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Post by Prometheus on Sept 18, 2022 23:09:19 GMT
I don't want a bunch of blather about who isn't an expert or what an expert isn't. I'd like to hear your definition. I think it would go a long way to helping us all have more meaningful conversations with you if we can all understand one another. The floor is yours.
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Post by ant-mac on Sept 19, 2022 2:35:40 GMT
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Post by abbey1227 on Sept 19, 2022 14:13:31 GMT
ex·pert
[ˈekˌspərt]
NOUN
a person who has a comprehensive and authoritative knowledge of or skill in a particular area:
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Awful lotta experts that may have a ton of degrees and book smarts......but no common sense.
Rain man was great at counting numbers.........he still needed to be cared for his entire life.
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Post by Prometheus on Sept 19, 2022 23:58:49 GMT
ex·pert[ˈekˌspərt] NOUN a person who has a comprehensive and authoritative knowledge of or skill in a particular area: ================================================= Awful lotta experts that may have a ton of degrees and book smarts......but no common sense. Rain man was great at counting numbers.........he still needed to be cared for his entire life. 1. It seems we can all agree on the dictionary definition. That's a plus.
2. So... if the world's greatest cardiologist jay walks, they are no longer the world's greatest cardiologist?
3. Rain Man was not an expert, Horace.
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Post by abbey1227 on Sept 20, 2022 3:15:39 GMT
ex·pert[ˈekˌspərt] NOUN a person who has a comprehensive and authoritative knowledge of or skill in a particular area: ================================================= Awful lotta experts that may have a ton of degrees and book smarts......but no common sense. Rain man was great at counting numbers.........he still needed to be cared for his entire life. 1. It seems we can all agree on the dictionary definition. That's a plus.
2. So... if the world's greatest cardiologist jay walks, they are no longer the world's greatest cardiologist?
3. Rain Man was not an expert, Horace.
2. No, of course not. But they may end up being a former cardiologist.
3. When it came to dates, counting and numbers, I'd say he had an authoritative skill in that area.
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Post by Prometheus on Sept 20, 2022 3:48:22 GMT
1. It seems we can all agree on the dictionary definition. That's a plus.
2. So... if the world's greatest cardiologist jay walks, they are no longer the world's greatest cardiologist?
3. Rain Man was not an expert, Horace.
2. No, of course not. But they may end up being a former cardiologist.
3. When it came to dates, counting and numbers, I'd say he had an authoritative skill in that area.
2. Then why do you dismiss experts so quickly?
3. But he didn't actually have any understanding of his skill or how to use it advantageously. I wouldn't call him at expert.
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Post by abbey1227 on Sept 20, 2022 4:13:17 GMT
2. No, of course not. But they may end up being a former cardiologist.
3. When it came to dates, counting and numbers, I'd say he had an authoritative skill in that area.
2. Then why do you dismiss experts so quickly?
3. But he didn't actually have any understanding of his skill or how to use it advantageously. I wouldn't call him at expert.
2. Because I've been watching DC consult with experts for decades ![[giveup]](//storage.proboards.com/7182076/images/FSYefibmKqtatIXMgHZg.gif)
3. Hence the age olde statement about common sense being rare. I've met a few very good college students/grads/ smart people with degrees...... but common sense-wise? ehhhh
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Post by Prometheus on Sept 20, 2022 4:23:51 GMT
2. Then why do you dismiss experts so quickly?
3. But he didn't actually have any understanding of his skill or how to use it advantageously. I wouldn't call him at expert.
2. Because I've been watching DC consult with experts for decades
3. Hence the age olde statement about common sense being rare. I've met a few very good college students/grads/ smart people with degrees...... but common sense-wise? ehhhh
2. I'm betting that you consult with experts on a fairly regular basis: doctors, nurses, physical therapists, dentists, investment brokers.
I think part of your problem (or angle) is that you confuse expertise with infallibility (when it suits your agenda)
3. Let me know when cancer can be cured by common sense rather than medical expertise. I'll be on that like white on rice.
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Post by abbey1227 on Sept 20, 2022 5:02:14 GMT
2. Because I've been watching DC consult with experts for decades
3. Hence the age olde statement about common sense being rare. I've met a few very good college students/grads/ smart people with degrees...... but common sense-wise? ehhhh
2. I'm betting that you consult with experts on a fairly regular basis: doctors, nurses, physical therapists, dentists, investment brokers.
I think part of your problem (or angle) is that you confuse expertise with infallibility (when it suits your agenda)
3. Let me know when cancer can be cured by common sense rather than medical expertise. I'll be on that like white on rice.
2. When I've seen the Detroit Lions fail to reach the Superbowl for 5 decades, I think I'm safe to assume they do not really know what they're doing. When I use a similar approach to Govt Programs......... you wanna argue intentions over results.
3. No fears, my friend. Biden & Co are all over that, too. And don't you think it's time to ban that phrase, too?  |
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Post by Prometheus on Sept 20, 2022 5:40:13 GMT
2. I'm betting that you consult with experts on a fairly regular basis: doctors, nurses, physical therapists, dentists, investment brokers.
I think part of your problem (or angle) is that you confuse expertise with infallibility (when it suits your agenda)
3. Let me know when cancer can be cured by common sense rather than medical expertise. I'll be on that like white on rice.
2. When I've seen the Detroit Lions fail to reach the Superbowl for 5 decades, I think I'm safe to assume they do not really know what they're doing. When I use a similar approach to Govt Programs......... you wanna argue intentions over results.
3. No fears, my friend. Biden & Co are all over that, too. And don't you think it's time to ban that phrase, too? 2. So... the Lions lost as opposed to their opponents winning? I'm pretty sure every one of those athletes knows their sport waaaaaay better than you... which makes them experts.
Using a similar approach to government might be fallacious if you are comparing apples to oranges... which is what you usually do
3. I was unaware that Biden was an oncologist... which makes me think you are making yet another fallacious argument.
Also, your jab about "white on rice" just goes to show how much of a racist you are.
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Post by abbey1227 on Sept 20, 2022 7:29:31 GMT
2. When I've seen the Detroit Lions fail to reach the Superbowl for 5 decades, I think I'm safe to assume they do not really know what they're doing. When I use a similar approach to Govt Programs......... you wanna argue intentions over results.
3. No fears, my friend. Biden & Co are all over that, too. And don't you think it's time to ban that phrase, too? 2. So... the Lions lost as opposed to their opponents winning? I'm pretty sure every one of those athletes knows their sport waaaaaay better than you... which makes them experts.
Using a similar approach to government might be fallacious if you are comparing apples to oranges... which is what you usually do
3. I was unaware that Biden was an oncologist... which makes me think you are making yet another fallacious argument.
Also, your jab about "white on rice" just goes to show how much of a racist you are.
2. Judging by their decisions and playing.........that's up for serious debate.
Apples and oranges are both fruits. Most likely picked in the US by Illegals. So it's all up for discussion.
3. Were you unaware of his political promise to cure it? Just as they've pledged to cure poverty, crime, fix education, etc etc etc
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Post by Prometheus on Sept 20, 2022 8:37:18 GMT
2. So... the Lions lost as opposed to their opponents winning? I'm pretty sure every one of those athletes knows their sport waaaaaay better than you... which makes them experts.
Using a similar approach to government might be fallacious if you are comparing apples to oranges... which is what you usually do
3. I was unaware that Biden was an oncologist... which makes me think you are making yet another fallacious argument.
Also, your jab about "white on rice" just goes to show how much of a racist you are.
2. Judging by their decisions and playing.........that's up for serious debate.
Apples and oranges are both fruits. Most likely picked in the US by Illegals. So it's all up for discussion.
3. Were you unaware of his political promise to cure it? Just as they've pledged to cure poverty, crime, fix education, etc etc etc
2. Again, you are confusing expertise with infallibility. Saying the same wrong thing over and over again will not magically make it true... except in the minds of Trumpanzees who still think that Donnie won.
3. Yes. I'm unaware of any such promise. Maybe you could link to it?
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Post by abbey1227 on Sept 20, 2022 8:42:03 GMT
2. Again, you are confusing expertise with infallibility. Saying the same wrong thing over and over again will not magically make it true... except in the minds of Trumpanzees who still think that Donnie won.
3. Yes. I'm unaware of any such promise. Maybe you could link to it?
2. Meanwhile doing the same things over and over again and failing is a clear sign you've chosen the wrong cure.
3. News
Biden Promises to 'Cure Cancer' If Elected. Here's Why That's Laughable.
By Isobel Whitcomb
published June 14, 2019
He's got just over 2 years to go. ![[wave]](//storage.proboards.com/7182076/images/SX0EdxtUBBeoTFbXqGuN.gif) |
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Post by Prometheus on Sept 20, 2022 8:51:58 GMT
2. Again, you are confusing expertise with infallibility. Saying the same wrong thing over and over again will not magically make it true... except in the minds of Trumpanzees who still think that Donnie won.
3. Yes. I'm unaware of any such promise. Maybe you could link to it?
2. Meanwhile doing the same things over and over again and failing is a clear sign you've chosen the wrong cure.
3. News
Biden Promises to 'Cure Cancer' If Elected. Here's Why That's Laughable.
By Isobel Whitcomb
published June 14, 2019
He's got just over 2 years to go. 2. I suppose that depends on how many different ways the opposition can think of to fuck shit up
3. Here's hoping Grandpa Sniffy can make good on that one... but he has to hurry. I don't have two years.
BTW. Are you under the misguided notion that I am a Biden supporter or even give a fuck about him?
Again, being anti-Trump doesn't mean being pro-Biden.
If you ever manage to grow a second brain cell, you might be able to comprehend that. But you keep on being stupid and I'll keep on pointing it out.
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Post by abbey1227 on Sept 20, 2022 8:57:04 GMT
2. I suppose that depends on how many different ways the opposition can think of to fuck shit up
3. Here's hoping Grandpa Sniffy can make good on that one... but he has to hurry. I don't have two years.
BTW. Are you under the misguided notion that I am a Biden supporter or even give a fuck about him?
Again, being anti-Trump doesn't mean being pro-Biden.
If you ever manage to grow a second brain cell, you might be able to comprehend that. But you keep on being stupid and I'll keep on pointing it out.
2. So one side good, one side bad. Got it
3. No, but you do definitely lean one way much more than the other.
In some ways being anti-Trump is being pro-Establishment. That much is clear. I look forward to the next NIH experiment on the world population.
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Post by Prometheus on Sept 20, 2022 9:03:01 GMT
2. I suppose that depends on how many different ways the opposition can think of to fuck shit up
3. Here's hoping Grandpa Sniffy can make good on that one... but he has to hurry. I don't have two years.
BTW. Are you under the misguided notion that I am a Biden supporter or even give a fuck about him?
Again, being anti-Trump doesn't mean being pro-Biden.
If you ever manage to grow a second brain cell, you might be able to comprehend that. But you keep on being stupid and I'll keep on pointing it out.
2. So one side good, one side bad. Got it
3. No, but you do definitely lean one way much more than the other.
In some ways being anti-Trump is being pro-Establishment. That much is clear. I look forward to the next NIH experiment on the world population.
2. Yup. The side that wants a level playing field is good and the people that try to fuck up that goal are bad.
3. Yes. I lean Classical Liberal
4. Who are the members of this "establishment" you speak of? Would it be career politicians and the business interests that court and bribe them?
You should read The Art of the Deal and see how much Donnie relied on his political influence. Donnie was no "outsider."
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Post by abbey1227 on Sept 20, 2022 9:07:41 GMT
You should read The Art of the Deal and see how much Donnie relied on his political influence. Donnie was no "outsider."
No doubt.........I'm sure he learned how best to get along and bribe your way thru NY City's political landscape.
Sorta makes you wonder why the DC group was so against him then, right? Was he for upsetting that playing field you mentioned? |
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Post by Prometheus on Sept 20, 2022 22:24:31 GMT
You should read The Art of the Deal and see how much Donnie relied on his political influence. Donnie was no "outsider."
No doubt.........I'm sure he learned how best to get along and bribe your way thru NY City's political landscape.
Sorta makes you wonder why the DC group was so against him then, right? Was he for upsetting that playing field you mentioned? They were against him for being brash, being a liar, and having no idea how to conduct international diplomacy.
And they were right to do so.
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Post by abbey1227 on Sept 21, 2022 1:06:49 GMT
No doubt.........I'm sure he learned how best to get along and bribe your way thru NY City's political landscape.
Sorta makes you wonder why the DC group was so against him then, right? Was he for upsetting that playing field you mentioned? They were against him for being brash, being a liar, and having no idea how to conduct international diplomacy.
And they were right to do so.
yeah, more 'experts' that have such wonderful track records. ![[rolleye1]](//storage.proboards.com/7182076/images/MTjbungPBOzv0BKQvdPJ.gif) |
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Post by Prometheus on Sept 21, 2022 3:56:31 GMT
They were against him for being brash, being a liar, and having no idea how to conduct international diplomacy.
And they were right to do so.
yeah, more 'experts' that have such wonderful track records. Yeah. Somehow, we had previously managed to not piss off our friends and were pretty successful at not pissing off our enemies more than they were already.
And for years we somehow managed to NOT be agents of an enemy power like Donald Ivanovich Trumpski and all of his "best comrades... ummmm... people."
I await your herpederp response
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