Heroes to Fringe

[merh]

Feb 27, 2022 21:00:48 GMT @politicidal said:

And that's not me btw. Wendy Rogers (R-AZ) literally tweeted that description out word-for-word. I guess she is jealous of the attention MTG has been getting lately.

TEXT:

Arizona Republican lawmaker Wendy Rogers unleashed a flood of insane talking points about Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, not the least of which was her deranged claim that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky is a “globalist puppet for [George] Soros and the Clintons.”

Rogers, an Arizona state senator and admirer of Confederate generals, is an extremely vocal figure on social media for her hatred of “communists” and her belief in former President Donald Trump’s election lies. She most recently showered praise on Holocaust denier Nick Fuentes at the same white nationalist conference where Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) spoke.

On Sunday, Rogers decided to comment on the war in Ukraine by blaming Zelensky for Russia overrunning his country. She also complained about Russia getting cut off from social media and the global financial system.

That, inevitably, led to this unsubstantiated claim:

Blaming liberal megadonor George Soros for the woes of the world is a frequent bogeyman among far-Right conservatives, one that is often tinged with anti-semitism. It is worth noting that Zelensky is Jewish, and Vladimir Putin has tried to justify his invasion by falsely claiming he’s working toward the “de-Nazification” of Ukraine.

While this was a lot right there, Rogers wasn’t done there. Not by a long shot.

The rant is still ongoing as of this writing.

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So tell me labeling all those on the other side of the aisle devil worshippers isn't common?

Wasn't that the Cold War?
The Russians were godless Communists?
God is on our side while the other side is evil?

Soros, a Jew, is a huge boogeyman for the Right.
And Zelensky is also Jewish. 

There is a slice of Christians who condemn Jews for killing Jesus. I was shocked back in the 80s when my sister-in-law threw that whole "killed Jesus" crap out at me. 

Jesus was a fricken Jew. 
His death HAD to happen in a prescribed way.
Yet Jews should be hated for it?

[abbey1227]

Mar 1, 2022 10:06:26 GMT merh said:

Papa John's received attention in May 2008 when a Washington, D.C. franchise distributed T-shirts making fun of Cleveland Cavaliers star player LeBron James at a playoff game against the Washington Wizards. Photographs of the shirts quickly spread from the Internet[80] to Cleveland television. Increasing awareness of the controversy prompted an apology from the Papa John's national headquarters on May 5. To apologize, Papa John's offered large single-topping pizzas for 23 cents (matching James' jersey number) at all locations in Greater Cleveland and throughout northern Ohio. The chain sold over 172,000 pizzas at 23 cents a piece, with customers waiting in lines outside of some stores for as long as three hours.

Papa John's also received media attention on January 6, 2012, when an employee typed the phrase "lady chinky eyes" on a receipt issued to an Asian American customer at a restaurant in New York City. The employee was fired and the company issued a formal apology. A manager at the restaurant where the incident occurred told the New York Post that the cashier, a teenager, did not intend to offend saying, "It's a busy place, and it was a way to identify her and her order. You know, we do stuff like that sometimes. We'll write 'the lady with the blue eyes' or 'the guy in the green shirt.' I think the lady put it out there just to get some attention, some people like that type of attention."

John Schnatter's claim that a reverse in NFL viewer ratings (supposedly because of the NFL kneeling controversy) had directly led to decreased same-store sales across Papa John's franchises was extensively reported in November 2017. It was estimated that Schnatter's personal holdings in the chain had lost millions of dollars in value.[88] Papa John's disavowed statements by white supremacist groups expressing support for the brand in the wake of Schnatter's comments.

A media report surfaced on July 11, 2018, claiming that Schnatter had used a racial epithet in a conference call the previous May, along with graphic descriptions of violence against racial minorities. Forbes magazine reported that a media agency working with Papa John's severed its relationship with the company following the report. Steve Ritchie, who had replaced Schnatter as CEO, responded with a memo stating that "racism has no place at Papa John's," and a company spokesman wrote in an email that Papa John's "condemns racism".] The same day, Schnatter admitted to using the racial epithet during the conference call and resigned as chairman of the company's board of directors. On July 13, 2018, top executives of the company decided to remove Schnatter's image from marketing materials.

OK.
The chain had no control over the teen. This is why first names are better for identification. As for ID, maybe shirt color? Chinese lady is still problematic. Would they identify others as "black dude" or "white dude"?
But the LeBron thing,  then the KFC thing? 
Yeah, not smart for a company that relies on attracting a diverse clientele.

Papa Johns has over 5,000 stores and around 17,000 employees. Should they be entirely responsible for what every single one of them might say or post? That's crazy.

I had forgotten it was the whole kneeling thing that first put Schnatter on their radar. They dug up enough controversy to get him after that.   He was correct in pointing out how the kneeling had hurt business.......no matter what the NFL and others might claim. They cost people business.

First names sounds like the nice and easy policy........ until you try to reconcile the wide variety of names and the inability to spell for many a young person. 

I love that diversity argument these days. It's a completely one-way street.

[abbey1227]

Mar 1, 2022 10:39:13 GMT merh said:

<abbr data-timestamp="1646131153000" class="o-timestamp time" title="Mar 1, 2022 4:39:13 GMT -6">Mar 1, 2022 4:39:13 GMT -6</abbr> merh said:

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So tell me labeling all those on the other side of the aisle devil worshipers isn't common?

Wasn't that the Cold War?
The Russians were godless Communists?
God is on our side while the other side is evil?

Soros, a Jew, is a huge boogeyman for the Right.
And Zelensky is also Jewish. 

There is a slice of Christians who condemn Jews for killing Jesus. I was shocked back in the 80s when my sister-in-law threw that whole "killed Jesus" crap out at me. 

Jesus was a fricken Jew. 
His death HAD to happen in a prescribed way.
Yet Jews should be hated for it?

does politicidal post here? or did you just copy/paste it from elsewhere?

When you've got those olde school moral majority religious types on the right...........you're bound to hear accusations of devil worshiping on the left. It's the same stereotyping as olde white men that are anti-everything.

Exactly. Turns out many Russians are people of faith. MY buddy's family was forced to leave because of it. It's funny because the Commies there fell from power......while the Commies here are growing in strength.

Soros is funding a shyteton of political shenanigans, is he not? Zuckerberg and Bezos are following suit.

I heard a funny thing about some Jewish faiths. They don't believe Christ was the Messiah. But in their writings, they're supposed to kill that person when they arrive on the scene. So, really they're saying they haven't killed the right person .......yet. 

There's another funny thing about the hardcore Bible bangers.......they truly believe the destruction of the world/America is already predicted. It HAS to take place. IIRC, the same is for the destruction of Israel in Muslim beliefs. So where do we go with all of that? 

[abbey1227]

Mar 1, 2022 10:24:52 GMT merh said:

Mar 1, 2022 2:55:52 GMT abbey1227 said:

1. Do they  technically HAVE to be Satanists? I mean, there's plenty of evidence that there's a thriving sex trade going on that refuses to be stopped and certainly protects the wealthiest peoples' identities.

2. Pipe dreams have always been just that. With pot smoking at an all time high, can we really be surprised?

3. Violence must always remain as a viable threat to the evil that lurks within men and who would abuse the power they've been given over others.

1. Yes. This is QAnon.
The whole thing goes back to the whole Comet Ping Pong pizza thing. 
John Podesta was Hillary's campaign manager & apparently attended a performance artist show which they have exaggerated into a whole thing. 

Though it also goes back to the whole witch hunt idea. The enemy are godless bastards! It's why the whole daycare thing in the 80s. The enemy worships Satan!

2. It's the QAnon guys. 
They are a core group of around 41 million. They believe Trump is some christ-like  figure who is going to liberate all the kidnapped kids. A storm is coming!

Sort of funny because Colbert did a whole joke once about a gay storm coming around 2012. 

3. So vigilantes are a legit route over the courts?

1. OK........but let's be very specific here. Do you believe there's a very organized sex ring  serving the wealthiest types in the US? or not?

I think you're tying separate stories together to make your enemies seem more demonic, as well.

2. 41 MILLION?  Holee crap! That's many more than the Proud Boys or whatever Aryan group we're supposed to be scared of could ever muster. I have run into far more Obama worshipers than Trump worshipers. Maybe our locales are just that different? 

Colbert is a gay storm all on his own.     But I notice he's got no problems using gay slurs as a weapon.

3. The Tree of Liberty and all that. These Davos and WEF types want their Great Reset? Some spunky individual might just offer them another alternative version of that

[merh]

Mar 1, 2022 12:06:42 GMT abbey1227 said:

Mar 1, 2022 10:06:26 GMT merh said:

OK.
The chain had no control over the teen. This is why first names are better for identification. As for ID, maybe shirt color? Chinese lady is still problematic. Would they identify others as "black dude" or "white dude"?
But the LeBron thing,  then the KFC thing? 
Yeah, not smart for a company that relies on attracting a diverse clientele.

Papa Johns has over 5,000 stores and around 17,000 employees. Should they be entirely responsible for what every single one of them might say or post? That's crazy.

I had forgotten it was the whole kneeling thing that first put Schnatter on their radar. They dug up enough controversy to get him after that.   He was correct in pointing out how the kneeling had hurt business.......no matter what the NFL and others might claim. They cost people business.

First names sounds like the nice and easy policy........ until you try to reconcile the wide variety of names and the inability to spell for many a young person. 

I love that diversity argument these days. It's a completely one-way street.

I said the company was not responsible for the teen's stupid designation, though yeah, would you write "black dude" as the description? Maybe a company policy of shirt color.

Dude...
Do you know how many times I have walked into a Starbucks & given my name, yet they manage to make it for "Merry"? How the fuck can you screw up "Mary"? Oh, yeah. I also get "Marry".
??
But if it's a trenta pink drink no fruit (my sister's drink. Not coffee) or my trenta Vanilla Cream Cold Brew sub the regular vanilla syrup for sugar free, then I assume it's my drinks.

I really don't sweat such a small detail. They are busy. I get my drink & slip out.

[merh]

Mar 1, 2022 12:24:08 GMT abbey1227 said:

Mar 1, 2022 10:24:52 GMT merh said:

1. Yes. This is QAnon.
The whole thing goes back to the whole Comet Ping Pong pizza thing. 
John Podesta was Hillary's campaign manager & apparently attended a performance artist show which they have exaggerated into a whole thing. 

Though it also goes back to the whole witch hunt idea. The enemy are godless bastards! It's why the whole daycare thing in the 80s. The enemy worships Satan!

2. It's the QAnon guys. 
They are a core group of around 41 million. They believe Trump is some christ-like  figure who is going to liberate all the kidnapped kids. A storm is coming!

Sort of funny because Colbert did a whole joke once about a gay storm coming around 2012. 

3. So vigilantes are a legit route over the courts?

1. OK........but let's be very specific here. Do you believe there's a very organized sex ring  serving the wealthiest types in the US? or not?

I think you're tying separate stories together to make your enemies seem more demonic, as well.

2. 41 MILLION?  Holee crap! That's many more than the Proud Boys or whatever Aryan group we're supposed to be scared of could ever muster. I have run into far more Obama worshipers than Trump worshipers. Maybe our locales are just that different? 

Colbert is a gay storm all on his own.     But I notice he's got no problems using gay slurs as a weapon.

3. The Tree of Liberty and all that. These Davos and WEF types want their Great Reset? Some spunky individual might just offer them another alternative version of that

1. No.
I do not believe there is ANYTHING that organized.
The Elizabeth Bathorys in the Modern World aren't that connected. Epstein seems the largest group & that was more a pimp providing product.

It's like saying every murder is connected. That murderers are all working together.

The world is more random

2. Why is it shocking?
41 million people buy into the QAnon craziness out of some 350 million Americans. 

You are still so pissed off about Colbert calling Trump Putin's cockholster? Do you know he apparently hasn't said Trump’s name on air since Biden was inaugurated? He has a list of insults submitted by viewers. Every time he uses one, he shows the info of who submitted it.


3. You are dipping over to that dark side, aren't you?

[merh]

Mar 1, 2022 12:15:28 GMT abbey1227 said:

Mar 1, 2022 10:39:13 GMT merh said:

<abbr data-timestamp="1646131153000" class="o-timestamp time" title="Mar 1, 2022 4:39:13 GMT -6">Mar 1, 2022 4:39:13 GMT -6</abbr> merh said:

The post Arizona Lawmaker Calls Zelensky ‘A Globalist Puppet for Soros and the Clintons’ in Positively Deranged Tweetstorm first appeared on Mediaite.

www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/arizona-lawmaker-calls-zelensky-a-globalist-puppet-for-soros-and-the-clintons-in-positively-deranged-tweetstorm/ar-AAUnPaB?li=BBnb7Kz

So tell me labeling all those on the other side of the aisle devil worshipers isn't common?

Wasn't that the Cold War?
The Russians were godless Communists?
God is on our side while the other side is evil?

Soros, a Jew, is a huge boogeyman for the Right.
And Zelensky is also Jewish. 

There is a slice of Christians who condemn Jews for killing Jesus. I was shocked back in the 80s when my sister-in-law threw that whole "killed Jesus" crap out at me. 

Jesus was a fricken Jew. 
His death HAD to happen in a prescribed way.
Yet Jews should be hated for it?

does politicidal post here? or did you just copy/paste it from elsewhere?

When you've got those olde school moral majority religious types on the right...........you're bound to hear accusations of devil worshiping on the left. It's the same stereotyping as olde white men that are anti-everything.

Exactly. Turns out many Russians are people of faith. MY buddy's family was forced to leave because of it. It's funny because the Commies there fell from power......while the Commies here are growing in strength.

Soros is funding a shyteton of political shenanigans, is he not? Zuckerberg and Bezos are following suit.

I heard a funny thing about some Jewish faiths. They don't believe Christ was the Messiah. But in their writings, they're supposed to kill that person when they arrive on the scene. So, really they're saying they haven't killed the right person .......yet. 

There's another funny thing about the hardcore Bible bangers.......they truly believe the destruction of the world/America is already predicted. It HAS to take place. IIRC, the same is for the destruction of Israel in Muslim beliefs. So where do we go with all of that? 

Nope. I stole it from V2. I can't get tweets to work on my phone so it's easier to just copy/paste. I go to BBCode.

I understand they think he was a prophet/teacher type, but not the messiah since he didn't deliver them. 
There's a line in Jesus Christ Superstar about Jews producing messiahs by the sackfull.

Moses was a messiah. 

The messiah in Judaism originally meant a divinely appointed king or "anointed one" and included Jewish priests, prophets and kings such as David and Cyrus the Great.

There have been a ton of them.

Yeah, Pat Robertson is saying it.

www.mediaite.com/politics/pat-robertson-says-putin-is-being-compelled-by-god-to-invade-ukraine/

Pat Robertson Says Putin Is ‘Being Compelled’ by God to Invade Ukraine and Will Then ‘Move Against Israel’
By Michael LucianoFeb 28th, 2022,

Televangelist Pat Robertson said that God has directed Vladimir Putin to invade Ukraine to use the country as a “staging ground” to launch an attack on Israel and bring about End Times.

Robertson made his bummer of a Revelation on Monday, stating that, “Putin’s out of his mind, yes. Maybe so, but at the same time he’s being compelled by God. He went into Ukraine but that wasn’t his goal.”

Dun dun dun!

Robertson, the retired televangelist, explained that Putin’s goal is “to move against Israel” along with several other countries including Iran, Turkey, Bulgaria.

“All of that area is going to be mobilized against Israel in the latter days, and God says, ‘I am going to deal with it.’ So, you can look at your map and read your newspapers, you can listen to your news, but know of a fact that God is bringing to pass what he prophesied years ago through his servant, Ezekiel.”

Isapop made a thread.
Northern is a Bible thumper. Believes the world will end when Russia attacks Israel.

It is in Revelations.
Also Enoch, I believe.
 
The whore of Babylon.
The Anti-Christ.
All that.

[abbey1227]

Mar 1, 2022 21:44:16 GMT merh said:

I said the company was not responsible for the teen's stupid designation, though yeah, would you write "black dude" as the description? Maybe a company policy of shirt color.

Dude...
Do you know how many times I have walked into a Starbucks & given my name, yet they manage to make it for "Merry"? How the fuck can you screw up "Mary"? Oh, yeah. I also get "Marry".
??
But if it's a trenta pink drink no fruit (my sister's drink. Not coffee) or my trenta Vanilla Cream Cold Brew sub the regular vanilla syrup for sugar free, then I assume it's my drinks.

I really don't sweat such a small detail. They are busy. I get my drink & slip out.

If he was about the only black dude in the joint, it would make sense to me to use that descriptor.

HAHA! Told ya. Kids these days. But in their very slight defense........there's this trend in America to spell even common names different so each child is the unique snowflake all parents know their child must be. 

You're a big Starbucks fan? How about those union moves? 

It IS a small detail. But if you wanted to these days........you could turn it into a lawsuit like every other perpetually wounded person.

Bert Kreischer's Netflix bit had a great joke on going to Starbucks and making the black kid behind the counter laugh.

[abbey1227]

Mar 1, 2022 22:02:18 GMT merh said:

Mar 1, 2022 12:24:08 GMT abbey1227 said:

1. OK........but let's be very specific here. Do you believe there's a very organized sex ring  serving the wealthiest types in the US? or not?

I think you're tying separate stories together to make your enemies seem more demonic, as well.

2. 41 MILLION?  Holee crap! That's many more than the Proud Boys or whatever Aryan group we're supposed to be scared of could ever muster. I have run into far more Obama worshipers than Trump worshipers. Maybe our locales are just that different? 

Colbert is a gay storm all on his own.     But I notice he's got no problems using gay slurs as a weapon.

3. The Tree of Liberty and all that. These Davos and WEF types want their Great Reset? Some spunky individual might just offer them another alternative version of that

1. No.
I do not believe there is ANYTHING that organized.
The Elizabeth Bathorys in the Modern World aren't that connected. Epstein seems the largest group & that was more a pimp providing product.

It's like saying every murder is connected. That murderers are all working together.

The world is more random

2. Why is it shocking?
41 million people buy into the QAnon craziness out of some 350 million Americans. 

You are still so pissed off about Colbert calling Trump Putin's cockholster? Do you know he apparently hasn't said Trump’s name on air since Biden was inaugurated? He has a list of insults submitted by viewers. Every time he uses one, he shows the info of who submitted it.


3. You are dipping over to that dark side, aren't you?

1. I see it differently. If every small neighborhood can have it's own gang and work/operate within that local system to protect itself........ I don't see the 'wealthy 1%' being all that different. They fly in tighter circles is all. That's WHY we've never gotten the contents of Jeffrey's little black book or a list of who was on his computer hard drive.

2. 41 million crazy paranoids seems a bit high to me. 10 million might make more sense. Otherwise the homeless population would be much greater. 

Stephen is busy sucking off the latest Democrat himself........ just as SNL has done for decades.

3. Slipping? That's the entire point of the 2nd Amendment, dear. It certainly isn't about hunting deer or turkey.

[abbey1227]

Mar 1, 2022 22:20:56 GMT merh said:

Northern is a Bible thumper. Believes the world will end when Russia attacks Israel.

It is in Revelations.
Also Enoch, I believe.
 
The whore of Babylon.
The Anti-Christ.
All that.

yeppers

IIRC, they believe that Russia and China are the nations predicted........

The Gog prophecy is meant to be fulfilled at the approach of what is called the "end of days", but not necessarily the end of the world. Jewish eschatology viewed Gog and Magog as enemies to be defeated by the Messiah, which would usher in the age of the Messiah. Christianity's interpretation is more starkly apocalyptic: making Gog and Magog, here indicating nations rather than individuals, allies of Satan against God at the end of the millennium, as described in the Book of Revelation.

[merh]

Mashtatoes•2 days ago

Russia is becoming increasingly irrelevant and Putin knows it. In 1992, Russia’s GDP was 25% bigger than China’s. Today China’s Share of global GDP (17.3%) is ten times that of Russia’s (1.7%), and NATO’s collective share (at 45.8%) is 27 times as large. The only things keeping Russia in the discussion are its oil and its weaponry (including nuclear capabilities).

jrochest1•2 days ago

Russia’s total year GDP is less than Canada’s — and their GDP per capita is about USD 10K per year. Legitimately, the per capita thing is a bit unfair, since it’s effected by a currency exchange rate, but Russia is still poor as hell.

And it’s poor as hell because PUTIN STEALS ALL THE MONEY.

[merh]

From a pro-russia reddit

Republican-Genocide•4 days ago

Fuck Ukraine. Ukraine is just a reactionary country aimed at delegitimizing Russia’s stance as a global power with the help of the CIA. They deserve the tanks that are obliterating their army essentially entirely made up of nazis . Stalin was right in trying to starve them out of existence, he must have known that one day they’d go rogue and stab Russia in the back.

[merh]

[merh]

This what your spy is pitching?

XiKeqiang•6 days ago

I was reading a bit more about the history of Russia, Putin, and NATO. It blows my mind that Putin wanted Russia to join NATO. It seemed like during the 90's Russia was hoping - maybe even expecting - to join NATO. But... NATO basically turned from a military alliance into an Imperialist Tool. NATO says that anyone can join - but only if they accept you which comes with huge conditions. It became clear that NATO was never going to allow Russia in - unless Russia made political and economic reforms that other NATO Countries wanted.

Basically, Putin went from admiring NATO as a way to integrate itself into Western Europe, to realizing that NATO is simply an Imperialist Tool to transform nation states into their own image.

Fuck. That. NATO should have disbanded after 1990. NATO should disband itself today.

Taryyrr•6 days ago

Well, to my knowledge, Putin is the chosen successor of the U.S puppet. It only makes sense that Putin was initially looking to integrate post Soviet Russia into the Capitalist world network even more. But, the Western Imperialists still operating on Cold War logic just wanted to destroy Russia, forcing Putin to become independent of the West and look to China for survival

[merh]

[merh]

Feb 28, 2022 13:06:10 GMT abbey1227 said:

Feb 28, 2022 12:52:21 GMT merh said:

This is about the DC one that seems to have fizzled.

After seeing how the Jan 6 crowd were treated............do you blame them?

It's usually people with NOTHING to lose that take more risks and participate in such behaviors.

I don't even have kids, but I like where I live and what I've got.

I also notice most hardcore bleeding hearts never seem to get around to parting with their wealth      Even Gates and others won't lessen their wealth until AFTER they're dead?

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trucker-convoy-washington-dc-protest-b2026209.html

Trucker convoy protest in Washington DC flops as no-one shows up
Organisers had expected thousands of people to attend Freedom Convoy event

Graeme Massie
Los Angeles
2 hours ago

A trucker rally at the Washington Monument failed to materialise as just a handful of protesters showed up at the event.

The National Parks Service had given permission for the demonstration at the Sylvan Theater and organisers expected several thousand people would rally against Covid-19 mandates.

But in the end there was more press and police at the event than protesters, according to The Daily Beast.

“Where are the trucks?” organiser Kyle Sefcik asked during his speech.

Mr Sefcik is an MMA fighter and independent candidate for governor in Maryland, and also the organiser of Freedom Convoy USA 2022, which was due to arrive in DC on Tuesday but was scrapped when just five trucks showed up in Las Vegas.

“Where are the trucks? I know the ones that I had planned coming that are local friends and family, I know they’re not even allowed in because they need a commercial license and have proof of a checkoff today because of the checkpoints so they weren’t even able to stage and make it look cool here.

“But I still showed up, even if none of you did, I’d still be right here, because I keep my word.”

Several trucker convoys are still on their way to DC, to oppose Covid mandates, at a time when most restrictions have been been removed by US states

[abbey1227]

Mar 2, 2022 18:07:12 GMT merh said:

This what your spy is pitching?

XiKeqiang•6 days ago


Fuck. That. NATO should have disbanded after 1990. NATO should disband itself today.

[merh]

Mar 3, 2022 13:54:54 GMT abbey1227 said:

Mar 2, 2022 18:07:12 GMT merh said:

This what your spy is pitching?

www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2022/02/22/putin_says_he_asked_bill_clinton_about_russia_joining_nato_in_year_2000.html

Russian President Vladimir Putin confirmed rumors that Russia sought to join NATO after the end of the Cold War, revealing during a speech on Monday that he asked Bill Clinton about it during a visit to Moscow in 2000.


VLADIMIR PUTIN: I will say one thing that I have never said before in public. I will say for the first time that in 2000 when President Bill Clinton was visiting Moscow at the end of his term, I asked him how would America see Russia joining NATO. I would not give you all the details of that conversation, but the reaction to my conversation -- look, well, let me put it this way. How did Americans really look at this possibility? You can see it in their practical stance. Open support of the terrorists in North Caucusus, ignoring our demands and concerns, withdrawing from the arms limitation treaties, and so on.

So why did Putin want Russia to join?

[abbey1227]

Mar 3, 2022 21:17:15 GMT merh said:

Mar 3, 2022 13:54:54 GMT abbey1227 said:

www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2022/02/22/putin_says_he_asked_bill_clinton_about_russia_joining_nato_in_year_2000.html

Russian President Vladimir Putin confirmed rumors that Russia sought to join NATO after the end of the Cold War, revealing during a speech on Monday that he asked Bill Clinton about it during a visit to Moscow in 2000.


VLADIMIR PUTIN: I will say one thing that I have never said before in public. I will say for the first time that in 2000 when President Bill Clinton was visiting Moscow at the end of his term, I asked him how would America see Russia joining NATO. I would not give you all the details of that conversation, but the reaction to my conversation -- look, well, let me put it this way. How did Americans really look at this possibility? You can see it in their practical stance. Open support of the terrorists in North Caucusus, ignoring our demands and concerns, withdrawing from the arms limitation treaties, and so on.

So why did Putin want Russia to join?

Cuz there's a ton of benefit to being 'in the club' and having the US send you foreign aid year after year

[merh]

Just because Allah has 2 "L's" & the one name is Sasha, not Natasha...
No reason to ruin a meme ABBEY would love