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[abbey1227]

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'Our Father' on Netflix: Where Is Donald Cline and All Your Questions Answered
What happened after the events on Netflix's chilling documentary?

Meara Isenberg     May 22, 2022 4:38 p.m. PT

Our Father is unmissable. The horrifying documentary focuses on Donald Cline, a fertility doctor who secretly used his own sperm to inseminate dozens of patients in Indianapolis in the '70s and '80s and how his actions upended the lives of his biological children.

www.cnet.com/culture/entertainment/our-father-on-netflix-where-is-donald-cline-and-all-your-questions-answered/

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Now I can totally see how upset the parents would be and feel this doctor should have been punished criminally.......... but I'm not sure I understand the trauma of the offspring that claim they lost their identity or don't even know who they are? 

[Prometheus]

Was the donor sperm supposed to be from the mother's partner or just from a chosen in the first place?

I always thought the idea of random donors was a bit iffy due to the possibility of unintentional incest....

[abbey1227]

Jun 15, 2022 10:06:15 GMT Prometheus said:

Was the donor sperm supposed to be from the mother's partner or just from a chosen in the first place?

I always thought the idea of random donors was a bit iffy due to the possibility of unintentional incest....

The bit I've seen so far........it was either supposed to be the husband of the patient.......or an anonymous donor under very strict controls. (Like no more than 3 kids per popper-offer)

Would you feel your identity was entirely lost if you discovered you'd been the product of such a transaction? I guess this clinging to family/tribe has always kinda mystified me.

[Prometheus]

Jun 15, 2022 10:16:19 GMT abbey1227 said:

Jun 15, 2022 10:06:15 GMT Prometheus said:

Was the donor sperm supposed to be from the mother's partner or just from a chosen in the first place?

I always thought the idea of random donors was a bit iffy due to the possibility of unintentional incest....

The bit I've seen so far........it was either supposed to be the husband of the patient.......or an anonymous donor under very strict controls. (Like no more than 3 kids per popper-offer)

Would you feel your identity was entirely lost if you discovered you'd been the product of such a transaction? I guess this clinging to family/tribe has always kinda mystified me.

The reason it mystifies you is because your family sounds like a bunch of scumbags and weirdos.

For the rest of the world, growing up thinking that the man you call, "dad" is your actual dad and then finding out that he isn't can be a bit traumatizing whether it's from a fuck up at the fertility clinic or from your mom being a slut.

I'm pretty sure it has to do with most people having... ummm... what are they called? Oh yeah. Feelings.

[abbey1227]

Jun 15, 2022 10:26:23 GMT Prometheus said:

The reason it mystifies you is because your family sounds like a bunch of scumbags and weirdos.

For the rest of the world, growing up thinking that the man you call, "dad" is your actual dad and then finding out that he isn't can be a bit traumatizing whether it's from a fuck up at the fertility clinic or from your mom being a slut.

I'm pretty sure it has to do with most people having... ummm... what are they called? Oh yeah. Feelings.

Well, not everyone had the luxury of a father being present. IIRC, you had the bad luck of your mother passing young.

I can see it for a child being disorientating..........but as an adult, wouldn't you STILL love and cherish the fella that raised you and looked after you? You'd of course be aware your genes may have come from elsewhere, so medically you might need some info handy.......but beyond that?

Mom being a slut decades ago makes a difference in who you are?

Excuse me for a moment......... (goes to Google 'feelings')

[Prometheus]

Jun 15, 2022 10:31:51 GMT abbey1227 said:

Jun 15, 2022 10:26:23 GMT Prometheus said:

The reason it mystifies you is because your family sounds like a bunch of scumbags and weirdos.

For the rest of the world, growing up thinking that the man you call, "dad" is your actual dad and then finding out that he isn't can be a bit traumatizing whether it's from a fuck up at the fertility clinic or from your mom being a slut.

I'm pretty sure it has to do with most people having... ummm... what are they called? Oh yeah. Feelings.

Well, not everyone had the luxury of a father being present. IIRC, you had the bad luck of your mother passing young.

I can see it for a child being disorientating..........but as an adult, wouldn't you STILL love and cherish the fella that raised you and looked after you? You'd of course be aware your genes may have come from elsewhere, so medically you might need some info handy.......but beyond that?

Mom being a slut decades ago makes a difference in who you are?

Excuse me for a moment......... (goes to Google 'feelings')

1. My dad wasn't the greatest dad in the world but he was mine.

2. Of course you still love the man who raised you... if he was worthy of love from the get-go, but finding out that who you are biologically has been based on a lie is going to bother adults as well. You'll figure it out after your googling.

3. "How do you know who your daddy is? Cuz your momma told you so."

[abbey1227]

Jun 15, 2022 10:38:58 GMT Prometheus said:

1. My dad wasn't the greatest dad in the world but he was mine.

2. Of course you still love the man who raised you... if he was worthy of love from the get-go, but finding out that who you are biologically has been based on a lie is going to bother adults as well. You'll figure it out after your googling.

3. "How do you know who your daddy is? Cuz your momma told you so."

I have observed and acknowledge how people do cling to that.......even when their parents were abusive.....or worse.

A friend of mine had mad skills in so many different areas.......but even into his 40s it was always "My Dad never cared enough to be interested in my accomplishments........so I just stopped trying." His Mom obsessed over him all that time, though.

I came from a family of 5 kids by 3 different fathers. My closest family was Grandmas with 16 kids by 1 father. So it's kinda like the 2 extremes as examples.

As I said, I can see kids being bothered........but as an adult, have you not developed your own self, skills and accomplishments? Things that are now yours to utilize. Nothing in the past can really take away your growth and accomplishments, right?

Papa was a rollin' stone....... Mama was a ho.