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Post by abbey1227 on Jun 15, 2021 8:37:19 GMT
.........for yet another modern day martyr.
Tribune Publishing
Florida man rammed police dog, broke into mayor’s home, police say
Justine Griffin, Tampa Bay Times Mon, June 14, 2021, 2:49 PM
A Florida man was arrested Monday after he tried to run over a police dog and its handler, then broke into the home of Haines City’s mayor, according to the Haines City Police Department.
Matthew Swett, 31, who is from Osceola County, was spotted at a construction site about 2 a.m. Monday morning in Haines City by a patrolling officer. He ran and jumped into his blue 2003 Toyota and drove directly at the officer, who was in his patrol car with the emergency lights on, according to a news release. Swett struck the patrol car and fled the construction site, officers said.
A K-9 officer caught up with Swett on Old Polk City Road. A short pursuit ended when Swett’s vehicle ran into a ditch, officers said.
The officer deployed a K-9 named Cash, on a leash, and gave Swett clear directions, the release said. Swett ignored the officer and put his car into reverse and struck the K-9, officers said. The officer was able to scoop the dog into his arms in time to avoid him being run over. Cash was not injured.
Swett drove off and crashed the car near the intersection of Prado Grande Avenue and Old Polk City Road. He and his passenger in the car, Kaila Ellig, 32, of Davenport, left the car and ran into the woods before the vehicle caught fire, officers said.
Deputies with Polk and Osceola counties helped search for the suspects and deployed a helicopter over the area. Swett and Ellig climbed a fence and cut a hole to access the screened-in back porch of Haines City Mayor Morris West’s home in the Randa Ridge subdivision, officers said.
Swett refused to surrender when authorities arrived, the release said. Fearing further escalation with the occupants in the home, officers deployed the same K-9, Cash, who bit Swett on the leg. Officers were able to physically secure Swett and they found a knife and prescription drugs on him, the release said.
After being treated for the dog bite, Swett was taken to the Polk County Jail. Swett has a prior criminal history that includes robbery, burglary, dealing in stolen property, drugs and driving offenses. Ellig has been charged in the past with grand theft, fraud and drug possession.
Swett faces charges of armed burglary, two counts of battery on a law enforcement officer, use a deadly weapon on a police K-9, fleeing to elude, leaving the scene of a crash, criminal mischief, driving on a suspended license, resisting arrest without violence, driving an unregistered vehicle and possession of Buprenorphine. Ellig face charges of burglary of an occupied structure and resisting arrest without violence.
”I am thankful we have such a professional police department who literally work day and night to protect our city,” Mayor West said in a statement. “Our officers and their county partners showed tenacious resolve to stay on the heels of these suspects and bring this to a peaceful conclusion.”
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Post by Prometheus on Jun 15, 2021 18:51:20 GMT
I wonder why these two didn't get shot at: :strip_exif(true):strip_icc(true):no_upscale(true):quality(65):fill(FFF)/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/gmg/6UMZYPJQAJEJ3LNRMERLLPL3CA.jpg) |
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Post by abbey1227 on Jun 16, 2021 3:52:57 GMT
I wonder why these two didn't get shot at:
Is it wrong that I am kinda disappointed they weren't?
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Post by Prometheus on Jun 16, 2021 4:03:28 GMT
I wonder why these two didn't get shot at:
Is it wrong that I am kinda disappointed they weren't?
Nope.
But you understand why they weren't shot at, right?
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Post by abbey1227 on Jun 16, 2021 4:26:17 GMT
Is it wrong that I am kinda disappointed they weren't?
Nope.
But you understand why they weren't shot at, right?
No, I don't. I do get your insinuation.
But plenty of black cops shoot black criminals........and if I'm not mistaken, whites are still shot more than blacks. I realize it's not conveniently reflective of the entire population stat-wise...... but a lot of things aren't.
Black Lives Matter? That belief seems to hold about the least value to all the young black men that account for the shooting deaths of most black men. But let's focus on cops. A much smaller threat to all of them.
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Post by Prometheus on Jun 16, 2021 4:50:15 GMT
Nope.
But you understand why they weren't shot at, right?
No, I don't. I do get your insinuation.
But plenty of black cops shoot black criminals........and if I'm not mistaken, whites are still shot more than blacks. I realize it's not conveniently reflective of the entire population stat-wise...... but a lot of things aren't.
Black Lives Matter? That belief seems to hold about the least value to all the young black men that account for the shooting deaths of most black men. But let's focus on cops. A much smaller threat to all of them.
We all know what news stories sell.
We all know that stories about black people being shot by black cops don't last long in the news cycle... maybe even shorter than the stories of the 450 to 500 white people that get shot and killed by police each year.
But you know that if that couple had been black and tried to run down a cop and his K-9 that they would have been shot full of holes in Florida.
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Post by abbey1227 on Jun 16, 2021 4:54:44 GMT
That seems like you're the one letting the media dictate the narrative to you.
And wasn't your hometown/city known up until very recently as one of the worst areas in the US when it came to racial harmony? Not to pry too much, but did that maybe affect how you see the rest of the country?
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Post by Prometheus on Jun 16, 2021 5:08:54 GMT
That seems like you're the one letting the media dictate the narrative to you.
And wasn't your hometown/city known up until very recently as one of the worst areas in the US when it came to racial harmony? Not to pry too much, but did that maybe affect how you see the rest of the country?
I grew up in Boston during busing. By 1980..82, my dad and I were the last white people in the neighborhood for several blocks in any direction. Walking the 9 blocks home from the trolley station was a harrowing experience on the best of days. I've been mugged, jumped, beaten up, and shot, yet I still don't blame black people as a group for anything other than being misguided.
Also, during that time of neighborhood change, I saw plenty of small "riots" - mostly groups black people fighting groups of white people in the street. The police would show up, beat up, and arrest every black person they could catch while telling the white folks just to go home.
That never seemed fair to me and it still doesn't, no matter where I get my news. ![[giveup]](//storage.proboards.com/7182076/images/FSYefibmKqtatIXMgHZg.gif) |
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Post by abbey1227 on Jun 16, 2021 5:14:32 GMT
I grew up in Boston during busing. By 1980..82, my dad and I were the last white people in the neighborhood for several blocks in any direction. Walking the 9 blocks home from the trolley station was a harrowing experience on the best of days. I've been mugged, jumped, beaten up, and shot, yet I still don't blame black people as a group for anything other than being misguided.
Also, during that time of neighborhood change, I saw plenty of small "riots" - mostly groups black people fighting groups of white people in the street. The police would show up, beat up, and arrest every black person they could catch while telling the white folks just to go home.
That never seemed fair to me and it still doesn't, no matter where I get my news.
I'd certainly have to agree with you on that last line. Cops/Govt are supposed to be color/gender/creed-blind.
I think it was the treatment some of the more famous Boston Celtics received that shed some light of that situation to me.
It always struck me as odd since we were always told it was the South that had all the racial problems. But up there? in an area where a lot of the earliest stories of the American Revolution played out? And one of the largest metropolitan areas?
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Post by Prometheus on Jun 17, 2021 2:13:22 GMT
I grew up in Boston during busing. By 1980..82, my dad and I were the last white people in the neighborhood for several blocks in any direction. Walking the 9 blocks home from the trolley station was a harrowing experience on the best of days. I've been mugged, jumped, beaten up, and shot, yet I still don't blame black people as a group for anything other than being misguided.
Also, during that time of neighborhood change, I saw plenty of small "riots" - mostly groups black people fighting groups of white people in the street. The police would show up, beat up, and arrest every black person they could catch while telling the white folks just to go home.
That never seemed fair to me and it still doesn't, no matter where I get my news.
I'd certainly have to agree with you on that last line. Cops/Govt are supposed to be color/gender/creed-blind.
I think it was the treatment some of the more famous Boston Celtics received that shed some light of that situation to me.
It always struck me as odd since we were always told it was the South that had all the racial problems. But up there? in an area where a lot of the earliest stories of the American Revolution played out? And one of the largest metropolitan areas?
It's certainly a horrible blemish on Boston, and Mass. as a whole. Crispus Attucks, a black man, was the first to die at the Boston Massacre. Massachusetts ended slavery before the US was officially recognized as a country. Massachusetts was the only state to have ZERO registered slaves in the census of 1790.
But all anyone ever remembers is this:
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Post by abbey1227 on Jun 17, 2021 12:35:57 GMT
Wasn't indentured servitude, especially in the NorthEast still very much in practice up until the Civil War?
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Post by Prometheus on Jun 17, 2021 14:14:56 GMT
Wasn't indentured servitude, especially in the NorthEast still very much in practice up until the Civil War?
Do you really want to get into that?
It's (slightly) different than slavery... but not much....
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Post by abbey1227 on Jun 17, 2021 14:53:16 GMT
Wasn't indentured servitude, especially in the NorthEast still very much in practice up until the Civil War?
Do you really want to get into that?
It's (slightly) different than slavery... but not much....
Well, it's pretty much a limited time (repayment) versus lifetime ownership
The kind of horrible stuff that was practiced worldwide........and even goes on today
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Post by Prometheus on Jun 18, 2021 0:23:24 GMT
Wasn't indentured servitude, especially in the NorthEast still very much in practice up until the Civil War?
During the Revolution, the number of indentured servants fell from 17% to 6.4%
Due to the passing of several laws, it was already a rare thing by the 1830's but not officially abolished until the 13th Amendment which said that only prisons could make people work for their freedom.
In the Northern States, Pennsylvania was the place where most indentured servants lived post-Revolution, but again, that was pretty much all gone by the 1830's.
Southern States made good use of indentured servants. They were the "crackers."
Indentured servitude still exists in the US to this day, though we use the term "human trafficking" now.
You really should have just looked it up and saved yourself a smack-down.
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Post by abbey1227 on Jun 18, 2021 0:30:28 GMT
During the Revolution, the number of indentured servants fell from 17% to 6.4%
Due to the passing of several laws, it was already a rare thing by the 1830's but not officially abolished until the 13th Amendment which said that only prisons could make people work for their freedom.
In the Northern States, Pennsylvania was the place where most indentured servants lived post-Revolution, but again, that was pretty much all gone by the 1830's.
Southern States made good use of indentured servants. They were the "crackers."
Indentured servitude still exists in the US to this day, though we use the term "human trafficking" now.
You really should have just looked it up and saved yourself a smack-down.
You call it a smackdown? I call it attempting a conversation.........should I bother anymore?
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Post by Prometheus on Jun 18, 2021 1:07:22 GMT
During the Revolution, the number of indentured servants fell from 17% to 6.4%
Due to the passing of several laws, it was already a rare thing by the 1830's but not officially abolished until the 13th Amendment which said that only prisons could make people work for their freedom.
In the Northern States, Pennsylvania was the place where most indentured servants lived post-Revolution, but again, that was pretty much all gone by the 1830's.
Southern States made good use of indentured servants. They were the "crackers."
Indentured servitude still exists in the US to this day, though we use the term "human trafficking" now.
You really should have just looked it up and saved yourself a smack-down.
You call it a smackdown? I call it attempting a conversation.........should I bother anymore?
You tried to take a cheap shot by trying to equate indentured servitude in the north with slavery in the south and you failed.
If you want to have a conversation, have one. If you want to try to take cheap shots, you have to deal with getting smacked down. |
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Post by abbey1227 on Jun 18, 2021 1:16:23 GMT
You tried to take a cheap shot by trying to equate indentured servitude in the north with slavery in the south and you failed.
If you want to have a conversation, have one. If you want to try to take cheap shots, you have to deal with getting smacked down.
Equate? or just mention?
I've also mentioned how England likes ot praise itself for doing away with slavery.............while it continued with the Colony Game for decades until WWII. It's just a different form of slavery, isn't it?
Heck, there's people arguing today that being 'forced' to work in the US at McDonalds or Walmart is yet another form of slavery. |
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Post by Prometheus on Jun 18, 2021 1:35:49 GMT
You tried to take a cheap shot by trying to equate indentured servitude in the north with slavery in the south and you failed.
If you want to have a conversation, have one. If you want to try to take cheap shots, you have to deal with getting smacked down.
Equate? or just mention?
I've also mentioned how England likes ot praise itself for doing away with slavery.............while it continued with the Colony Game for decades until WWII. It's just a different form of slavery, isn't it?
Heck, there's people arguing today that being 'forced' to work in the US at McDonalds or Walmart is yet another form of slavery. 1. If I weren't from New England, you wouldn't have mentioned it.
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Post by abbey1227 on Jun 18, 2021 2:03:22 GMT
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So sayeth the Shepard
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Post by Prometheus on Jun 18, 2021 2:08:36 GMT
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So sayeth the Shepard
So sayeth the flock |
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