Did Oz really say that shit?

[merh]

abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/nancy-pelosis-husband-violently-assaulted-san-francisco-home/story?id=92280229

[Prometheus]

Oct 31, 2022 21:27:29 GMT abbey1227 said:

Oct 31, 2022 14:38:21 GMT merh said:

Not killed by cops.

Dont need that bad press 

Werent past the initial "freeze!"
The door opens 
The scene is 2 men struggling 
They yell freeze.
Law abiding citizen obeys
Criminal doesn't
Victim is not clear so they can't take the shot.

Why do you want them to shoot the victim?
Or you think they're the sharpshooters like in the movies?

...

and got I called a liar for doing so.

By whom?

[Prometheus]

Oct 31, 2022 22:57:03 GMT merh said:

abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/nancy-pelosis-husband-violently-assaulted-san-francisco-home/story?id=92280229

"In the last two months, DePape has posted dozens of articles and videos to his blogs spreading conspiracies and hateful rhetoric related to COVID-19, women, Hillary Clinton, the Jewish community, federal law enforcement (e.g., FBI), government censorship, Russia's invasion of Ukraine, the climate crisis, QAnon, the 2020 election, the transgender community, and 'grooming' in schools," the ISD said, though no posts were found specifically mentioning Nancy Pelosi.

 Does that sound like anyone we know?

[merh]

[merh]

[merh]

Paul Pelosi attack: David DePape was on 'suicide mission' during alleged attack, targeted other politicians
Adam Sabes
Tue, November 1, 2022 at 5:01 PM

David DePape, the suspect accused of violently attacking Paul Pelosi, the husband of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, was on a "suicide mission" when he allegedly carried out the attack, according to court documents.

Court documents filed on Tuesday state that DePape, 42, plotted to target other federal and California elected officials.

DePape faces multiple felony charges after he allegedly broke into the Pelosi residence in San Francisco on Oct. 28 and beat Paul Pelosi with a hammer, resulting in injuries that forced the House speaker's husband to undergo surgery to repair a skull fracture in addition to other injuries.

In the court filing, San Francisco District Attorney Brooke Jenkins wrote that DePape's intent with the attack "could not have been clearer."

"He forced his way into the Pelosi home intending to take the person third in line to the presidency of the United States hostage and to seriously harm her. Thwarted by Speaker Pelosi’s absence, Defendant continued on his quest and would not be stopped, culminating on the near fatal attack on Mr. Pelosi," Jenkins wrote in the filing.

DePape, according to the filing, told police officers that he was sick of the "lies coming out of Washington D.C."

"I didn’t really want to hurt him, but you know this was a suicide mission. I’m not going to stand here and do nothing even if it cost me my life," the filing said.

Jenkins wrote in the filing that "This case demands detention" and "nothing less."

A criminal complaint filed by the San Francisco District Attorney's Office states that DePape has been "convicted of other crimes."

According to a federal affidavit filed on Monday, DePape told police that he intended to hold Speaker Pelosi hostage and interrogate her.

"If Nancy were to tell DePape the ‘truth,’ he would let her go, and if she ‘lied,’ he was going to break ‘her kneecaps,’" the affidavit states.

"DePape also later explained that by breaking Nancy’s kneecaps, she would then have to be wheeled into Congress, which would show other members of Congress that there were consequences to actions," according to the court document.

Paul Pelosi, the husband of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, was severely beaten by an attacker who broke into their San Francisco home in the early morning of Friday, October 28th, 2022. Paul Pelosi, 82, was taken to the hospital and is being treated by doctors for injuries after he was beaten with a hammer

DePape pleaded not guilty to state-level charges, which include attempted murder, residential burglary, assault with a deadly weapon and elder abuse, among others.

He is accused of breaking into the Pelosi's residence through the rear of the house and entered the bedroom where Paul Pelosi was sleeping, according to Jenkins.

Paul Pelosi attempted to dial 911 in the residence's in-home elevator, but was blocked from doing so by DePape, according to Jenkins, adding that Paul Pelosi was able to escape to a bathroom within the house and dial 911.

When police officers arrived at the residence, they saw both Paul Pelosi and DePape struggling over a hammer, San Francisco Police Chief William Scott said. When given an order to drop the hammer, DePape began attacking Paul Pelosi, Scott said.

The suspect allegedly demanded to talk to "Nancy" during the attack, referring to the House Speaker, according to an affidavit.

Judge Diane Northway said in a Tuesday court hearing that a police report filed in relation to the incident states that "The assault occurred in the presence of two uniformed police officers."

Adam Lipson, the San Francisco Deputy Public Defender representing DePape said in a statement that "Mr. DePape is entitled to a vigorous legal defense, and we intend to give him one."

An Immigrations and Customers Enforcement source told Fox News that DePape has been in the U.S. illegally after overstaying his visa by a "long time."

In the area of DePape's former residence, which was inside a Richmond, California, garage, neighbors described the suspect as being quiet and isolated. One neighbor said that he wasn't surprised about DePape's alleged actions.

"I also was, a little bit, saying, ‘Oh no’ to myself, because I more or less knew this would happen," Jin Molnar said. "He didn't do anything violent or reckless, but that would be the perfect cover for buying his time until he had the chance to do something."

"He was an odd guy," Molnar said, adding that DePape was "gravitating towards the new right talking points."

A court document states that officers found "two hammers, a sword, and a pair of rubber and cloth gloves" when executing a search warrant on DePape's garage residence.

DePape previously lived with his former partner, nudist activist Gypsy Taub, who he raised two sons and daughter with in a Berkeley home, according to ABC7.

Taub told ABC7 in a phone interview that she is DePape's "ex-life partner," and described him as "mentally ill."

"He is mentally ill. He has been mentally ill for a long time," Taub said, stating that she met DePape around 20 years ago.

Taub is currently in prison after being found guilty in the abduction of a 14-year-old boy which took place around a Berkeley high school.

Taub said that DePape once left home for a year only to return "in very bad shape."

"He came back in very bad shape. He thought he was Jesus. He was constantly paranoid, thinking people were after him," Taub said. "And it took a good year or two to get back to, you know, being halfway normal."

She said that DePape had very similar politics to her, which are "very progressive."

"Well when I met him, he was only 20 years old, and he didn't have any experience in politics, and he was very much in alignment with my views, and I've always been very progressive. I absolutely admire Nancy Pelosi," Taub said.

FBI agents went to the Berkeley home on Friday, and a young man said that DePape hasn't been at the residence in years

So his ex hasn't seen him in awhile & she's progressive.

A neighbor who has said he has been gravitating right.

[abbey1227]

Nov 2, 2022 2:58:30 GMT merh said:

Paul Pelosi attack: David DePape was on 'suicide mission' during alleged attack, targeted other politicians
Adam Sabes
Tue, November 1, 2022 at 5:01 PM

David DePape, the suspect accused of violently attacking Paul Pelosi, the husband of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, was on a "suicide mission" when he allegedly carried out the attack, according to court documents.

Court documents filed on Tuesday state that DePape, 42, plotted to target other federal and California elected officials.

DePape faces multiple felony charges after he allegedly broke into the Pelosi residence in San Francisco on Oct. 28 and beat Paul Pelosi with a hammer, resulting in injuries that forced the House speaker's husband to undergo surgery to repair a skull fracture in addition to other injuries.

In the court filing, San Francisco District Attorney Brooke Jenkins wrote that DePape's intent with the attack "could not have been clearer."

"He forced his way into the Pelosi home intending to take the person third in line to the presidency of the United States hostage and to seriously harm her. Thwarted by Speaker Pelosi’s absence, Defendant continued on his quest and would not be stopped, culminating on the near fatal attack on Mr. Pelosi," Jenkins wrote in the filing.

DePape, according to the filing, told police officers that he was sick of the "lies coming out of Washington D.C."

"I didn’t really want to hurt him, but you know this was a suicide mission. I’m not going to stand here and do nothing even if it cost me my life," the filing said.

Jenkins wrote in the filing that "This case demands detention" and "nothing less."

A criminal complaint filed by the San Francisco District Attorney's Office states that DePape has been "convicted of other crimes."

According to a federal affidavit filed on Monday, DePape told police that he intended to hold Speaker Pelosi hostage and interrogate her.

"If Nancy were to tell DePape the ‘truth,’ he would let her go, and if she ‘lied,’ he was going to break ‘her kneecaps,’" the affidavit states.

"DePape also later explained that by breaking Nancy’s kneecaps, she would then have to be wheeled into Congress, which would show other members of Congress that there were consequences to actions," according to the court document.

Paul Pelosi, the husband of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, was severely beaten by an attacker who broke into their San Francisco home in the early morning of Friday, October 28th, 2022. Paul Pelosi, 82, was taken to the hospital and is being treated by doctors for injuries after he was beaten with a hammer

DePape pleaded not guilty to state-level charges, which include attempted murder, residential burglary, assault with a deadly weapon and elder abuse, among others.

He is accused of breaking into the Pelosi's residence through the rear of the house and entered the bedroom where Paul Pelosi was sleeping, according to Jenkins.

Paul Pelosi attempted to dial 911 in the residence's in-home elevator, but was blocked from doing so by DePape, according to Jenkins, adding that Paul Pelosi was able to escape to a bathroom within the house and dial 911.

When police officers arrived at the residence, they saw both Paul Pelosi and DePape struggling over a hammer, San Francisco Police Chief William Scott said. When given an order to drop the hammer, DePape began attacking Paul Pelosi, Scott said.

The suspect allegedly demanded to talk to "Nancy" during the attack, referring to the House Speaker, according to an affidavit.

Judge Diane Northway said in a Tuesday court hearing that a police report filed in relation to the incident states that "The assault occurred in the presence of two uniformed police officers."

Adam Lipson, the San Francisco Deputy Public Defender representing DePape said in a statement that "Mr. DePape is entitled to a vigorous legal defense, and we intend to give him one."

An Immigrations and Customers Enforcement source told Fox News that DePape has been in the U.S. illegally after overstaying his visa by a "long time."

In the area of DePape's former residence, which was inside a Richmond, California, garage, neighbors described the suspect as being quiet and isolated. One neighbor said that he wasn't surprised about DePape's alleged actions.

"I also was, a little bit, saying, ‘Oh no’ to myself, because I more or less knew this would happen," Jin Molnar said. "He didn't do anything violent or reckless, but that would be the perfect cover for buying his time until he had the chance to do something."

"He was an odd guy," Molnar said, adding that DePape was "gravitating towards the new right talking points."

A court document states that officers found "two hammers, a sword, and a pair of rubber and cloth gloves" when executing a search warrant on DePape's garage residence.

DePape previously lived with his former partner, nudist activist Gypsy Taub, who he raised two sons and daughter with in a Berkeley home, according to ABC7.

Taub told ABC7 in a phone interview that she is DePape's "ex-life partner," and described him as "mentally ill."

"He is mentally ill. He has been mentally ill for a long time," Taub said, stating that she met DePape around 20 years ago.

Taub is currently in prison after being found guilty in the abduction of a 14-year-old boy which took place around a Berkeley high school.

Taub said that DePape once left home for a year only to return "in very bad shape."

"He came back in very bad shape. He thought he was Jesus. He was constantly paranoid, thinking people were after him," Taub said. "And it took a good year or two to get back to, you know, being halfway normal."

She said that DePape had very similar politics to her, which are "very progressive."

"Well when I met him, he was only 20 years old, and he didn't have any experience in politics, and he was very much in alignment with my views, and I've always been very progressive. I absolutely admire Nancy Pelosi," Taub said.

FBI agents went to the Berkeley home on Friday, and a young man said that DePape hasn't been at the residence in years

So his ex hasn't seen him in awhile & she's progressive.

A neighbor who has said he has been gravitating right.

just another one who hasn't kept drifting to the left, huh?

[merh]

Nov 2, 2022 5:32:36 GMT abbey1227 said:

Nov 2, 2022 2:58:30 GMT merh said:

So his ex hasn't seen him in awhile & she's progressive.

A neighbor who has said he has been gravitating right.

just another one who hasn't kept drifting to the left, huh?

Isn't it common for people to be liberal when young & grow more conservative as they get older?

Old people voting Republican?

[abbey1227]

Nov 2, 2022 5:38:05 GMT merh said:

Nov 2, 2022 5:32:36 GMT abbey1227 said:

just another one who hasn't kept drifting to the left, huh?

Isn't it common for people to be liberal when young & grow more conservative as they get older?

Old people voting Republican?

That's the story anyway     It seems to make sense in a way for many. It's easy to be so easy going and carefree when you don't have any real skin in the game.

The part that gets me is how many remain (D) voters after they grow old. But then again, so many so called 'Conservatives' vote for more and more Govt handouts, too.......it's pretty much why so little ever changes, imo

[Prometheus]

Nov 2, 2022 5:52:55 GMT abbey1227 said:

Nov 2, 2022 5:38:05 GMT merh said:

Isn't it common for people to be liberal when young & grow more conservative as they get older?

Old people voting Republican?

That's the story anyway     It seems to make sense in a way for many. It's easy to be so easy going and carefree when you don't have any real skin in the game.

The part that gets me is how many remain (D) voters after they grow old. But then again, so many so called 'Conservatives' vote for more and more Govt handouts, too.......it's pretty much why so little ever changes, imo

Maybe if the government wasn't taking the advice of lobbyists and taking so much away from us, there'd no no need to ask that something be given back....

Just a thought....

[merh]

Nov 2, 2022 5:52:55 GMT abbey1227 said:

Nov 2, 2022 5:38:05 GMT merh said:

Isn't it common for people to be liberal when young & grow more conservative as they get older?

Old people voting Republican?

That's the story anyway     It seems to make sense in a way for many. It's easy to be so easy going and carefree when you don't have any real skin in the game.

The part that gets me is how many remain (D) voters after they grow old. But then again, so many so called 'Conservatives' vote for more and more Govt handouts, too.......it's pretty much why so little ever changes, imo

Some of us have different priorities 

[Prometheus]

Nov 4, 2022 0:37:25 GMT merh said:

Nov 2, 2022 5:52:55 GMT abbey1227 said:

That's the story anyway     It seems to make sense in a way for many. It's easy to be so easy going and carefree when you don't have any real skin in the game.

The part that gets me is how many remain (D) voters after they grow old. But then again, so many so called 'Conservatives' vote for more and more Govt handouts, too.......it's pretty much why so little ever changes, imo

Some of us have different priorities 

Abbey got his: we're talking about everything except for Dr. Oz's assertion (and the GOP position) that the government has a say in the reproductive rights of its citizens.

[abbey1227]

Nov 4, 2022 0:37:25 GMT merh said:

Nov 2, 2022 5:52:55 GMT abbey1227 said:

That's the story anyway     It seems to make sense in a way for many. It's easy to be so easy going and carefree when you don't have any real skin in the game.

The part that gets me is how many remain (D) voters after they grow old. But then again, so many so called 'Conservatives' vote for more and more Govt handouts, too.......it's pretty much why so little ever changes, imo

Some of us have different priorities 

Your priorities cost other people money.

[Prometheus]

Nov 4, 2022 1:24:30 GMT abbey1227 said:

Nov 4, 2022 0:37:25 GMT merh said:

Some of us have different priorities 

Your priorities cost other people money.

My priorities create more taxpayers in the long run....

[merh]

Nov 4, 2022 1:24:30 GMT abbey1227 said:

Nov 4, 2022 0:37:25 GMT merh said:

Some of us have different priorities 

Your priorities cost other people money.

Do you think the Social Security cut threats scared away GOP votes?

[merh]