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Post by Prometheus on Nov 7, 2020 23:39:29 GMT
Good morning, President-elect Biden and Vice President-elect Harris.
I look forward to 4 years of bitching about you.
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Post by abbey1227 on Nov 7, 2020 23:48:10 GMT
Good morning, President-elect Biden and Vice President-elect Harris.
I look forward to 4 years of bitching about you.
There's even extra votes in the back.....  ...... if you need 'em |
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Post by Prometheus on Nov 8, 2020 9:24:06 GMT
Good morning, President-elect Biden and Vice President-elect Harris.
I look forward to 4 years of bitching about you.
There's even extra votes in the back..... ...... if you need 'em Doubtful.
This was probably the election with the most oversight in history simply because the allegations began even before the primaries.
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Post by ant-mac on Nov 8, 2020 11:41:48 GMT
And in conclusion, the old white guy won and half the nation were pissed off by the result. I'm sorry, do you need me to be more specific?  |
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Post by ant-mac on Nov 8, 2020 11:49:07 GMT
Good morning, President-elect Biden and Vice President-elect Harris.
I look forward to 4 years of bitching about you.
There's even extra votes in the back..... ...... if you need 'em Nah, just put them to one side, in case we need them next time round...  |
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Post by abbey1227 on Nov 8, 2020 15:41:08 GMT
There's even extra votes in the back..... ...... if you need 'em Doubtful.
This was probably the election with the most oversight in history simply because the allegations began even before the primaries.
You really are a trusting soul, huh?
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Post by Prometheus on Nov 8, 2020 15:51:04 GMT
And in conclusion, the old white guy won and half the nation were pissed off by the result. I'm sorry, do you need me to be more specific? I doubt the "old white guy" will last 2 years. Imagine how pissy the right is going to get when a black woman is POTUS. |
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Post by Prometheus on Nov 8, 2020 15:51:59 GMT
Doubtful.
This was probably the election with the most oversight in history simply because the allegations began even before the primaries.
You really are a trusting soul, huh?
Just rational.
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Post by ant-mac on Nov 8, 2020 15:56:14 GMT
And in conclusion, the old white guy won and half the nation were pissed off by the result. I'm sorry, do you need me to be more specific? I doubt the "old white guy" will last 2 years. Imagine how pissy the right is going to get when a black woman is POTUS.  |
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Post by ant-mac on Nov 8, 2020 15:58:14 GMT
You really are a trusting soul, huh?
Just rational.
Hey! Being rational and reasonable is supposed to be my... Oh, wait... sorry. I forgot, I'm the lazy fucker. Carry on. |
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Post by Prometheus on Nov 8, 2020 23:39:53 GMT
Hey! Being rational and reasonable is supposed to be my... Oh, wait... sorry. I forgot, I'm the lazy fucker. Carry on. SIYL!!!  |
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Post by ant-mac on Nov 9, 2020 9:25:02 GMT
Hey! Being rational and reasonable is supposed to be my... Oh, wait... sorry. I forgot, I'm the lazy fucker. Carry on. SIYL!!! Well, that was fun... a 9 hour internet outage. Anyway, I'm truly delighted and impressed by the level of rationality and reasonableness you've displayed. Have you ever considered a career in high level international diplomacy? |
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Post by Prometheus on Nov 9, 2020 13:54:41 GMT
SIYL!!! Well, that was fun... a 9 hour internet outage. Anyway, I'm truly delighted and impressed by the level of rationality and reasonableness you've displayed. Have you ever considered a career in high level international diplomacy? Actually... yes. That's why I learned how to speak French, Spanish, and Russian so many years ago.
But life happened....
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Post by ant-mac on Nov 9, 2020 18:19:50 GMT
Well, that was fun... a 9 hour internet outage. Anyway, I'm truly delighted and impressed by the level of rationality and reasonableness you've displayed. Have you ever considered a career in high level international diplomacy? Actually... yes. That's why I learned how to speak French, Spanish, and Russian so many years ago.
But life happened....
It has a nasty habit of doing that. |
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Post by abbey1227 on Nov 9, 2020 23:46:19 GMT
I doubt the "old white guy" will last 2 years. Imagine how pissy the right is going to get when a black woman is POTUS.
I'd be fine with a black transgender muslim president if their political opinions more closely matched mine than the lot of politicians that have been elected in recent years.
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Post by ant-mac on Nov 10, 2020 0:06:58 GMT
I'd be fine with a black transgender muslim president if their political opinions more closely matched mine than the lot of politicians that have been elected in recent years.
The trouble is there's never one around when you need them.  |
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Post by Prometheus on Nov 10, 2020 1:32:12 GMT
I'd be fine with a black transgender muslim president if their political opinions more closely matched mine than the lot of politicians that have been elected in recent years.
I hear ya!
But until people are willing to think through an issue, rather than just jerk their knees, political opinions are just going to keep moving further away from the point where a solution lies. There are so many people who live their lives with psychological stress brought on by cognitive dissonance, that it's a wonder the country can function at all.
What's worse is that so many people go out of their way to avoid facts simply so they can go on living with stress.
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Post by Prometheus on Nov 10, 2020 1:33:00 GMT
Actually... yes. That's why I learned how to speak French, Spanish, and Russian so many years ago.
But life happened....
It has a nasty habit of doing that. All the time and for no good reason. |
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Post by abbey1227 on Nov 10, 2020 3:28:32 GMT
I hear ya!
But until people are willing to think through an issue, rather than just jerk their knees, political opinions are just going to keep moving further away from the point where a solution lies. There are so many people who live their lives with psychological stress brought on by cognitive dissonance, that it's a wonder the country can function at all.
What's worse is that so many people go out of their way to avoid facts simply so they can go on living with stress.
Maybe it's my view that relying on govt so much is the problem? I know I'm in the minority with that.
But I don't see how so many people can function at all waiting for their govt to provide everything they want.
But I could be just avoiding their facts...........while my opinions simply provide me with a highly functioning household and very little stress.
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Post by Prometheus on Nov 10, 2020 4:06:14 GMT
I hear ya!
But until people are willing to think through an issue, rather than just jerk their knees, political opinions are just going to keep moving further away from the point where a solution lies. There are so many people who live their lives with psychological stress brought on by cognitive dissonance, that it's a wonder the country can function at all.
What's worse is that so many people go out of their way to avoid facts simply so they can go on living with stress.
Maybe it's my view that relying on govt so much is the problem? I know I'm in the minority with that.
But I don't see how so many people can function at all waiting for their govt to provide everything they want.
But I could be just avoiding their facts...........while my opinions simply provide me with a highly functioning household and very little stress.
No offense, Abs, but is your household "highly functioning" because of your opinions or because of the support your missus brings to the table?
I don't know all the "whyto's and wherefo's" but I get the impression from past conversations that the missus makes the most money. She has the insurance. Etc.
I think insurance might be a nice place to start to explain things.
Health care causes you little or no stress because it has been provided for you by a social collective being managed by a large corporation (two things which you dislike, IIRC) with the premiums paid for by another party.
Single payer UHC would eliminate one of the things you don't like: the insurance companies, while reducing out of pocket expenses even more, and possibly netting increased take-home pay to the household.
It's not socialism because the government would not own the means of production (leastways not any more than they already do) and there's a possibility that our government expenses might be lowered while our GDP increases. Most economists think that's a good thing.
Of course, not only will the insurance companies be mad about it, but so won't those communist microcosms known as trade unions, because they will have lost a bargaining chip and recruiting tool.
If you dislike corporations and unions, and you want to see the American economy get stronger, single payer UHC is probably something that you would want, especially since it will reduce the stress of others out there who make life outside your household stressful, and the extra money you'll probably have in your pocket can be used for more stress relief.
Giving the government the responsibility to pay our medical bills would also fuel medical research, since the government would want to find better ways to reduce payouts. It would force the government to do better with enforcing safety regulations. It might even lead to mandatory vacation time like so many other 1st world countries enjoy.
Those all seem like good things to me.
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