Good Pay Is Out There

[abbey1227]

Fox News
Illegal immigrants in Texas bail from vehicle during traffic stop, video shows
Chris Pandolfo      Tue, November 22, 2022 at 11:25 AM

Dashcam footage shows the moment five illegal immigrants bailed out of a vehicle and fled onto rancher property during a traffic stop in southern Texas.

The Texas Department of Public Safety said that on Friday, a DPS trooper stopped a white Toyota SUV for a traffic violation on Farm to Market Road 133 in La Salle County.

Before the stop, the vehicle's driver pulled over and came to a rest near a ranch fence, DPS said.

Video shows five individuals bailing out of the vehicle and fleeing into the brush.

Authorities said the driver, identified as 20-year-old Angelina Charles of Carrizo Springs, also attempted to flee the vehicle by sliding over the passenger seat. She admitted to being paid $3,200 per person to smuggle people over the U.S.-Mexico border, DPS said

Charles was arrested and charged with smuggling of persons.

The five illegal immigrants who fled the vehicle were not apprehended and "absconded onto a ranch property," DPS said.

Charles also had an outstanding warrant out of Dimmit County for assault, DPS said.

www.yahoo.com/news/illegal-immigrants-texas-bail-vehicle-172507650.html

comments:

14 hours ago
How long before they end up in $120/night government funded hotels and roomservice is covered.

14 hours ago
But hey, there's no open border problems down here. Nope not at all. Abbott better hurry and put boots at the border.

15 hours ago
the world is in a real fix thanks to the democrats and the people who voted for them.

14 hours ago
I hope human trafficking sentences are as long as those for drug trafficking, but I doubt it

14 hours ago
15k for a ride. No wonder we have 20 million undocumented personnel in the country.

13 hours ago
What, Vice President Kamala Harris has been telling the American People since 20 January 2021 that the U.S. Border is Safe and Secure of course each time She gives this Speech Her Nose grows two to three inches !

12 hours ago
Crimes committed without sufficient punish defeat the purpose of prosecution. We prosecute crimes to extract retribution from the criminal and to deter both the criminal and others from committing future crimes. 5 years in prison should do it.

14 hours ago
Does anyone ever question why they cannot have a "better life" in their homeland?

15 hours ago
This is exactly what Biden wanted

14 hours ago
She admitted to being paid $3,200 per person to smuggle people over the U.S.-Mexico border, DPS said

16k for that run. Easy to see why they did it. unreal the money being paid out.

15 hours ago
Joey Biden, the gift that keeps on giving

15 hours ago
Future democrats.

15 hours ago
Let’s go Brandon!


10 hours ago
The more government money the migrants get the better. Every young democrat voter should be watching because this is their social security and their own sovereignty at risk. I realize they're more concerned about tik tok popularity than their own finances as inflation soars and mortgage rates more than double since the Trump administration. They've essentially voted for their own future poverty, they'll see in time. Should be fun to watch.

14 hours ago
How can these poor illegals pay that kind of money to a smuggler? I thought they were poor and in danger of violence. Oh I see now, all that noise is just ca ca just like I suspected all along.

15 hours ago
Hit her hard! 20 years.

9 hours ago
Again, the Democrats are not trying to stop people from illegally crossing the border

These people need to be vetted.

Of course the Democrats only care about votes. Not our safety.

14 hours ago
So this isn't a problem to Dems huh. People getting paid to smuggle illegals into US. Illegals just crossing over no Paperwork, ID, nothing.

14 hours ago
Keep in mind a weak boarder, unprotected and unrestricted will bring chaos.

[Prometheus]

It's interesting how Trumpanzees think.

Let me help you think more clearly:

If the border is "open" as you claim, then why did these people need to be smuggled in?

Why is it the Dems' fault when Texas is - and so many other border states are - so "red"?

Shouldn't there just be a single streaming line of immigrants marching from TJ straight into San Diego according to your theory?

Why isn't there?

And why are so many of you mental midgets so quick to defend the businesses that hire illegals while condemning the illegals themselves? Shut off the money valve and they'll stop coming.

[merh]

My cousin did some time for smuggling people.
Not long.
Back in the 80s so Reagan/Bush.

But blame democrats!

I would get people sometimes.
$3000 is a lot.
Most of mine were offered hundreds of dollars.
The Americans go to TJ to party & people apparently randomly come up offering them cash to do it. Pass it off as easy money.

[abbey1227]

Nov 24, 2022 0:14:28 GMT merh said:

My cousin did some time for smuggling people.
Not long.
Back in the 80s so Reagan/Bush.

But blame democrats!

I would get people sometimes.
$3000 is a lot.
Most of mine were offered hundreds of dollars.
The Americans go to TJ to party & people apparently randomly come up offering them cash to do it. Pass it off as easy money.

I'm gonna guess the mules get paid up front in $Cash

Those smuggled end up having to do work of some sort to pay it all back..........and then some

Ain't slavery grande?

[Prometheus]

Nov 24, 2022 2:21:49 GMT abbey1227 said:

Nov 24, 2022 0:14:28 GMT merh said:

My cousin did some time for smuggling people.
Not long.
Back in the 80s so Reagan/Bush.

But blame democrats!

I would get people sometimes.
$3000 is a lot.
Most of mine were offered hundreds of dollars.
The Americans go to TJ to party & people apparently randomly come up offering them cash to do it. Pass it off as easy money.

I'm gonna guess the mules get paid up front in $Cash

Those smuggled end up having to do work of some sort to pay it all back..........and then some

Ain't slavery grande?

And YOU are angry at the slaves.

Ain't racism grande?

[merh]

Nov 24, 2022 2:21:49 GMT abbey1227 said:

Nov 24, 2022 0:14:28 GMT merh said:

My cousin did some time for smuggling people.
Not long.
Back in the 80s so Reagan/Bush.

But blame democrats!

I would get people sometimes.
$3000 is a lot.
Most of mine were offered hundreds of dollars.
The Americans go to TJ to party & people apparently randomly come up offering them cash to do it. Pass it off as easy money.

I'm gonna guess the mules get paid up front in $Cash

Those smuggled end up having to do work of some sort to pay it all back..........and then some

Ain't slavery grande?

Jesus, you are stuck on that word.

Try fall guys.

The Americans are offered "easy money" so the coyotes don't get captured.

[abbey1227]

Nov 24, 2022 6:06:02 GMT merh said:

Jesus, you are stuck on that word.

Try fall guys.

The Americans are offered "easy money" so the coyotes don't get captured.

mules? coyotes? smugglers? banditos? Pick one you like.  Then be sure to check out the movies Sicario 1 & 2

meh, nobody is really being punished anymore anyway, so what's the big risk exactly? Christ, she'll probably be nominated for a DREAMER award

[permutojoe]

Capitalism: turning waitresses into quasi-sex workers for over 100 years.

[abbey1227]

Nov 24, 2022 14:18:10 GMT permutojoe said:

Capitalism: turning waitresses into quasi-sex workers for over 100 years.

and former sex workers into waitresses for a bit less time

[permutojoe]

Nov 24, 2022 14:29:00 GMT abbey1227 said:

Nov 24, 2022 14:18:10 GMT permutojoe said:

Capitalism: turning waitresses into quasi-sex workers for over 100 years. [img src="//storage.proboards.com/7182076/images/cyzFsBHrVkBoG0tz0OzZ.gif" alt="" class="smile"]

and former sex workers into waitresses for a bit less time

Woops. Thought I posted this one on the pigtail thread. 😒

[merh]

Nov 24, 2022 13:49:16 GMT abbey1227 said:

Nov 24, 2022 6:06:02 GMT merh said:

Jesus, you are stuck on that word.

Try fall guys.

The Americans are offered "easy money" so the coyotes don't get captured.

mules? coyotes? smugglers? banditos? Pick one you like.  Then be sure to check out the movies Sicario 1 & 2

meh, nobody is really being punished anymore anyway, so what's the big risk exactly? Christ, she'll probably be nominated for a DREAMER award

Director Denis Villeneuve said the film was indeed conceived at the height of the violence in Juárez in 2010. According to Sebastian Rotella, an American foreign correspondent and investigative journalist, Sicario examines many aspects of the U.S. War on Drugs against, most generally, drug cartels in Mexico, Central, and South America. He noted that the illegal drug trafficking situation in Mexico has remained largely stagnant in the two decades prior to the film's release and that the film asserts that the American War on Drugs is "turning us into the very monsters we are trying to defeat." Rotella asserted that progress has been made in Mexico, and expressed qualms over the depiction of the film's extralegal "black ops campaign", relative to his experience that most U.S. operations resulted in the legal arrest and prosecution of drug lords.

You want me to watch fiction?
Why?

[abbey1227]

Nov 24, 2022 20:20:22 GMT merh said:

Nov 24, 2022 13:49:16 GMT abbey1227 said:

mules? coyotes? smugglers? banditos? Pick one you like.  Then be sure to check out the movies Sicario 1 & 2

meh, nobody is really being punished anymore anyway, so what's the big risk exactly? Christ, she'll probably be nominated for a DREAMER award

Director Denis Villeneuve said the film was indeed conceived at the height of the violence in Juárez in 2010. According to Sebastian Rotella, an American foreign correspondent and investigative journalist, Sicario examines many aspects of the U.S. War on Drugs against, most generally, drug cartels in Mexico, Central, and South America. He noted that the illegal drug trafficking situation in Mexico has remained largely stagnant in the two decades prior to the film's release and that the film asserts that the American War on Drugs is "turning us into the very monsters we are trying to defeat." Rotella asserted that progress has been made in Mexico, and expressed qualms over the depiction of the film's extralegal "black ops campaign", relative to his experience that most U.S. operations resulted in the legal arrest and prosecution of drug lords.

You want me to watch fiction?
Why?

Because it's interesting, brutal and based on some very real situations.

You think the guy invented it all?

[merh]

Nov 25, 2022 1:51:50 GMT abbey1227 said:

Nov 24, 2022 20:20:22 GMT merh said:

You want me to watch fiction?
Why?

Because it's interesting, brutal and based on some very real situations.

You think the guy invented it all?

I saw the first movie when it hit HBO around 2016
Didn't care for it.
Sorry.

It is fiction 



"A lot of this actually happened"

[abbey1227]

Nov 25, 2022 3:34:47 GMT merh said:

Nov 25, 2022 1:51:50 GMT abbey1227 said:

Because it's interesting, brutal and based on some very real situations.

You think the guy invented it all?

I saw the first movie when it hit HBO around 2016
Didn't care for it.
Sorry.

It is fiction 



"A lot of this actually happened"

are you suggesting a lot of the stuff in the Sicarios never happens? 

[merh]

Nov 25, 2022 12:47:33 GMT abbey1227 said:

Nov 25, 2022 3:34:47 GMT merh said:

I saw the first movie when it hit HBO around 2016
Didn't care for it.
Sorry.

It is fiction 



"A lot of this actually happened"

are you suggesting a lot of the stuff in the Sicarios never happens? 

I'm saying a lot of historical dramas are more drama than history.

Why would your movies be different?

[abbey1227]

Nov 25, 2022 20:09:47 GMT merh said:

Nov 25, 2022 12:47:33 GMT abbey1227 said:

are you suggesting a lot of the stuff in the Sicarios never happens? 

I'm saying a lot of historical dramas are more drama than history.

Why would your movies be different?

Even the supposed 'based on' stuff adds in a bit of drama.........like The Crown series I've been watching.

But the crime, drugs, trafficking..........and involvement of Govt agencies in and around the border? I have little doubt they weren't making stuff up out of thin air. Sorta like how the series Law & Order just slightly alters actual news stories to write their episodes.

WI headline just today.........

Three arrested in Dodge County for drugs tied to Mexican cartels

[merh]

Nov 26, 2022 2:20:36 GMT abbey1227 said:

Nov 25, 2022 20:09:47 GMT merh said:

I'm saying a lot of historical dramas are more drama than history.

Why would your movies be different?

Even the supposed 'based on' stuff adds in a bit of drama.........like The Crown series I've been watching.

But the crime, drugs, trafficking..........and involvement of Govt agencies in and around the border? I have little doubt they weren't making stuff up out of thin air. Sorta like how the series Law & Order just slightly alters actual news stories to write their episodes.

WI headline just today.........

Three arrested in Dodge County for drugs tied to Mexican cartels

Three people arrested in a drug bust in Dodge County are believed to have direct ties to drug cartels from Mexico.

Deputies say they seized 4.1 pounds of meth, 2.1 pounds of marijuana and $51,907 in cash.

Damn.

Trucker arrested in record-breaking drug seizure at Otay Mesa border crossing
by: Brittney Donovan

Posted: Nov 24, 2021 / 11:43 AM PST

SAN DIEGO — A trucker from Mexico was arrested last week after trying to smuggle record-breaking amounts of methamphetamine and fentanyl into the U.S., according to federal prosecutors.

The bust happened at the Otay Mesa Port of Entry in San Diego last Thursday, when border officers found more than 17,500 pounds of meth and 389 pounds of fentanyl inside a tractor-trailer.

San Diego Police, Customs and DEA Agents Seize 50,000 Fentanyl-Laced Pills in Bust
The bust is another headline in a week full of news involving the deadly synthetic drug in San Diego
By Rafael Avitabile • Published June 30, 2022 • 

San Diego ERs seeing up to 37 marijuana cases a day — mostly psychosis
By Leighton Woodhouse
October 22, 2022 8:02am Updated
Meg and Scott knew something was going on with their son Kyle when, during the pandemic, he began refusing to get out of bed to attend class online.

Up until then, Kyle had been like a dream son: tall, good-looking, strong, athletic, with a great sense of humor. He was such a good baseball player that talent scouts were checking him out, and had a decent chance of someday playing in the Major League.

“He had the world by the balls,” his dad said. (At the family’s request, The Post has used pseudonyms.)

Now, Kyle was constantly irritable and depressed and wanted to drop out of his New Jersey high school. Then, one night, he lost it completely, fantasizing that his parents wanted to kill him.

“Zero touch with reality,” Scott recalled. The family checked Kyle into a psychiatric facility, where his delusions got worse. He thought his dad ran the mafia and had put Joe Biden in office. He demanded that his parents give him $10 million.

Meg and Scott were sure their son was messed up on some hardcore drug. But when the institution ran a drug test, Kyle came up positive only for his prescribed Attention Deficit Disorder medication and for THC — that is, marijuana.

Absent regulations on THC, legal marijuana products are leading to more medical emergencies — namely, psychosis — and even death.
With no regulations on THC, legalized marijuana products are reportedly leading to more medical emergencies.

Laura Stack's son Johnny was driven into acute psychosis after years of high-concentrate THC usage. Believing his dorm room was bugged and that he was being followed, Johnny jumped to his death at 19 years old.

Kyle’s now in recovery, but his is a story that is becoming familiar to more and more American families. Someone begins showing classic signs of hardcore drug addiction. Eventually, they suffer a full psychotic break. But the only drug history is for cannabis.

“We’re now counting 37 cannabis-related diagnoses a day,” Dr. Roneet Lev, an addiction medicine doctor at Scripps Mercy Hospital in San Diego, said about emergency departments in San Diego County. “It’s been steadily increasing over the years. When I started in the 1990s, there was no such thing. Now I see 1 to 2 cases per shift. The most common symptom is psychosis.”

“We probably see 20 THC-induced psychoses for every amphetamine-induced psychosis,” said Ben Cort, who runs a drug and alcohol treatment center in Colorado. One study showed an increase of 24% in cases of psychoses in emergency departments in Colorado in the five years following marijuana’s legalization in that state in 2012.

Since then, legal marijuana has been transformed into a potent and unrecognizable product.

“When I speak at parent nights at schools, most adults still think it’s like the weed we smoked when we were teens in the ’80s, [which had] between 3 to 5% THC per gram of flower,” said Laura Stack, an advocate against cannabis abuse in Colorado. “We never had today’s high-potency concentrates, vapes or edibles.”

Laura’s son Johnny was driven into acute psychosis by years of high concentrate THC usage. He believed his dorm room was bugged and that the mob was after him.

Johnny killed himself in 2019 at the age of 19 by jumping off a six-story building. “There are no caps on potency,” said Stack. “They’re cultivating higher and higher concentrates of THC. You literally can’t buy what you could get in the ’80s and ’90s; marijuana that mild isn’t around anymore.”

THC (Tetrahydrocannabinol) is the psychoactive chemical, or cannabinoid, that causes both the euphoria and the paranoia that tends to accompany marijuana highs. The strongest marijuana flower you can buy is in the range of 25% THC.

The edibles that are sold in dispensaries are created by chemically stripping the THC from the marijuana plant and creating a concentrated THC “wax” that’s typically three times that level. These products also lack CBD, a chemical in natural marijuana that partially counteracts the THC. Even more potent than edibles are “dabs,” a form of THC that users smoke out of vape pens, which can be over 90% THC. At this level of potency, THC can trigger severe symptoms of psychosis in regular users, studies and addiction experts say.

“Now that THC is a more readily available drug and the perception of harm is at the lowest point in recorded history, we treat more people for THC disorder than for opiate disorder right now,” said Cort. “I’d say about half of our census is THC. And the vast majority of them have THC-induced psychosis.”

“One clinical study showed that a moderate dose of pure THC causes psychotic symptoms in about 40% of people who lack a family history of psychosis. If you’re a casual user and your dosage is mild, that likely just means a touch of paranoia,” said neuroscientist Christine Miller, an expert on psychotic disorders.

Thirty-five percent of people who have experienced such symptoms, however, will go on to experience a full psychotic break, according to another study, if they continue their high risk environmental exposure by continuing to use cannabis.

According to multiple studies, for those who have ever suffered a full cannabis-induced psychotic break, the chance that, if you still keep using, you’ll eventually develop permanent schizophrenia is almost 50 percent. That’s a higher conversion rate than amphetamines, opioids or LSD.

But what really makes THC more dangerous than those other drugs, experts say, is that so few people consider it dangerous at all. “We know fentanyl is bad. We know meth is bad,” said Dr. Libby Stuyt, a recently retired addiction psychiatrist in Colorado. “We don’t know that marijuana is bad.”

THC concentrates are highly physically addictive, experts add. “It is almost impossible for people to quit,” said Stuyt.

Dr. Lev says about daily cannabis-related diagnoses, "When I started in the 1990s, there was no such thing."

But because they’re produced from marijuana, many users assume that they’re as non-addictive as an old-fashioned marijuana joint is. According to a Rasmussen Reports poll, 57% of Americans do not believe that marijuana is dangerous.

Often cannabis users believe the THC products they consume are cures for the very symptoms that are generated by their withdrawal from the drug, such as anxiety and insomnia. “People think, ‘Oh, it’s my symptoms. That’s why I need it. I’m anxious and it’s treating my anxiety,’” said Stuyt. “No: It’s the withdrawal that’s causing your anxiety.”

“Because it’s allowed to be heavily marketed and advertised as ‘medicine,’ people believe it’s safe,” Stuyt continued “It’s the industry, they keep saying it’s not addicting, it doesn’t cause psychosis. This is no different from the tobacco companies when they were saying it doesn’t cause cancer, it’s non-addicting.”

The Dangerous Truth about Today's Marijuana by Laura Stack
Stack became an advocate after her son’s death.
Johnny's Ambassadors
Since marijuana has been legalized in 19 states and counting, a $13 billion industry has emerged around it that has marketed the drug as a remedy for everything from chronic pain to anxiety. The corporations that have invested most heavily in cannabis are the ones that know best how to market addictive products and manipulate public opinion into underestimating their risks: the tobacco, alcohol and pharmaceutical industries.

There are in fact only four cannabis-derived drugs that are FDA-approved: Epidiolex for seizures, Marinol and Syndros for nausea and anorexia, and Cesamet, also for nausea. They are available only by prescription, and none are sold over-the-counter at dispensaries. (Since marijuana is still a Schedule I drug, American scientists cannot legally research it. President Biden has announced plans to review that status; if the administration re-schedules it, researchers will be able to legally experiment with it and more medical applications could in time be revealed.)

Beyond those four prescription drugs, evidence for claims to the medicinal properties of marijuana are scientifically lacking.

“This is not medicine,” Stuyt said. “This high-potency THC has not been studied as medicine.”

According to Cort, Americans underestimate the risks of THC because they conflate it with the much less harmful marijuana of the pre-legalization years. “They’re not smoking weed,” said Cort. “What’s being consumed in these concentrates is devastating for their mental health.”

“The whole world is telling them it’s safe,” said Dr. Lev of cannabis users. “People are in unbelievable denial.”

[abbey1227]

Nov 26, 2022 21:11:21 GMT merh said:

Nov 26, 2022 2:20:36 GMT abbey1227 said:

Even the supposed 'based on' stuff adds in a bit of drama.........like The Crown series I've been watching.

But the crime, drugs, trafficking..........and involvement of Govt agencies in and around the border? I have little doubt they weren't making stuff up out of thin air. Sorta like how the series Law & Order just slightly alters actual news stories to write their episodes.

WI headline just today.........

Three arrested in Dodge County for drugs tied to Mexican cartels

Three people arrested in a drug bust in Dodge County are believed to have direct ties to drug cartels from Mexico.

Deputies say they seized 4.1 pounds of meth, 2.1 pounds of marijuana and $51,907 in cash.

Damn.

Trucker arrested in record-breaking drug seizure at Otay Mesa border crossing

I've made this observation before, but I think it's glaringly true.........the typical American is more comfortable around their local drug dealer than their local cop.

And that pretty much says it all where their priorities are at.

[merh]

Nov 27, 2022 2:20:01 GMT abbey1227 said:

Nov 26, 2022 21:11:21 GMT merh said:

Damn.

I've made this observation before, but I think it's glaringly true.........the typical American is more comfortable around their local drug dealer than their local cop.

And that pretty much says it all where their priorities are at.

It's the same argument as the prostitute issue & the illegal immigrants.

We see all the talk about fentanyl overdoses, yet people are buying the stuff.

Would Mexico have the problem with the cartels if Americans weren't buying the drugs?

Drugs bad, but Americans have that rebellious "You're not the boss of me" attitude & a huge hedonistic streak so here we are.

[abbey1227]

Nov 27, 2022 15:25:40 GMT merh said:

Nov 27, 2022 2:20:01 GMT abbey1227 said:

I've made this observation before, but I think it's glaringly true.........the typical American is more comfortable around their local drug dealer than their local cop.

And that pretty much says it all where their priorities are at.

It's the same argument as the prostitute issue & the illegal immigrants.

We see all the talk about fentanyl overdoses, yet people are buying the stuff.

Would Mexico have the problem with the cartels if Americans weren't buying the drugs?

Drugs bad, but Americans have that rebellious "You're not the boss of me" attitude & a huge hedonistic streak so here we are.

great point. I wish they'd cease providing the NARCAN, though

Well, we're not the only drug users.........but we do spend a lot

We also have this totally self-destructive enabling attitude here