Democrats Faith in MSM Has Been Restored

[Nightman]

Apr 13, 2021 3:32:48 GMT Prometheus said:

Apr 12, 2021 15:14:52 GMT Nightman said:

Civilization is just a bunch of people living in somewhat close proximity to one another. At least, that's what I learned.

Public school?

noun
1. an advanced state of human society, in which a high level of culture, science, industry, and government has been reached.

2. those people or nations that have reached such a state.

That's just Dictionary.com.

While you might be able to offer an argument about "science and industry" reaching a "high level," I think you'd be hard-pressed to make the same argument for "culture"... unless you have a very low bar for what "high" means.

As for government... the people get what they are willing to put up with or they change it. You want to count all the revolutions, civil wars, or "internal struggles" around the world from the past 300 years? 200? Last week?

Maybe you'd like to talk chickens and eggs substituting "culture" and "government"?

Just look at "cancel culture." It's little more than intellectual fascism: "Think and act as we do or it's off to the ghetto with you!"

Do you think that is advancing civilization in any way?

Not entirely sure what the point is. Some form of civilization will always be around, no matter what level of technological goodies are available.

[Prometheus]

Apr 13, 2021 9:14:56 GMT Nightman said:

Apr 13, 2021 3:32:48 GMT Prometheus said:

Public school?

That's just Dictionary.com.

While you might be able to offer an argument about "science and industry" reaching a "high level," I think you'd be hard-pressed to make the same argument for "culture"... unless you have a very low bar for what "high" means.

As for government... the people get what they are willing to put up with or they change it. You want to count all the revolutions, civil wars, or "internal struggles" around the world from the past 300 years? 200? Last week?

Maybe you'd like to talk chickens and eggs substituting "culture" and "government"?

Just look at "cancel culture." It's little more than intellectual fascism: "Think and act as we do or it's off to the ghetto with you!"

Do you think that is advancing civilization in any way?

Not entirely sure what the point is. Some form of civilization will always be around, no matter what level of technological goodies are available.

I thought the point was clear: civilization (culture and government) is on a downward slide back towards tribalism... and a lot of it is due to the "technological goodies."

[Nightman]

Apr 13, 2021 9:23:46 GMT Prometheus said:

Apr 13, 2021 9:14:56 GMT Nightman said:

Not entirely sure what the point is. Some form of civilization will always be around, no matter what level of technological goodies are available.

I thought the point was clear: civilization (culture and government) is on a downward slide back towards tribalism... and a lot of it is due to the "technological goodies."

Most of the world's civilizations have never actually left tribalism on some level. Even the ones that seem more advanced are tribal af, they are just more subtle. The only thing technology has done is connect the tribes by ideology or likes than by geography.

[Prometheus]

Apr 13, 2021 14:24:27 GMT Nightman said:

Apr 13, 2021 9:23:46 GMT Prometheus said:

I thought the point was clear: civilization (culture and government) is on a downward slide back towards tribalism... and a lot of it is due to the "technological goodies."

Most of the world's civilizations have never actually left tribalism on some level. Even the ones that seem more advanced are tribal af, they are just more subtle. The only thing technology has done is connect the tribes by ideology or likes than by geography.

Interesting point.

Maybe it's just the veneer of subtlety that's slipping....