Donnie's Hero, Vlad has started the war

[abbey1227]

Feb 25, 2022 3:26:25 GMT merh said:

Feb 25, 2022 1:26:24 GMT abbey1227 said:

Because they might not see the sense in messing around on the other side of the planet?......unlike US

Like when he set up an embassy for California & tried to get it to secede a couple years ago?

good example

Should he have?

Are you approving of such actions?

Was it anywhere near the funding of the CIA and such operations?

[merh]

Feb 25, 2022 1:26:24 GMT abbey1227 said:

Feb 25, 2022 1:17:33 GMT Prometheus said:

Then why don't they attack us?

But thanks for showing once again how much you hate America and love Russia.

Because they might not see the sense in messing around on the other side of the planet?......unlike US

Wasn't Putin helping Assad?

[merh]

Feb 25, 2022 3:28:10 GMT abbey1227 said:

Feb 25, 2022 3:26:25 GMT merh said:

Like when he set up an embassy for California & tried to get it to secede a couple years ago?

good example

Should he have?

Are you approving of such actions?

Was it anywhere near the funding of the CIA and such operations?

You want California to leave the US?

timesofsandiego.com/politics/2017/03/23/russia-duped-bernie-fans-via-facebook-san-diego-dems-told/

Oliver Mitov was dispatched by the Kremlin to get Bernie Sanders fans to vote third-party in the November election, write in the Democratic primary loser for president — or not vote at all.

But investigative journalist John Mattes, describing how fake stories on Facebook helped defeat Hillary Clinton, isn’t sure who Mitov is.

“He may be a bot. He may be a person [or four]. He may be living in Macedonia, laughing,” Mattes told a rapt audience of 90 Thursday night in Hillcrest.

But Mitov’s thousands of posts — and similar ones from Albania and elsewhere — duped just enough of the 13 million Sanders supporters to hand the election to Donald Trump and prove Russia could hack American democracy, said the 66-year-old resident of Pacific Beach.

A major Sanders organizer in Southern California himself, Mattes admitted that “we were played.”

Grass-roots advocates of the Vermont senator did the best they could to identify fake postings that depicted Clinton in negative and shocking ways, Mattes said, but it wasn’t enough.

Two days after being cited on MSNBC’s “The Rachel Maddow Show,” Mattes gave San Diego Democrats for Equality a briefing on how Russia continues to exploit Facebook.

“The campaign has not ended,” said Mattes, who has been reviewing more than 100 Bernie Sanders Facebook pages nationwide for evidence of planted stories that swayed enough voters to throw the election.

“Russia is in our election process, and we don’t know how to stop it,” he said. “We didn’t have a vehicle to shut it down. We were being victims en masse.”

The Kremlin has developed technology that allows many Oliver Mitovs in Eastern Europe to post 100 fake stories at a time on Facebook.

How extensive was the influence?

Mattes said 8.7 million shares, reactions and comments on Sanders-backing Facebook pages were spawned by bogus anti-Clinton attacks.

That compares with just under 7.4 million shares, reactions and comments connected to legitimate news sources.

Mattes noted that 8 percent of voters age 18-40 voted for third-party candidates. In Wisconsin, 144,000 votes were cast for third-party candidates, and Clinton lost the state by 44,000 votes.

“Peel off a few thousand [voters] in various places, and you win,” he said at the Joyce Beers Community Center

You were saying?

[abbey1227]

Feb 25, 2022 3:30:09 GMT merh said:

Feb 25, 2022 1:26:24 GMT abbey1227 said:

Because they might not see the sense in messing around on the other side of the planet?......unlike US

Wasn't Putin helping Assad?

Yep.........Russia has aligned itself with China, Syria and Iran even.

They'll do business with our enemies, since we won't do business with them.

So why isn't China in trouble for that?

[abbey1227]

Feb 25, 2022 3:36:28 GMT merh said:

You were saying?

THAT is one of the dumbest excuses I've seen in awhile. Did they somehow forget that's exactly how Bill Clinton got elected? Ross Perot pulled enough votes away from Bush Sr. that the Clintons got to slime their way into office.

Too rich it came back and bit her in the cooch years later

[merh]

[abbey1227]

Feb 25, 2022 13:06:46 GMT merh said:

what a whackadoodle.

She couldn't prevent her own traumatic life ........but she somehow thinks she'd have provided better for others if only they'd come out of her crotch?

[merh]

Feb 25, 2022 12:54:03 GMT abbey1227 said:

Feb 25, 2022 3:36:28 GMT merh said:

You were saying?

THAT is one of the dumbest excuses I've seen in awhile. Did they somehow forget that's exactly how Bill Clinton got elected? Ross Perot pulled enough votes away from Bush Sr. that the Clintons got to slime their way into office.

Too rich it came back and bit her in the cooch years later

Its why I don't play with Facebook 

From a video on reddit

A brave Ukrainian woman confronts a member of the Russian forces.. She asks wtf they're doing there, tells them they're occupants on the territory. The soldier tells her not to escalate the situation. She tells them to put seeds in their pockets so flowers can bloom where they die.

So, yeah.
The Ukrainians are welcoming the Russians, aren't they?

www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-bush-family-affair-with-china/

The Bush Family Affair With China
From H.W. sitting down with Mao in 1975 to Neil Bush shipping off millions of masks to China last year.

Watching the shutdown was 65-year-old Houstonian Neil M. Bush, scion of a family with deep roots in Texas. Son and brother to two U.S. presidents, Neil chairs the George H.W. Bush Foundation for U.S.-China Relations, a 501c3 organization named for his late father, the 41st president, who was, in Neil’s words, “a huge believer in the importance of the bilateral relationship between China and the U.S.”

The purpose of the foundation, Neil said, was “to get Americans to change their negative views” of China and recognize the country’s “natural kindness and gift giving.”

As the group’s leader, Neil had inside information on what was happening in China. During the last four decades, he had traveled to the country more than 150 times. Before most Americans ever heard the words “Covid-19,” Neil received reports that people in China were dying from a mysterious virus. To try to control it, the Chinese government ordered its citizens to wear medical face masks when they went outside.

There were few places in the U.S. that still made masks and other protective gear. China produced 20 million masks each day.

In early February 2020, the Bush Foundation found two million masks close to home, in Mexico. They persuaded Chubb and Walmart to pay for the masks, and FedEx flew them without charge to China, even though the bulk of the world’s masks were already made there.

As Houston and the rest of the country locked down in mid-March, Neil was acutely aware of something that made him, and the Bush family, unique: a decades-long devotion to work in China.

HUNTER BIDEN!!!!!!!

McConnell is a Southern Baptist, baptized at age 8. He was married to his first wife, Sherrill Redmon, from 1968 to 1980 and had three daughters, Porter, Eleanor (Elly), and Claire.[
 Following her divorce from McConnell, Sherrill became a feminist scholar at Smith College and director of the Sophia Smith Collection. His second wife, whom he married in 1993, is Elaine Chao, Secretary of Labor under President George W. Bush and Secretary of Transportation under President Donald Trump

Born in Taipei, Taiwan, Chao immigrated to the United States when she was eight years old. Her father founded the Foremost Group, which eventually became a major shipping corporation. Chao was raised on Long Island, New York, and subsequently received degrees from Mount Holyoke College and Harvard Business School. She worked for a number of financial institutions before being appointed to several senior positions in the Department of Transportation under Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush, including Chair of the Federal Maritime Commission (1988–1989) and Deputy Secretary of Transportation (1989–1991). She served as Director of the Peace Corps from 1991 to 1992 and as president of the United Way of America from 1993 to 1996.

While not in government, Chao has served on several corporate boards of directors and worked for The Heritage Foundation and the Hudson Institute, two conservative think-tanks. Chao was the first Asian-American woman and the first Taiwanese American in U.S. history to be appointed to a President's Cabinet.[3] Chao married U.S. Senator Mitch McConnell in 1993.

Could it be too many American politicians have ties to China?

[merh]

Expanded

Full Translation: WOMAN: Who are you? // SOLDIER: We have exercises here. Please go this way. // WOMAN: What kind of exercises? Are you Russian? // SOLDIER: Yes. // WOMAN: So what the fuck are you doing here? // SOLDIER: Right now, our discussion will lead to nothing. // WOMAN: You're occupants, you're fascists! What the fuck are you doing on our land with all these guns? Take these seeds and put them in your pockets, so at least sunflowers [Ukranian national flower] will grow when you all lie down here. // SOLDIER: Right now, our discussion will lead nowhere. Let's not escalate this situation. Please. // WOMAN: What situation? Guys, guys. Put the sunflower seeds in your pockets, please. You will lie down here with the seeds. You came to my land. Do you understand? You are occupiers. You are enemies. // SOLDIER: Yes. // WOMAN: And from this moment, you are cursed. I'm teling you. // SOLDIER: Now listen to me // WOMAN: I've heard you. // SOLDIER: Let's not escalate the situation. Please go this way. // WOMAN: HOw can it be further escalated? You fucking came here uninvited. Pieces of shit.

[merh]

Text from my sister

Saw some gamer on reddit this morning grumbling that the Russian assault on Ukraine didn't look as cool as Call of Duty (Or some other franchise)' s Russian/Ukraine campaign. Shit.

[abbey1227]

Feb 25, 2022 19:06:27 GMT merh said:

So, yeah.
The Ukrainians are welcoming the Russians, aren't they?

www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-bush-family-affair-with-china/

The Bush Family Affair With China

HUNTER BIDEN!!!!!!!

Could it be too many American politicians have ties to China?

Good stuff.

It's why I'm not a fan of the Bush family or McConnell

Hunter is still a corrupt little douche

[merh]

[merh]

Feb 26, 2022 2:49:56 GMT abbey1227 said:

Feb 25, 2022 19:06:27 GMT merh said:

So, yeah.
The Ukrainians are welcoming the Russians, aren't they?

www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-bush-family-affair-with-china/

HUNTER BIDEN!!!!!!!

Could it be too many American politicians have ties to China?

Good stuff.

It's why I'm not a fan of the Bush family or McConnell

Hunter is still a corrupt little douche

Point being all the attention being paid to Hunter when it seems 90% of the politicians have been cosying up to China since Nixon 

Nixon laid the groundwork for his overture to China before he became president, writing in Foreign Affairs a year before his election: "There is no place on this small planet for a billion of its potentially most able people to live in angry isolation." Assisting him in this venture was Henry Kissinger, Nixon’s National Security Advisor and future Secretary of State. They collaborated closely, bypassing Cabinet officials. With relations between the Soviet Union and China at a nadir—border clashes between the two took place during Nixon's first year in office—Nixon sent private word to the Chinese that he desired closer relations. A breakthrough came in early 1971, when Chinese Communist Party (CCP) chairman Mao Zedong invited a team of American table tennis players to visit China and play against top Chinese players. Nixon followed up by sending Kissinger to China for clandestine meetings with Chinese officials. On July 15, 1971, with announcements from Washington and Beijing that astounded the world, it was learned that the President would visit China the following February. The secrecy had allowed both sets of leaders time to prepare the political climate in their countries for the visit.

In February 1972, Nixon and his wife traveled to China after Kissinger briefed Nixon for over 40 hours in preparation. Upon touching down, the President and First Lady emerged from Air Force One and were greeted by Chinese Premier Zhou Enlai. Nixon made a point of shaking Zhou's hand, something which then-Secretary of State John Foster Dulles had refused to do in 1954 when the two met in Geneva. More than a hundred television journalists accompanied the president. On Nixon's orders, television was strongly favored over printed publications, as Nixon felt that the medium would capture the visit much better than print. It also gave him the opportunity to snub the print journalists he despised

[abbey1227]

Feb 26, 2022 8:05:50 GMT merh said:

Feb 26, 2022 2:49:56 GMT abbey1227 said:

Good stuff.

It's why I'm not a fan of the Bush family or McConnell

Hunter is still a corrupt little douche

Point being all the attention being paid to Hunter when it seems 90% of the politicians have been cosying up to China since Nixon 

Nixon laid the groundwork for his overture to China before he became president, writing in Foreign Affairs a year before his election: "There is no place on this small planet for a billion of its potentially most able people to live in angry isolation." Assisting him in this venture was Henry Kissinger, Nixon’s National Security Advisor and future Secretary of State. They collaborated closely, bypassing Cabinet officials. With relations between the Soviet Union and China at a nadir—border clashes between the two took place during Nixon's first year in office—Nixon sent private word to the Chinese that he desired closer relations. A breakthrough came in early 1971, when Chinese Communist Party (CCP) chairman Mao Zedong invited a team of American table tennis players to visit China and play against top Chinese players. Nixon followed up by sending Kissinger to China for clandestine meetings with Chinese officials. On July 15, 1971, with announcements from Washington and Beijing that astounded the world, it was learned that the President would visit China the following February. The secrecy had allowed both sets of leaders time to prepare the political climate in their countries for the visit.

In February 1972, Nixon and his wife traveled to China after Kissinger briefed Nixon for over 40 hours in preparation. Upon touching down, the President and First Lady emerged from Air Force One and were greeted by Chinese Premier Zhou Enlai. Nixon made a point of shaking Zhou's hand, something which then-Secretary of State John Foster Dulles had refused to do in 1954 when the two met in Geneva. More than a hundred television journalists accompanied the president. On Nixon's orders, television was strongly favored over printed publications, as Nixon felt that the medium would capture the visit much better than print. It also gave him the opportunity to snub the print journalists he despised

I know what he was going for........but you'd think some of those intellectual experts in DC would have noticed that China HASN'T come more towards the West when it comes to how it treats it's own people.

Instead they've just taken advantage of the sellout politicians in the US

[merh]

Feb 26, 2022 13:04:46 GMT abbey1227 said:

Feb 26, 2022 8:05:50 GMT merh said:

Point being all the attention being paid to Hunter when it seems 90% of the politicians have been cosying up to China since Nixon 

I know what he was going for........but you'd think some of those intellectual experts in DC would have noticed that China HASN'T come more towards the West when it comes to how it treats it's own people.

Instead they've just taken advantage of the sellout politicians in the US

You think it means anything to politicians?
Where do they have their money?
So why do they care about actual humans when their bank accounts are on the line.

[abbey1227]

Feb 26, 2022 14:17:06 GMT merh said:

You think it means anything to politicians?
Where do they have their money?
So why do they care about actual humans when their bank accounts are on the line.

I'm whichu on dat

[merh]

[abbey1227]

Feb 28, 2022 5:42:47 GMT merh said:

If the US disbands it's military..........there is no more war.   

If all cities disband their police departments, there is no more crime.   

[merh]

Feb 28, 2022 6:19:59 GMT abbey1227 said:

Feb 28, 2022 5:42:47 GMT merh said:

If the US disbands it's military..........there is no more war.   

If all cities disband their police departments, there is no more crime.   

So if Ukraine stops defending itself from the invading force, the invading force will go away?

Putin wants to install a puppet he can manipulate like he had before the people chucked him.

You know, the one Manafort was buddies with?

Viktor Fedorovych Yanukovych (born 9 July 1950) is a Ukrainian politician who served as the fourth president of Ukraine from 2010 until he was removed from office in the 2014 Ukrainian Revolution. From 2006 to 2007 he was the prime minister of Ukraine; he also served in this post from November 2002 to January 2005, with a short interruption in December 2004.

Yanukovych was elected president in 2010, defeating Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko. The election was judged free and fair by international observers. November 2013 saw the beginning of a series of events that led to his ousting as president. Yanukovych rejected a pending EU association agreement, choosing instead to pursue a Russian loan bailout and closer ties with Russia. This led to protests and the occupation of Kyiv's Independence Square, a series of events dubbed the "Euromaidan" by proponents of aligning Ukraine toward the European Union. In January 2014, this developed into deadly clashes in Independence Square and in other areas across Ukraine, as Ukrainian citizens confronted the Berkut and other special police units.In February 2014, Ukraine appeared to be on the brink of civil war, as violent clashes between protesters and special police forces led to many deaths and injuries. On 21 February 2014, Yanukovych claimed that, after lengthy discussions, he had reached an agreement with the opposition. Later that day, however, he left the capital for Kharkiv, saying his car was shot at as he left Kyiv, and travelling next to Crimea, and eventually to exile in southern Russia.

On 22 February 2014, the Ukrainian parliament voted to remove him from his post and schedule new elections on the grounds that he "has restrained himself from performing his constitutional duties" and effectively resigned, rather than by following the impeachment process for criminal acts under Article 108 of the Ukrainian constitution. Parliament set 25 May as the date for the special election to select his replacement, and, two days later, issued a warrant for his arrest, accusing him of "mass killing of civilians." After his departure, Yanukovych conducted several press conferences. In one of these, he declared himself to remain "the legitimate head of the Ukrainian state elected in a free vote by Ukrainian citizens". On 18 June 2015, Yanukovych was officially deprived of the title of president by the parliament. On 24 January 2019, he was sentenced in absentia to thirteen years' imprisonment for high treason by a Ukrainian court.

A warrant for Yanukovych's arrest was issued on 24 February 2014 by the interim government, accusing him of mass murder of protesters. Acting Ukrainian Interior Minister Arsen Avakov declared that Yanukovych has been placed on Ukraine's most wanted list and that a criminal case on mass killings of civilians has been opened against him.

On 28 February 2014, the General Prosecutor of Ukraine, Oleh Makhnitsky formally asked Russia to extradite Yanukovych. Russian prosecutors stated that they had not received such a request from Ukraine. To date, Russia has declined to extradite him.

Of course Putin doesn't care if the nobody citizens are killed. 

On 30 September 2014, the General Prosecutor of Ukraine opened a new case against Yanukovych for using 220 million hryvnia of state money to establish his own private communication company based on Ukrtelekom. The prosecutor's office also considered that Yanukovych was helped by the former government officials Mykola Azarov (prime minister), Yuriy Kolobov (finance minister), Anatoliy Markovsky (first deputy minister of finance), Hennadiy Reznikov (director of Derzhspetszviazok), and Dzenyk (Ukrtelekom board of directors)

Mass murder at Maidan 
Accusations of mass murder at Maidan included a group of Criminal Code articles including an attempt to relocate a headquarters of Supreme Commander-in-Chief, National Bank and Foreign Ministry to Sevastopol (Article 109, part 2) as well as Yanukovych's statements about the illegitimacy of higher state authorities after his overthrow (Article 109, part 3).

Property theft through conspiracy
Yanukovych is also charged with property theft in a conspiracy with the chairman of the Nadra Ukrainy state company (Articles 109 and 209), which has been under investigation since March 2014.

In November 2016, Prosecutor General Yuriy Lutsenko questioned Yanukovych via video link in connection with the former Berkut. During the questioning, Lutsenko told Yanukovych that he was being accused of treason.

On 14 March 2017, the Prosecutor General submitted to court documents of the Yanukovych's case on state treason. Yanukovych was charged with encroachment on the territorial integrity and inviolability of Ukraine, high treason, and complicity in aggressive warfare by the Russian Federation aimed at altering Ukraine's state borders.

More than 100 witnesses were interviewed for the case. One was Denis Voronenkov, who was shot in downtown Kyiv at the end of March 2017.

On 4 May 2017 the first preliminary session commenced in Kyiv's Obolonskyi District Court under Judge Vladyslav Devyatko. Yanukovych was not present and was tried in absentia. He gave evidence via video link from Russia.

Ukrainian prosecutors asked the court in Kyiv to sentence the former leader to 15 years in prison. Prosecutors Ruslan Kravchenko and Maksym Krym made the request on 16 August, during closing arguments of the trial. The judge then adjourned the trial until 13 September.

However the former leader was hospitalized in Moscow days before he was scheduled to give the final statement. Yanukovych was taken to Moscow's Sklifosovsky Institute of Emergency Medicine by ambulance on 16 November in an immobilized condition. He allegedly sustained back and knee injuries while "playing tennis".

On 24 January 2019 a panel of three judges of the Obolonskyi District Court found Yanukovych guilty of high treason and complicity in Russian military intervention in Ukraine. They stated that "the court, having heard the testimony of witnesses, examined conclusions of experts, documents and material evidence, assessed the arguments of prosecution and defense, considers that the guilt of the accused in committing the crimes under Part 1 Article 111 (high treason), Part 5 Article 27, Part 2 Article 437 (complicity in conducting an aggressive war) of the Criminal Code of Ukraine is duly proved by relevant and admissible evidence". He was acquitted of the other charge relating to Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity. The verdict was that Yanukovych was sentenced to 13 years of jail in absentia

[merh]

Feb 26, 2022 20:37:14 GMT @jepgambardella said:

Just an anecdote, but I thought it was interesting: I have a co-worker who's Russian. Yesterday he said that he and his wife had talked to her parents, who live in the outskirts of Moscow, and that when they asked about the war, the parents not only did not know that Russia had invaded Ukraine, but didn't believe it either! This is an older couple who get all their news from Russian TV. So apparently, at least in the first days, Russian TV was not reporting the true extent of the situation in Ukraine.

Surprise!

But Russia is SOOOOO much better than America!
They don't even bother telling people what's going on.