO

If you were born in America, you're an American regardless of your ethnic heritage. Republicans need to take special note of that. "African"-Americans need to pay attention as well.

If your non-American heritage means that much to you than your American birthright, go the fuck back to Ireland, Italy, or Africa... which is not a country, but I get it.

I'm not trying to demean your experience.

I'm asking you to hold true to one or the other: country (continent), pre-hyphenation or post-hyphenation.

The more you separate yourselves, the more you will be seen as "separate." The more you are seen as "separate" the more you will be seen as an "other." The more you are seen as an "other", the more you will be seen as an "enemy."

Yes. I know that some will see you as an "enemy" no matter what, but shouldn't you do what you can to remove any "sticky points" along the way? I don't call myself an "Anti-Nazi-American." I think that being "American" pretty much makes me "Anti-Nazi" and I think that anyone who is "Pro-Nazi" is necessarily "Anti-American" regardless of their rhetoric.

Do I have to "identify" as "white, non-bigoted, male" in order to have a place at the table?

I'm rambling.

/rant

I understand the hyphen for the first generation of immigrants, but by the time the second generation arrives, they're just locals.

My father was 100% Aussie, my mother was Dutch-Australian... I'm just an Aussie.

If you asked my cousin - who was born in the Netherlands - he'd say he was just an Aussie... as are his kids and grandkids.

[Prometheus]

Feb 18, 2021 5:13:16 GMT ant-mac said:

Feb 16, 2021 17:17:26 GMT Prometheus said:

Irish-American

Italian-American

Japanese-American

German-American

And so on.

No one really gives a fuck about these stupid appellations unless the person in question was born in another country then became a naturalized citizen.

And does anyone actually call themselves, "English-American"?

Seriously. Unless you hold dual citizenship, anything before the hyphen in bullshit.

My heritage is Irish, German, and English. Do I care about any of them except on St. Patrick's Day or if I am visiting one of those countries?

NO

If you were born in America, you're an American regardless of your ethnic heritage. Republicans need to take special note of that. "African"-Americans need to pay attention as well.

If your non-American heritage means that much to you than your American birthright, go the fuck back to Ireland, Italy, or Africa... which is not a country, but I get it.

I'm not trying to demean your experience.

I'm asking you to hold true to one or the other: country (continent), pre-hyphenation or post-hyphenation.

The more you separate yourselves, the more you will be seen as "separate." The more you are seen as "separate" the more you will be seen as an "other." The more you are seen as an "other", the more you will be seen as an "enemy."

Yes. I know that some will see you as an "enemy" no matter what, but shouldn't you do what you can to remove any "sticky points" along the way? I don't call myself an "Anti-Nazi-American." I think that being "American" pretty much makes me "Anti-Nazi" and I think that anyone who is "Pro-Nazi" is necessarily "Anti-American" regardless of their rhetoric.

Do I have to "identify" as "white, non-bigoted, male" in order to have a place at the table?

I'm rambling.

/rant

I understand the hyphen for the first generation of immigrants, but by the time the second generation arrives, they're just locals.

My father was 100% Aussie, my mother was Dutch-Australian... I'm just an Aussie.

If you asked my cousin - who was born in the Netherlands - he'd say he was just an Aussie... as are his kids and grandkids.

Exactly.

If you still hyphenating when your family has been in country for several generations, you need to pick one. And if you pick the pre-hyphen country, it's time for you to move there. If anyone gives a fuck about your heritage, they'll ask you.