Heroes to Fringe

[merh]

May 5, 2022 14:24:24 GMT abbey1227 said:

May 5, 2022 14:17:55 GMT merh said:

Apparently Amazon & Google are willing to pay for employees to have abortions.

Cheaper than healthcare for those dependents 

I just saw a headline mentioning that Mail Order prescriptions should become a valuable resource.

I also joked with my wife before she went to bed, "Let's offer up a compromise.........we'll continue to fund PP because abortions are cheaper than welfare for decades.........but let's also start gathering up the children of those on welfare and start aborting them, too." 

There's the problem.

It's the catholic all sins are equal.
Stealing a pen is a sin like murder.

The already born have rights.
The unborn, like it or not, are parasites if unwanted.
The whole a rose in a corn field is a weed. Unwanted & will be removed.

[abbey1227]

May 5, 2022 19:00:40 GMT merh said:

The already born have rights.
The unborn, like it or not, are parasites if unwanted.
The whole a rose in a corn field is a weed. Unwanted & will be removed.

And this is where your trust and belief in Science is going to call into question your beliefs. It's not a problem for me cuz I don't care about killing people really.

But as the preemie tech gets more and more advanced, you can not rely on that somewhat ancient view of a baby not being a baby until it fully passes thru the vagina definition anymore.

Yikes....... 21 weeks

news.yahoo.com/alabama-boy-sets-record-worlds-164221197.html

[merh]

May 6, 2022 1:38:15 GMT abbey1227 said:

May 5, 2022 19:00:40 GMT merh said:

The already born have rights.
The unborn, like it or not, are parasites if unwanted.
The whole a rose in a corn field is a weed. Unwanted & will be removed.

And this is where your trust and belief in Science is going to call into question your beliefs. It's not a problem for me cuz I don't care about killing people really.

But as the preemie tech gets more and more advanced, you can not rely on that somewhat ancient view of a baby not being a baby until it fully passes thru the vagina definition anymore.

Yikes....... 21 weeks

news.yahoo.com/alabama-boy-sets-record-worlds-164221197.html

 But not all can be saved.
It is pretty expensive.
Mom said the hospital owned me for a year & I was just 6 weeks early. I was due July 4th. My birthday is in a couple weeks.

[abbey1227]

May 6, 2022 2:37:26 GMT merh said:

May 6, 2022 1:38:15 GMT abbey1227 said:

 But not all can be saved.
It is pretty expensive.
Mom said the hospital owned me for a year & I was just 6 weeks early. I was due July 4th. My birthday is in a couple weeks.

I agree.........but does that ever stop lifesaving efforts for those already born?

Agreed.......but when has that gotten in the way of people demanding care?

Heheheh. That's funny. I've heard that before, too.  Happy premature B-Day   

[merh]

May 6, 2022 12:29:43 GMT abbey1227 said:

May 6, 2022 2:37:26 GMT merh said:

 But not all can be saved.
It is pretty expensive.
Mom said the hospital owned me for a year & I was just 6 weeks early. I was due July 4th. My birthday is in a couple weeks.

I agree.........but does that ever stop lifesaving efforts for those already born?

Agreed.......but when has that gotten in the way of people demanding care?

Heheheh. That's funny. I've heard that before, too.  Happy premature B-Day   

Oh, no, dude.
Have you not heard of those non resuscitate papers?
No machines to keep one alive. 

There are lots of people that have those in place. 
It often seems to be family willing to do whatever to keep the person alive.

[abbey1227]

May 6, 2022 15:33:37 GMT merh said:

Oh, no, dude.
Have you not heard of those non resuscitate papers?
No machines to keep one alive. 

There are lots of people that have those in place. 
It often seems to be family willing to do whatever to keep the person alive.

I have heard of those......... I've also heard of idiotic workers in assisted care facilities not knowing any better and still doing CPR after people have signed DNRs. It's a funny world like that.

Yep, that is another goofy thing. When people GO AGAINST the wishes of their supposed loved ones. I really have a major issue with those kinda situations.

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The discussions included the expected racism and antisemitism, proposals to impersonate anti-fascist activists while committing acts of vandalism, and a suggestion to blackmail their girlfriends to make them less likely to report the group's activities. 

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A massive new leak from the white supremacist group Patriot Front reveals how members seek to normalize their extreme message even as they try to avoid outside scrutiny.

The leaks, published by the media nonprofit Unicorn Riot, contain more than 17 hours of conversations from inside Patriot Front as it recruited members and refined its tactics late last year. A white supremacist group with origins in 2017’s deadly Unite The Right rally, Patriot Front has vied for national attention by participating in anti-choice rallies and by staging a series of often-disastrous marches.

The leaked chats and audio recordings give more insight into the group, including plans to target Black and LGBT artwork, and to “blackmail” members’ girlfriends participating in hate sprees.

While openly fascist, Patriot Front also tries to build inroads with the more mainstream conservative movement. Some of those efforts come in the form of graffiti blitzes, the leaked chats show.

In recorded conversations, Patriot Front members discussed targeting Black and LGBT artwork so as to encourage contempt against those groups.

In one such leaked recording, Patriot Front members bemoaned a statue erected in remembrance of George Floyd, the 46-year-old Black man whose murder by Minneapolis police in 2020 helped spark a national reckoning over race and police violence.

A Patriot Front member called Floyd the n-word, and encouraged vandalism of the statue, arguing that it would inspire more people to act similarly. “You show people that you can do something like this, and you can get away with it, it encourages other people to do something,” he said.

Another member on the call approvingly compared the tactic to parents harassing school board officials over lessons that reference race, a nationwide phenomenon fueled by a larger right-wing panic over so-called “critical race theory” (CRT).

“Yeah it’s like all the parents going to school boards and, like, harassing the school board, you know, officials for the whole CRT shit, right?” he said. “Like, school board officials are actually legitimately afraid right now because they had like, parents like literally, like, harassing them over the anti-white shit being taught in schools.”

The member then launched into an antisemitic conspiracy theory.

The leaked recordings are full of apparent admissions of vandalism. Among them is a reference to graffitiing a mural in Olympia, Washington, of Trayvon Martin, the Black teen gunned down by George Zimmerman in Florida in 2012. (Patriot Front members filmed themselves in the act of spray-painting the mural, HuffPost previously reported).

At one point, the group also discussed posing as anti-fascists while defacing a gay pride mural.

Leaked Chats Show Patriot Front Fascists Sought Allies at March for Life

Patriot Front members repeatedly made headlines for vandalism arrests in 2021. Two Salem, Massachusetts, members were arrested for allegedly defacing a public transit station with the group’s slogans last summer. A Richmond mural dedicated to Black tennis legend Arthur Ashe was vandalized with Patriot Front logos later that year, as was the Hmong Cultural Center Museum in St. Paul, Minnesota, and a mural featuring Black leaders in St. Louis, Missouri.

The vandalism was also intended to keep Patriot Front members’ partners from turning on the group, the leaks suggest. In the recordings, a group leader tells members to bring their girlfriends to graffiti events, so that they would be less likely to report them to authorities in the future.

“She knows the second she says anything or if I get in trouble, she goes down the shitter, too,” one member said of an ex-girlfriend.

“A blackmail situation,” another commented.

“Pretty much.”

Another said he had taken his ex on a graffitiing excursion “and I think that’s part of the reason she won’t dox me, cause like, if she says anything, it’s like well to be fair, you did white supremacist activism, too, at one point.”

Members of the group also discussed the need to occasionally hide the extent of their hate in order to smuggle it into more mainstream conversations. “The direct approach has not worked,” one member said of promoting antisemitism.

Instead, members have publicly taken up more widely accepted conservative opinions, like opposition to abortion. A trove of previously released Patriot Front messages revealed that the group cozied up to anti-choice marches, where they attempted to appear “more understated, friendly.”

In the latest leaked recordings, the group’s leader said he anticipated attending more March For Life events in 2022. (The recordings came before a draft document showed that the Supreme Court was likely to overturn Roe v. Wade.)

“We will be among friends at these events,” he said. “These people at these, these March For Life events have really come to support us over the years.”

www.thedailybeast.com/patriot-front-audio-leaks-show-white-supremacists-plotting-blackmail-of-girlfriends

[abbey1227]

May 14, 2022 17:15:10 GMT merh said:

The discussions included the expected racism and antisemitism, proposals to impersonate anti-fascist activists while committing acts of vandalism, and a suggestion to blackmail their girlfriends to make them less likely to report the group's activities. 
Sounds like they're adapting to fight fire with fire

[merh]

May 15, 2022 2:02:44 GMT abbey1227 said:

Sounds like they're adapting to fight fire with fire

Of course that's your take on it. 

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Only its an old fake.

A Racial Program for the Twentieth Century (occasionally A Radical Program for the Twentieth Century) was a hoax that first gained public notoriety on June 7, 1957, during a debate on the Civil Rights Act of 1957, when Rep. Thomas Abernethy of Mississippi read a reputed quotation from it into the Congressional Record:

We must realize that our party's most powerful weapon is racial tensions. By propounding into the consciousness of the dark races that for centuries they have been oppressed by whites, we can mold them to the program of the Communist Party. In America we will aim for subtle victory. While inflaming the Negro minority against the whites, we will endeavor to instill in the whites a guilt complex for their exploitation of the Negroes. We will aid the Negroes to rise in prominence in every walk of life, in the professions and in the world of sports and entertainment. With this prestige, the Negro will be able to intermarry with the whites and begin a process which will deliver America to our cause.

Abernethy had found the quotation in a March 1957 letter to the editor of The Washington Star; he claimed it as proof that the Civil Rights Movement was a foreign Communist plot. However, The Washington Star soon apologized for having printed the quotation without verifying its authenticity and, on February 18, 1958, published an article entitled "Story of a Phony Quotation--A Futile Effort to Pin It Down--'A Racial Program for the 20th Century' Seems to Exist Only in Somebody's Imagination", which traced the quotation to Eustace Mullins, who claimed to have found it in a Zionist publication in the Library of Congress.[2][3]

On August 30 of that year, Rep. Abraham J. Multer of New York read the Star article into the Congressional Record and raised several other points challenging the quotation's authenticity. These included the nonexistence of a British Communist party in 1912 (it was founded in 1920) and the nonexistence of a British Communist author named Israel Cohen. Although a British Jewish author and Zionist named Israel Cohen did exist in that period, he had no affiliation with Communism nor is there any record of him writing such a work. A Racial Program does not exist either in the Library of Congress or in the British Museum Catalogue of Printed Books.

[abbey1227]

May 15, 2022 4:34:30 GMT merh said:

May 15, 2022 2:02:44 GMT abbey1227 said:

Sounds like they're adapting to fight fire with fire

Of course that's your take on it. 

it's a Chicken/Egg argument, isn't it?

Who has been playing that game longer?

[abbey1227]

May 15, 2022 12:31:10 GMT merh said:

Only its an old fake.

Abernethy had found the quotation in a March 1957 letter to the editor of The Washington Star; he claimed it as proof that the Civil Rights Movement was a foreign Communist plot. However, The Washington Star soon apologized for having printed the quotation without verifying its authenticity and, on February 18, 1958, published an article entitled "Story of a Phony Quotation--A Futile Effort to Pin It Down--'A Racial Program for the 20th Century' Seems to Exist Only in Somebody's Imagination", which traced the quotation to Eustace Mullins, who claimed to have found it in a Zionist publication in the Library of Congress.[2][3]

Does it matter?   if it ended up being implemented anyway?

Should it matter who came up with the plan?

It's like I said about Joe McCarthy.........he may have been overzealous and abusive with power. But in hindsight, was he really all that wrong?

The dilemma is the issue of devout communists in the US. As Mark Levin points out, certain people and groups have devised ways to use our own freedoms and constitution to destroy us from within.

[merh]

May 15, 2022 13:28:09 GMT abbey1227 said:

May 15, 2022 12:31:10 GMT merh said:

Only its an old fake.

Does it matter?   if it ended up being implemented anyway?

Should it matter who came up with the plan?

It's like I said about Joe McCarthy.........he may have been overzealous and abusive with power. But in hindsight, was he really all that wrong?

The dilemma is the issue of devout communists in the US. As Mark Levin points out, certain people and groups have devised ways to use our own freedoms and constitution to destroy us from within.

Of course you buy The Great Replacement Theory.

In the late 1980s, it was likely that Roddenberry was afflicted by the first manifestations of cerebral vascular disease and encephalopathy as a result of his longstanding recreational use of legal and illicit drugs, including alcohol, methaqualone, methylphenidate, Dexamyl, and cocaine (which he had used regularly since the production of Star Trek: The Motion Picture). Throughout much of his career, he had routinely used stimulants to work through the night on scripts, especially amphetamines. The effects of these substances were compounded by deleterious interactions with diabetes, high blood pressure, and antidepressant prescriptions.

We've discussed this, haven't we?
Stephen King has books that he wrote on drugs he has no memory of writing.

I was looking for clarification on Genesis II & Planet Earth. It was a pilot he did in the 70s & redid when the first didn't get picked up. A man is revived from hibernation in the future & in one of the people who found him said there were no white people left. Everyone was that coffee with creamer shade because everyone just bred out race.

1970s.
So it's an idea that had been kicking around for some time. That to end racism we have to become blended.

[abbey1227]

May 15, 2022 19:04:37 GMT merh said:

May 15, 2022 13:28:09 GMT abbey1227 said:

Does it matter?   if it ended up being implemented anyway?

Should it matter who came up with the plan?

It's like I said about Joe McCarthy.........he may have been overzealous and abusive with power. But in hindsight, was he really all that wrong?

The dilemma is the issue of devout communists in the US. As Mark Levin points out, certain people and groups have devised ways to use our own freedoms and constitution to destroy us from within.

Of course you buy The Great Replacement Theory.

In the late 1980s, it was likely that Roddenberry was afflicted by the first manifestations of cerebral vascular disease and encephalopathy as a result of his longstanding recreational use of legal and illicit drugs, including alcohol, methaqualone, methylphenidate, Dexamyl, and cocaine (which he had used regularly since the production of Star Trek: The Motion Picture). Throughout much of his career, he had routinely used stimulants to work through the night on scripts, especially amphetamines. The effects of these substances were compounded by deleterious interactions with diabetes, high blood pressure, and antidepressant prescriptions.

We've discussed this, haven't we?
Stephen King has books that he wrote on drugs he has no memory of writing.

I was looking for clarification on Genesis II & Planet Earth. It was a pilot he did in the 70s & redid when the first didn't get picked up. A man is revived from hibernation in the future & in one of the people who found him said there were no white people left. Everyone was that coffee with creamer shade because everyone just bred out race.

1970s.
So it's an idea that had been kicking around for some time. That to end racism we have to become blended.

Now you're conflating 2 different things. Race has nothing to do with being an American........more so than any other country on the planet.

That coffee creamer color is an eventuality. It's undeniable and will arrive no matter what.    I've joked many times it'll be a grande day when it finally gets there........cuz then people can start killing others over something truly important, like religion.

This is how foolish people can be with that Utopian thinking. Go to places that are far more homogeneous. Are they all loving and harmonious? Nope, they still embrace goofy ideas and trends. They still install insane caste systems and hate on one another over completely stupid ideas and physical traits.