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Post by Prometheus on Nov 17, 2021 1:31:09 GMT
This was an interesting series starring Beady-eye Cumberbatch and Martin Nervousman as Sherlock Holmes and his biographer and buddy, Dr. Watson and how they would solve crimes in the 21st Century.
Holmes does his deduction thing while Watson does his fawn over Holmes thing but they do it while having access to modern technology... which they don't seem to need.
The rest of the familiar characters are all present but with an updated twist. Mrs. Hudson is still their landlady but she's the widow of a former drug cartel leader. Irene Adler is a dominatrix who trades secrets for money. Inspector Lestrad is still not the best cop in town but he fawns over Holmes almost as much as Watson for some reason. Moriarty is still a supervillain... and super gay. Mary Morstan is still the love interest of Watson but she's a former contract killer. Mycroft is still even more pompous than baby brother Sherlock but now portrayed as fit and trim.
The stories are based on classic Holmes stories but with modern twists that can get a bit outlandish.
If you're a classic Holmes fan, it's an interesting (but somewhat forgettable) romp but not as fun as RDJ's two movies IMHO.
How this series became such a "phenomenon" is quite beyond me. Don't get me wrong, the directing and cinematography are stellar but it's still Beady-eye Cumberbatch and Martin Nervousman playing themselves with better lines.
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Post by abbey1227 on Nov 17, 2021 9:46:47 GMT
This was an interesting series starring Beady-eye Cumberbatch and Martin Nervousman as Sherlock Holmes and his biographer and buddy, Dr. Watson and how they would solve crimes in the 21st Century.
Holmes does his deduction thing while Watson does his fawn over Holmes thing but they do it while having access to modern technology... which they don't seem to need.
The rest of the familiar characters are all present but with an updated twist. Mrs. Hudson is still their landlady but she's the widow of a former drug cartel leader. Irene Adler is a dominatrix who trades secrets for money. Inspector Lestrad is still not the best cop in town but he fawns over Holmes almost as much as Watson for some reason. Moriarty is still a supervillain... and super gay. Mary Morstan is still the love interest of Watson but she's a former contract killer. Mycroft is still even more pompous than baby brother Sherlock but now portrayed as fit and trim.
The stories are based on classic Holmes stories but with modern twists that can get a bit outlandish.
If you're a classic Holmes fan, it's an interesting (but somewhat forgettable) romp but not as fun as RDJ's two movies IMHO.
How this series became such a "phenomenon" is quite beyond me. Don't get me wrong, the directing and cinematography are stellar but it's still Beady-eye Cumberbatch and Martin Nervousman playing themselves with better lines.
How have you survived in this modern environment?
I really liked RDJ's 2 offerings, such strong casts.
This series is a bit tougher to embrace, as you've pointed out.
All I can figure is there are a ton of Cumberbatch fan-girls and boys out there who just gobble up whatever he's laying down. ![[giveup]](//storage.proboards.com/7182076/images/FSYefibmKqtatIXMgHZg.gif) |
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Post by Prometheus on Nov 17, 2021 10:36:02 GMT
This was an interesting series starring Beady-eye Cumberbatch and Martin Nervousman as Sherlock Holmes and his biographer and buddy, Dr. Watson and how they would solve crimes in the 21st Century.
Holmes does his deduction thing while Watson does his fawn over Holmes thing but they do it while having access to modern technology... which they don't seem to need.
The rest of the familiar characters are all present but with an updated twist. Mrs. Hudson is still their landlady but she's the widow of a former drug cartel leader. Irene Adler is a dominatrix who trades secrets for money. Inspector Lestrad is still not the best cop in town but he fawns over Holmes almost as much as Watson for some reason. Moriarty is still a supervillain... and super gay. Mary Morstan is still the love interest of Watson but she's a former contract killer. Mycroft is still even more pompous than baby brother Sherlock but now portrayed as fit and trim.
The stories are based on classic Holmes stories but with modern twists that can get a bit outlandish.
If you're a classic Holmes fan, it's an interesting (but somewhat forgettable) romp but not as fun as RDJ's two movies IMHO.
How this series became such a "phenomenon" is quite beyond me. Don't get me wrong, the directing and cinematography are stellar but it's still Beady-eye Cumberbatch and Martin Nervousman playing themselves with better lines.
How have you survived in this modern environment?
I really liked RDJ's 2 offerings, such strong casts.
This series is a bit tougher to embrace, as you've pointed out.
All I can figure is there are a ton of Cumberbatch fan-girls and boys out there who just gobble up whatever he's laying down. 1. I don't know
2. Me too (not #metoo)
3. Yup
4. And I don't get it. Those eyes seem to be screaming, "Can you help me lift this chair into the van? Don't mind the bloody cleavers and such." |
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Post by abbey1227 on Nov 17, 2021 10:43:27 GMT
4. And I don't get it. Those eyes seem to be screaming, "Can you help me lift this chair into the van? Don't mind the bloody cleavers and such."
of course you don't.
But remember, those tactics work again and again and again amongst the common crowd. 
Heck, people like Bundy even have adoring fans, too You might refer to some of those women as being "empowered".  |
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Post by Prometheus on Nov 17, 2021 10:57:21 GMT
4. And I don't get it. Those eyes seem to be screaming, "Can you help me lift this chair into the van? Don't mind the bloody cleavers and such."
of course you don't.
But remember, those tactics work again and again and again amongst the common crowd.
Heck, people like Bundy even have adoring fans, too You might refer to some of those women as being "empowered". True |
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Post by Prometheus on Mar 29, 2022 3:31:51 GMT
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Post by ant-mac on Mar 30, 2022 7:11:37 GMT
This was an interesting series starring Beady-eye Cumberbatch and Martin Nervousman as Sherlock Holmes and his biographer and buddy, Dr. Watson and how they would solve crimes in the 21st Century.
Holmes does his deduction thing while Watson does his fawn over Holmes thing but they do it while having access to modern technology... which they don't seem to need.
The rest of the familiar characters are all present but with an updated twist. Mrs. Hudson is still their landlady but she's the widow of a former drug cartel leader. Irene Adler is a dominatrix who trades secrets for money. Inspector Lestrad is still not the best cop in town but he fawns over Holmes almost as much as Watson for some reason. Moriarty is still a supervillain... and super gay. Mary Morstan is still the love interest of Watson but she's a former contract killer. Mycroft is still even more pompous than baby brother Sherlock but now portrayed as fit and trim.
The stories are based on classic Holmes stories but with modern twists that can get a bit outlandish.
If you're a classic Holmes fan, it's an interesting (but somewhat forgettable) romp but not as fun as RDJ's two movies IMHO.
How this series became such a "phenomenon" is quite beyond me. Don't get me wrong, the directing and cinematography are stellar but it's still Beady-eye Cumberbatch and Martin Nervousman playing themselves with better lines.
I was initially interested, but soon disappointed by this insubstantial and substandard entry into the world of Sherlock Holmes. It's not the first time that someone has tried to bring Sherlock Holmes into a contemporary setting, but the most notable previous attempt with Basil Rathbone and Nigel Bruce was far more effective. It tries to be clever, fresh and original, but it's just not in the same league as the likes of Basil Rathbone, Jeremy Brett or even Tom Baker. And the reason for this is Mark Gatiss and Steven Moffat. They're simply not as clever or as talented as they'd like to think they are. They tried to juggle the productions of DOCTOR WHO and SHERLOCK simultaneously... and ended up failing miserably on both. PS - And I can't say I was overly impressed with RDJ's stint as Sherlock Holmes either. Jeremy Brett is the very pinnacle and the benchmark by which all other SH contenders should be compared and judged... and very few would come close. And once you've finished watching his superlative run as the PI with the extra high IQ, do yourself a favour and watch the brilliant, but all too short TV series, MURDER ROOMS: THE DARK BEGINNINGS OF SHERLOCK HOLMES. |
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Post by merh on Apr 6, 2022 13:27:38 GMT
My kid loved this show for a year or 2
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Post by Prometheus on Apr 7, 2022 0:27:53 GMT
My kid loved this show for a year or 2 The first 2 seasons were the best of the 4. |
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Post by abbey1227 on Apr 15, 2022 14:26:45 GMT
PS - And I can't say I was overly impressed with RDJ's stint as Sherlock Holmes either.
I just rewatched the two of them again..........and I gotta say, I'm not sure what left you with a negative impression?
Was it too actiony/slo-mo explosive? Too humorous bro-love relationship?
Or just they didn't take the entire Sherlock history serious enough for you? Too each their own and we all have nostalgic preferences.......but I'm still laughing about the camouflage and drugging of the dog.
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Post by ant-mac on Apr 15, 2022 14:59:29 GMT
PS - And I can't say I was overly impressed with RDJ's stint as Sherlock Holmes either.
I just rewatched the two of them again..........and I gotta say, I'm not sure what left you with a negative impression?
Was it too actiony/slo-mo explosive? Too humorous bro-love relationship?
Or just they didn't take the entire Sherlock history serious enough for you? Too each their own and we all have nostalgic preferences.......but I'm still laughing about the camouflage and drugging of the dog.
1. They're not the worst films I've ever seen... they're just bad Sherlock Holmes films. 2. Yes, that's certainly part of the problem. 3. All of that and the fact that they simply drift too far away from the essense of Sherlock Holmes. PS - If you want a fresh approach that is still appropriate, try MR HOLMES with Ian McKellen. |
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Post by abbey1227 on Apr 16, 2022 1:59:08 GMT
I just rewatched the two of them again..........and I gotta say, I'm not sure what left you with a negative impression?
Was it too actiony/slo-mo explosive? Too humorous bro-love relationship?
Or just they didn't take the entire Sherlock history serious enough for you? Too each their own and we all have nostalgic preferences.......but I'm still laughing about the camouflage and drugging of the dog.
1. They're not the worst films I've ever seen... they're just bad Sherlock Holmes films. 2. Yes, that's certainly part of the problem. 3. All of that and the fact that they simply drift too far away from the essense of Sherlock Holmes.PS - If you want a fresh approach that is still appropriate, try MR HOLMES with Ian McKellen.
Sounds like an excellent title for another version...........as long as it was spelled correctly, my good man. |
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Post by Prometheus on Apr 16, 2022 23:03:46 GMT
1. They're not the worst films I've ever seen... they're just bad Sherlock Holmes films. 2. Yes, that's certainly part of the problem. 3. All of that and the fact that they simply drift too far away from the essense of Sherlock Holmes.PS - If you want a fresh approach that is still appropriate, try MR HOLMES with Ian McKellen.
Sounds like an excellent title for another version...........as long as it was spelled correctly, my good man.  It's early and I haven't finished my first cuppa, so my brain goes to strange places:
The Essenes and Sherlock Holmes: The world's most famous detective is hot on the trail of the historic Jesus.
I need more caffeine....
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