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Post by abbey1227 on Jun 8, 2022 12:24:27 GMT
Green Bay’s common council digs into report on city’s gun violence
By Joshua Peguero Published: Jun. 7, 2022
GREEN BAY, Wis. (WBAY) - The Green Bay Common Council was shown a report Tuesday night that paints a picture into the city’s gun violence and gives a profile of the suspects and victims.
City officials hope by doing this they can solve the root of the problem.
In conjunction with the Green Bay Police Department, the National Institute for Criminal Justice Reform analyzed gun crime statistics for over three years.
The report’s group stated that the city’s homicide rate is well below the national average, yet a majority of the violence is coming from certain groups.
“Every shooting we as a department we hold them accountable,” Commander Kevin Wayrch of Green Bay Police said at the meeting. “We respond to the crime, but then we take a more holistic approach to try to get in front of these people, so we can make some better life decisions together with them.”
According to the report, Green Bay experienced an increase in deadly shootings in 2020 with six homicides, but last year it decreased to two.
In the investigation using law enforcement data, the group found that in homicides and non-fatal shootings about 55% of the suspects and victims were black, although the city’s overall black population is just 4%.
The majority of the suspects and victims were also men between the ages of 18 to 34.
“I think a lot of times when we encounter these issues in cities, we make some assumptions that are certainly understandable,” Police Chief Chris Davis said. “But if we go based on those assumptions it may not actually solve our problem.”
Council members expressed that although gun violence is low compared to other cities, the incidents Green Bay has had have rattled residents.
“They want to get up in the morning and know their kids can go to school without being at risk. That they can go to grocery store without being at risk. And anything that we can do to make that happen, we have to do,” Alderperson Bill Galvin of District 4 said.
The report identified that Green Bay has 11 groups/gangs, and seven of them are the ones involved in shootings.
Alderperson Brian Johnson says the city has to recognize that systemic issues may be contributing to these crimes.
“One of the things that I don’t ever want our community to do is become desensitized to a growth in crime in our community and I think there are ways for us to be proactive in addressing that,” Johnson of District 9 said.
Overall, the city’s homicide rate is on-par or just below the state average.
There were several recommendations outlined in the report such as creating a gun violence reduction unit, which Green Bay Police say they have launched, and investing more in community-based services.
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Post by Prometheus on Jun 9, 2022 0:30:06 GMT
About 50% of all murders in the US are committed by black people (mostly in that same age group) year over year.
We've actually known this for decades and the response of law enforcement has generally been to perceive black people as a threat and therefore target. This extends to the people who make the laws, particularly white Republicans.
You can't lift a people up by criminalizing their existence.
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Post by abbey1227 on Jun 9, 2022 1:17:58 GMT
About 50% of all murders in the US are committed by black people (mostly in that same age group) year over year. We've actually known this for decades and the response of law enforcement has generally been to perceive black people as a threat and therefore target. This extends to the people who make the laws, particularly white Republicans.You can't lift a people up by criminalizing their existence.
But those stats go a very long way in explaining how and why things happen as they do.
Why are young black men seen as more of threat than old Asian women? or young white men even? Because it's a vicious cycle repeated time and again.
Who gets to break the cycle? Those committing the crimes? or those expected to enforce the law?
I get your sociological argument.......but that notion seems to fail in predominantly black communities run by mostly or all blacks for years and years, doesn't it? Even the police depts are primarily black......and yet, the same stats hold true. The police view the same dangers as valid.
And don't bother with the racist rebuttal as per usual. It's not about their skin color, imo. It's about outlook, environment and culture. All these decades and it's still not being solved by all the efforts of educated experts.
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Post by Prometheus on Jun 9, 2022 3:27:44 GMT
About 50% of all murders in the US are committed by black people (mostly in that same age group) year over year. We've actually known this for decades and the response of law enforcement has generally been to perceive black people as a threat and therefore target. This extends to the people who make the laws, particularly white Republicans.You can't lift a people up by criminalizing their existence.
But those stats go a very long way in explaining how and why things happen as they do.
Why are young black men seen as more of threat than old Asian women? or young white men even? Because it's a vicious cycle repeated time and again.
Who gets to break the cycle? Those committing the crimes? or those expected to enforce the law?
I get your sociological argument.......but that notion seems to fail in predominantly black communities run by mostly or all blacks for years and years, doesn't it? Even the police depts are primarily black......and yet, the same stats hold true. The police view the same dangers as valid.
And don't bother with the racist rebuttal as per usual. It's not about their skin color, imo. It's about outlook, environment and culture. All these decades and it's still not being solved by all the efforts of educated experts.
Just because an area is administered by a black person doesn't mean that the black person can just arbitrarily change laws. The LAWS are still the same and a lot of them are simply bad laws. YOU think we should get rid of bad laws don't you? |
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Post by abbey1227 on Jun 9, 2022 11:55:58 GMT
Just because an area is administered by a black person doesn't mean that the black person can just arbitrarily change laws. The LAWS are still the same and a lot of them are simply bad laws. YOU think we should get rid of bad laws don't you?
I gotta disagree with you there......... law changing doesn't even need to be a part of the equation anymore. They just refuse to enforce certain things now.
That's why a DA in Cali just got recalled.
Of course. I think a good majority of laws could be removed. Let's start with drugs being illegal........and releasing everyone that involved in a non-violent drug crime, like yesterday.
Not only would that finally match up with the reality of the majority of the US population's beliefs........ but it would even more importantly do away with one of the primary reasons we have so many gun crimes/shooting deaths in certain areas.
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Post by Prometheus on Jun 9, 2022 13:23:11 GMT
Just because an area is administered by a black person doesn't mean that the black person can just arbitrarily change laws. The LAWS are still the same and a lot of them are simply bad laws. YOU think we should get rid of bad laws don't you?
I gotta disagree with you there......... law changing doesn't even need to be a part of the equation anymore. They just refuse to enforce certain things now.
That's why a DA in Cali just got recalled.
Of course. I think a good majority of laws could be removed. Let's start with drugs being illegal........and releasing everyone that involved in a non-violent drug crime, like yesterday.
Not only would that finally match up with the reality of the majority of the US population's beliefs........ but it would even more importantly do away with one of the primary reasons we have so many gun crimes/shooting deaths in certain areas.
Recalled? So... the people want him to do his job and because he didn't they put an end to it? Doesn't really work for your argument, does it?
Also, is the DA black?
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Post by abbey1227 on Jun 9, 2022 13:44:20 GMT
I gotta disagree with you there......... law changing doesn't even need to be a part of the equation anymore. They just refuse to enforce certain things now.
That's why a DA in Cali just got recalled.
Of course. I think a good majority of laws could be removed. Let's start with drugs being illegal........and releasing everyone that involved in a non-violent drug crime, like yesterday.
Not only would that finally match up with the reality of the majority of the US population's beliefs........ but it would even more importantly do away with one of the primary reasons we have so many gun crimes/shooting deaths in certain areas.
Recalled? So... the people want him to do his job and because he didn't they put an end to it? Doesn't really work for your argument, does it?
Also, is the DA black?
Politics
San Francisco votes overwhelmingly to recall progressive DA Chesa BoudinBy Musadiq Bidar Updated on: June 8, 2022 / 11:37 AM / CBS News San Francisco residents voted overwhelmingly Tuesday to recall District Attorney Chesa Boudin, one of the nation's most progressive top prosecutors. Partial results from the San Francisco Department of Elections on Tuesday night showed the recall measure — also known as Proposition H — had the support of nearly 60% of voters, with 40% voting against it. Boudin sought to reform the criminal justice system, ending the use of cash bail, stopping the prosecution of minors as adults, and focused on lowering jail populations amid the COVID-19 pandemic. Boudin also became the first San Francisco DA to file homicide charges against city police officers.
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This guy and quite a few others have made it clear their agenda is to ignore laws on the books and basically decriminalize many criminal acts. Hard to believe they actually bounced him out there.
He's white, IIRC. But there are several others that have shown these same tactics, like the female in Chicago and up in Portland or Seattle. Crime & punishment are antiquated ideas to them.
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Post by Prometheus on Jun 10, 2022 0:04:21 GMT
Recalled? So... the people want him to do his job and because he didn't they put an end to it? Doesn't really work for your argument, does it?
Also, is the DA black?
Politics
San Francisco votes overwhelmingly to recall progressive DA Chesa BoudinBy Musadiq Bidar Updated on: June 8, 2022 / 11:37 AM / CBS News San Francisco residents voted overwhelmingly Tuesday to recall District Attorney Chesa Boudin, one of the nation's most progressive top prosecutors. Partial results from the San Francisco Department of Elections on Tuesday night showed the recall measure — also known as Proposition H — had the support of nearly 60% of voters, with 40% voting against it. Boudin sought to reform the criminal justice system, ending the use of cash bail, stopping the prosecution of minors as adults, and focused on lowering jail populations amid the COVID-19 pandemic. Boudin also became the first San Francisco DA to file homicide charges against city police officers.
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This guy and quite a few others have made it clear their agenda is to ignore laws on the books and basically decriminalize many criminal acts. Hard to believe they actually bounced him out there.
He's white, IIRC. But there are several others that have shown these same tactics, like the female in Chicago and up in Portland or Seattle. Crime & punishment are antiquated ideas to them.
So... you have nothing to back up your original argument.
Got it.
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