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Post by abbey1227 on Jun 4, 2021 13:45:28 GMT
Get up out of that armchair, go get a gun and start shooting whomever you think is a bad person. ![[giveup]](//storage.proboards.com/7182076/images/FSYefibmKqtatIXMgHZg.gif)
Just remember to watch your back as some people may have deemed your actions and comments worthy of extrajudicial punishment.
"An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind."
I'm a live and let live type, though. And apathetic.
I'd have been shot over a million times if all it took was other posters disapproving of my thoughts and words.
"At least the uglies would finally get a fair share of the action."
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Post by Prometheus on Jun 4, 2021 14:49:17 GMT
Get up out of that armchair, go get a gun and start shooting whomever you think is a bad person.
Just remember to watch your back as some people may have deemed your actions and comments worthy of extrajudicial punishment.
"An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind."
I'm a live and let live type, though. And apathetic.
I'd have been shot over a million times if all it took was other posters disapproving of my thoughts and words.
"At least the uglies would finally get a fair share of the action."
Then why stand up for a guy who isn't? |
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Post by abbey1227 on Jun 4, 2021 23:48:56 GMT
I'm a live and let live type, though. And apathetic.
I'd have been shot over a million times if all it took was other posters disapproving of my thoughts and words.
"At least the uglies would finally get a fair share of the action."
Then why stand up for a guy who isn't?
Like so many of these kinds of discussions, I'm sorta asked to 'pick a side'
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Post by Prometheus on Jun 4, 2021 23:52:16 GMT
Then why stand up for a guy who isn't?
Like so many of these kinds of discussions, I'm sorta asked to 'pick a side'
Not really, but even if you feel you are, why do you (most) consistently choose the side of the authoritarian douche bag? |
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Post by abbey1227 on Jun 4, 2021 23:55:23 GMT
Like so many of these kinds of discussions, I'm sorta asked to 'pick a side'
Not really, but even if you feel you are, why do you (most) consistently choose the side of the authoritarian douche bag?
It's sorta like that line from Clerks.......... "You hate people!" ........ "And yet, I love gatherings. Ironic, isn't it?"
For as freedom loving/libertarian/anti-Govt as I am........ I also believe that if you harm others, then there should be some form of forced responsibility. Which is ironic, because my entire diatribe is usually against all of the forced responsibility the Govt demands.
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Post by Prometheus on Jun 5, 2021 0:02:32 GMT
Not really, but even if you feel you are, why do you (most) consistently choose the side of the authoritarian douche bag?
It's sorta like that line from Clerks.......... "You hate people!" ........ "And yet, I love gatherings. Ironic, isn't it?"
For as freedom loving/libertarian/anti-Govt as I am........ I also believe that if you harm others, then there should be some form of forced responsibility. Which is ironic, because my entire diatribe is usually against all of the forced responsibility the Govt demands.
Does a bum asking for money "harm" you?
Does a bum ranting about you not giving them money "harm" you?
If you think the bum might be a danger to yourself or others, why not call the people whose job it is to deal with it? What's the matter? Afraid it will take them away from their oh-so-important job of stopping people with broken taillights and dangling air fresheners who 98% of the time are polite and accept a simple warning or even the ticket and go on with their lives?
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Post by abbey1227 on Jun 5, 2021 0:07:55 GMT
Does a bum asking for money "harm" you?
Does a bum ranting about you not giving them money "harm" you?
If you think the bum might be a danger to yourself or others, why not call the people whose job it is to deal with it? What's the matter? Afraid it will take them away from their oh-so-important job of stopping people with broken taillights and dangling air fresheners who 98% of the time are polite and accept a simple warning or even the ticket and go on with their lives?
No........ and I just had that happen recently.
While I just said "No"........an older woman was already inside the store I was entering complaining about the fella. He was, no doubt, harming that business' atmosphere and ability to attract repeat customers. This is why they used to enforce loitering and panhandling laws.
I do not see that as a reason to call 911 or the police. I can just say 'No'
As jpat has pointed out many, many times........ cops do not choose the focus of their enforcement. That comes from higher ups. Want it changed? Talk to those higher ups, usually politicians. As I've pointed out, less Govt automatically means less laws/regulations. I don't know why that doesn't equate for so many others? |
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Post by Prometheus on Jun 5, 2021 0:11:26 GMT
Does a bum asking for money "harm" you?
Does a bum ranting about you not giving them money "harm" you?
If you think the bum might be a danger to yourself or others, why not call the people whose job it is to deal with it? What's the matter? Afraid it will take them away from their oh-so-important job of stopping people with broken taillights and dangling air fresheners who 98% of the time are polite and accept a simple warning or even the ticket and go on with their lives?
No........ and I just had that happen recently.
While I just said "No"........an older woman was already inside the store I was entering complaining about the fella. He was, no doubt, harming that business' atmosphere and ability to attract repeat customers. This is why they used to enforce loitering and panhandling laws.
I do not see that as a reason to call 911 or the police. I can just say 'No'
As jpat has pointed out many, many times........ cops do not choose the focus of their enforcement. That comes from higher ups. Want it changed? Talk to those higher ups, usually politicians. As I've pointed out, less Govt automatically means less laws/regulations. I don't know why that doesn't equate for so many others? And yet you defend an off-duty cop for shooting a mouthy bum.
Weird.
Time to head to the first class of the day. TTYL ![[cheers]](//storage.proboards.com/7182076/images/engyBVslEdpmpmdnBwZQ.gif) |
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Post by abbey1227 on Jun 5, 2021 0:30:00 GMT
And yet you defend an off-duty cop for shooting a mouthy bum.
Weird.
Time to head to the first class of the day. TTYL By Brittany Bernstein June 4, 2021 8:10 AM
Just picking a side, I guess
And I wouldn't even consider living somewhere that I'd need to take public transport everywhere. Ugh
EDIT: I just gotta ask.......... what's your take on all of this trashing of the US and police by the so-called 'educators' here?
For years I've complained that the MSM edits and omits things to make things appear better than they actually are........but that is not the case with them and those 2 subjects either. |
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Post by Prometheus on Jun 6, 2021 1:16:02 GMT
And yet you defend an off-duty cop for shooting a mouthy bum.
Weird.
Time to head to the first class of the day. TTYL By Brittany Bernstein June 4, 2021 8:10 AM
Just picking a side, I guess
And I wouldn't even consider living somewhere that I'd need to take public transport everywhere. Ugh
EDIT: I just gotta ask.......... what's your take on all of this trashing of the US and police by the so-called 'educators' here?
For years I've complained that the MSM edits and omits things to make things appear better than they actually are........but that is not the case with them and those 2 subjects either. But you're choosing a side based on the wrong perspective.
Choose the side of "good behavior" vs "bad behavior" rather than "authority" vs "everybody else."
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Post by abbey1227 on Jun 6, 2021 1:29:14 GMT
But you're choosing a side based on the wrong perspective.
Choose the side of "good behavior" vs "bad behavior" rather than "authority" vs "everybody else."
What if most of 'everybody else' just happens to be morons? or just plain whackadoodles?
This seems a circular and bizarre argument......... politics involves promoting leaders to be the 'authority' so they can dispense rules and regulations for 'everybody else'.........but now when a few of those everybodys refuses to comply in the minimum way........we're all just supposed to abandon all rules and regulations? or at least bend them for certain people?
Seems like an awfully slippery slope. Especially coming from a teacher that I assume has had as many as 20-30 little 'everybody elses' under his authority.
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Post by Prometheus on Jun 6, 2021 1:37:33 GMT
But you're choosing a side based on the wrong perspective.
Choose the side of "good behavior" vs "bad behavior" rather than "authority" vs "everybody else."
What if most of 'everybody else' just happens to be morons? or just plain whackadoodles?
This seems a circular and bizarre argument......... politics involves promoting leaders to be the 'authority' so they can dispense rules and regulations for 'everybody else'.........but now when a few of those everybodys refuses to comply in the minimum way........we're all just supposed to abandon all rules and regulations? or at least bend them for certain people?
Seems like an awfully slippery slope. Especially coming from a teacher that I assume has had as many as 20-30 little 'everybody elses' under his authority.
Again... perspective
There's a (for lack of a better term) "right" way of exercising authority and a wrong way.
I can tell my students to be quiet or I can beat them into unconsciousness to quiet them.
See?
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Post by abbey1227 on Jun 6, 2021 1:40:00 GMT
Again... perspective
There's a (for lack of a better term) "right" way of exercising authority and a wrong way.
I can tell my students to be quiet or I can beat them into unconsciousness to quiet them.
See?
I do see. And when a few refuse to listen?
I'm not supporting shooting your pupils because they cease to comply..........but those are also pretty much harmless children in a controlled setting.
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Post by Prometheus on Jun 6, 2021 1:44:35 GMT
Again... perspective
There's a (for lack of a better term) "right" way of exercising authority and a wrong way.
I can tell my students to be quiet or I can beat them into unconsciousness to quiet them.
See?
I do see. And when a few refuse to listen?
I'm not supporting shooting your pupils because they cease to comply..........but those are also pretty much harmless children in a controlled setting.
When they refuse, I seek other - non-violent - options.
Just because I hold the authority doesn't mean I have the right to do whatever I want.
That's the point.
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Post by abbey1227 on Jun 6, 2021 1:48:24 GMT
When they refuse, I seek other - non-violent - options.
Just because I hold the authority doesn't mean I have the right to do whatever I want.
That's the point.
That's an important distinction.
You're not given that right......... yet law enforcement is.
That's why they're armed. And in my opinion that's why citizens should be armed, as well. To be able to protect themselves and others at all times from problem people.
Your suggestions seems to be to remove that right/authority from law enforcement (we won't even mention the 2nd Amendment for everyone else) and let the problem people continue to run amok. I am picking a side in that.
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Post by Prometheus on Jun 6, 2021 9:32:48 GMT
When they refuse, I seek other - non-violent - options.
Just because I hold the authority doesn't mean I have the right to do whatever I want.
That's the point.
That's an important distinction.
You're not given that right......... yet law enforcement is.
That's why they're armed. And in my opinion that's why citizens should be armed, as well. To be able to protect themselves and others at all times from problem people.
Your suggestions seems to be to remove that right/authority from law enforcement (we won't even mention the 2nd Amendment for everyone else) and let the problem people continue to run amok. I am picking a side in that.
1. Yes it is
2. No they aren't. That's kinda the point behind all the protests etc.
3. And yet the subway bum had already walked away. The Agent had no need to protect himself until he went off to play hero.
4. If you think that's what I'm suggesting, then you're too stupid to breed. Thanks for not doing it.
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Post by abbey1227 on Jun 6, 2021 11:38:26 GMT
1. Yes it is
2. No they aren't. That's kinda the point behind all the protests etc.
3. And yet the subway bum had already walked away. The Agent had no need to protect himself until he went off to play hero.
4. If you think that's what I'm suggesting, then you're too stupid to breed. Thanks for not doing it.
2. Excuse you me.........they are. They're given a gun and the latitude to decide if theirs or someone else's life or safety is in danger. In fact, they're given more latitude, imo, than you or I armed with our own guns for self protection. The perks of being an agent of the Big Govt.
3. He walked away? Or returned and was shot? Did I miss the bullets to the back, like they so often like to claim?
4. I don't see any real world suggestions for dealing with many of these problem people. Love? Hugs? More social workers? Doesn't seem likely to work.
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Post by Prometheus on Jun 7, 2021 0:53:31 GMT
1. Yes it is
2. No they aren't. That's kinda the point behind all the protests etc.
3. And yet the subway bum had already walked away. The Agent had no need to protect himself until he went off to play hero.
4. If you think that's what I'm suggesting, then you're too stupid to breed. Thanks for not doing it.
2. Excuse you me.........they are. They're given a gun and the latitude to decide if theirs or someone else's life or safety is in danger. In fact, they're given more latitude, imo, than you or I armed with our own guns for self protection. The perks of being an agent of the Big Govt.
3. He walked away? Or returned and was shot? Did I miss the bullets to the back, like they so often like to claim?
4. I don't see any real world suggestions for dealing with many of these problem people. Love? Hugs? More social workers? Doesn't seem likely to work.
2. Hence the protests. Is this sinking in?
3. He returned because the cop wanted to play hero. The cop said something that he had to know would instigate a confrontation. That is "going off to play hero."
I'm baffled how you can bemoan "agents of the government" having more power than the common citizen in one paragraph then try to defend them for abusing that power in another. Oh that's right. You want everyone to be able to go off and play hero without consequence.
I'll bet you've even sent money to Rittenhouse' defense fund.
4. How to get rid of a bum on the train: Say, "Sorry. I don't carry cash." then let him move on even if he yells and screams at you as he's walking away. If you feel that the person could be a danger to others, call the authorities. That is and has been my suggestion. I never suggested love, hugs, social workers, or the infringement of the 2nd Amendment.
But let's talk about the further stupidity of the wannabe hero: He was in a small crowded space without access to non-lethal weapons other than his hands. All he had was a gun. Even if it hadn't been mentioned in his training, common sense dictates that physical altercation in such a small space is prohibitive and any use of his sidearm could turn out to be deadly to innocent bystanders. With both of those ideas in mind, instigating a confrontation was idiotic.
If he really wanted to play hero, he could have waited until the bum got off the train or for the carriage to empty out a bit at least.
He had plenty of options - options he was trained to look for and see - yet he chose the most dangerous one. It's a shame that he will probably get away with this.
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Post by abbey1227 on Jun 16, 2021 13:06:44 GMT
He had plenty of options - options he was trained to look for and see - yet he chose the most dangerous one. It's a shame that he will probably get away with this.
A man has been arrested after slashing an off-duty NYPD transit officer in the back of the head at a Manhattan subway station Tuesday afternoon, police said. The attack occurred just after 12 p.m. at the 14th Street-Union Square N/Q/R stop, according to police. The 29-year-old victim said that the man stabbed him in the back of head with an unknown sharp object. The officer then followed the suspect until on-duty officers arrived and took him into custody. Benjamin Mazyck, 42, was arrested and charged with assault and weapon possession, police said. The Brooklyn resident has 41 prior arrests, and confronted the off-duty officer after saying to him, "What are you looking at?"
Mazyck allegedly stabbed the 29-year-old victim in the back of the head at an NQR line turnstile.
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Post by abbey1227 on Jun 16, 2021 22:45:42 GMT
More cameras and surveillance? Drones? Time for the National Guard yet?
Chicago Tribune
7 out of 8 in mass shooting in Chicago's Englewood neighborhood were shot in head, likely by 2 gunmen, police report saysPaige Fry and Rosemary Sobol, Chicago Tribune Wed, June 16, 2021, 4:12 PM CHICAGO — Chicago police believe two people entered an Englewood home early Monday and shot eight people — four fatally and seven in the head, according to a police report. About 5:45 a.m. Tuesday, officers received a call of shots fired from the second-floor residents of a house in the 6200 block of South Morgan Street on the South Side, the report based on preliminary information said. The officers entered the first-floor apartment of the house and found four people all unresponsive with gunshot wounds to the head. They were all in various rooms of the apartment. Three of the surviving victims found at the scene also had gunshot wounds to their heads, the report said. One victim, a 23-year-old man, had a through-and-through gunshot wound to the back, and he self-transported to St. Bernard’s Hospital in critical condition before he was transferred to the University of Chicago Medical Center. Police learned that two males came inside the house and shot all the victims, the report said. Numerous .45-caliber and 9 mm shell casings were found throughout the home, the report said. Of those who died, Shametria Williams, 19, and Ratanya Aryiel Rogers, 28, were identified by the Cook County medical examiner’s office. A 35-year-old man and a 32-year-old woman were also killed, but they have not yet been identified, pending notification of their family. Those who survived — in addition to the 23-year-old man — were a 25-year-old woman shot in the head in critical condition, a 25-year-old man with a gunshot wound lodged to the head and a graze wound to the head in fair condition, and a 41-year-old man with a gunshot wound to the head and a graze to the head in serious condition, the report said. The oldest victim was taken to Advocate Christ Medical Center in Oak Lawn, and the two 25-year-olds were taken to the University of Chicago Medical Center, police said. No arrests have been made.
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