Donnie's Hero, Vlad has started the war

[merh]

Aug 17, 2022 1:09:55 GMT abbey1227 said:

Aug 17, 2022 1:00:22 GMT merh said:

Dude, he's teflon.

Rape charges, etc.
Nothing sticks.

OR.............. there is another possibility. Now think about this...... he grew up in and around NYC.

He became pretty successful managing and building in that area. He became very familiar with how to navigate a place filled with govt and organized crime (same thing really)

So while you see the peaks and valleys, successes and bankruptcies as a sign of failure......... I see it as someone who learned how to dot all the i's and cross all the t's.......or at the very least make sure his accountants did.

As I've asked before........do you really think the average $Billionaire could have withstood such a barrage by the Govt at both state and federal levels? And come out like teflon? And how funny is it we were just talking about that with PFAS? 

That's because the Dems have used many of the same throwing shit at the wall tactics in the past......meanwhile they're usually more guilty themselves.

If we could make a bet right now........whether it's a presidential candidate or Supreme Court nominee on the Right........wanna wager on whether or not they get accused of sexual assault or shady business dealings, right now? And remember, it doesn't matter who that person might be in the future. We both know the accusations are already coming. 

Trump seems to have charisma, something I am suspicious of, remember?

Cohen spoke of how one wants to do things to make him happy.

Oooo.
You lose?

The former Democratic congressman T.J. Cox was charged with "15 counts of wire fraud, 11 counts of money laundering, one count of financial institution fraud, and one count of campaign contribution fraud."

TEXT:

The FBI arrested former one-term Democratic Rep. T.J. Cox on dozens of charges related to financial fraud, according to public records with the Fresno County Sheriff’s Office.

The arrest took place around 8:30 a.m. Tuesday at the federal courthouse in Fresno, Calif., according to the records. A statement from the Justice Department said the former congressman was charged with “15 counts of wire fraud, 11 counts of money laundering, one count of financial institution fraud, and one count of campaign contribution fraud.” 

If convicted in the 28-count indictment, Cox faces a maximum of 20 years in prison and a fine of $250,000 for wire fraud and money laundering, according to the Justice Department. Cox is expected to be arraigned at 5 p.m. EST on Tuesday and is currently in custody.

The federal indictment accuses Cox of using a cluster of business entities to enrich himself while saddling business partners with losses. The document describes a scheme in which Cox siphoned off money into secret accounts and used the proceeds to pay off his own debts, cover personal costs like private school tuition and fund his political ambitions. He allegedly fabricated a board meeting to secure loan funding and lied on a mortgage loan application.

In a statement, DOJ said the California Democrat allegedly participated in “multiple fraud schemes” over a number of years. Between 2013 and 2018, he allegedly obtained “over $1.7 million in diverted client payments and company loans and investments” through off-the-books bank accounts.

Some of the diverted money went toward Cox’s successful campaign for Congress, according to the federal government. The indictment describes Cox distributing $25,000 among relatives and business associates that they could then give to his campaign. Cox narrowly unseated then-Rep. David Valadao (R) in the battleground district before losing a rematch to Valadao in 2020.

According to the indictment, Cox sought to funnel money through allies in order to juice his standing in the race, since public opinion generally prefers donations “over the candidate’s personal loans or donations.”

“The purpose of emphasizing individual donations was to keep pace with competitors that received high numbers of private donations and to show viability of the candidacy through individual donations,” the indictment says.

The indictment further states Cox fraudulently obtained a $1.5 million construction loan to develop a recreation area in Fresno, Calif. by falsely representing it would be guaranteed. The loan later defaulted and prompted a loss of more than $1.28 million.

After narrowly losing his 2020 rematch with Valadao by about 1,500 votes, Cox mulled running again in 2022, but ultimately endorsed Rudy Salas (D) for the congressional seat.

Tax and payment issues dogged Cox throughout his time in Congress. The former lawmaker owed $145,000 in unpaid federal income tax in early 2020, prompting the Internal Revenue Service to place a lien on him and his wife.

Requests for comment from Cox, his former chief of staff and the Fresno County Sheriff’s Office were not immediately returned.

www.politico.com/news/2022/08/16/t-j-cox-arrested-fbi-california-00052191

  

[abbey1227]

Aug 17, 2022 2:02:11 GMT merh said:

<abbr data-timestamp="1660701731000" title="Aug 16, 2022 21:02:11 GMT -5" class="o-timestamp time">Aug 16, 2022 21:02:11 GMT -5</abbr> merh said:

Trump seems to have charisma, something I am suspicious of, remember?

Cohen spoke of how one wants to do things to make him happy.

Oooo.
You lose?

The arrest took place around 8:30 a.m. Tuesday at the federal courthouse in Fresno, Calif., according to the records. A statement from the Justice Department said the former congressman was charged with “15 counts of wire fraud, 11 counts of money laundering, one count of financial institution fraud, and one count of campaign contribution fraud.”&nbsp;

Obama had tons more charisma than Trump........but you didn't blast him.    You didn't question his motivations and hypocrisies. And they are plentiful.

I knew of him, but never followed his TV career. He does seem to be a surprisingly funny and warm guy in person........no matter what Hollywood tries to tell you now.

See that? He was taken into custody quietly in a courthouse, where his lawyers probably arranged for his surrender. No CNN crews? No early morning raids? No blind wife getting guns pointed at her?

how did I lose? The bet was how the next big GOP candidates would be treated in the media?

[merh]

Aug 17, 2022 2:12:15 GMT abbey1227 said:

Aug 17, 2022 2:02:11 GMT merh said:

<abbr data-timestamp="1660701731000" title="Aug 16, 2022 21:02:11 GMT -5" class="o-timestamp time">Aug 16, 2022 21:02:11 GMT -5</abbr> merh said:

Trump seems to have charisma, something I am suspicious of, remember?

Cohen spoke of how one wants to do things to make him happy.

Oooo.
You lose?

Obama had tons more charisma than Trump........but you didn't blast him.    You didn't question his motivations and hypocrisies. And they are plentiful.

I knew of him, but never followed his TV career. He does seem to be a surprisingly funny and warm guy in person........no matter what Hollywood tries to tell you now.

See that? He was taken into custody quietly in a courthouse, where his lawyers probably arranged for his surrender. No CNN crews? No early morning raids? No blind wife getting guns pointed at her?

how did I lose? The bet was how the next big GOP candidates would be treated in the media?

I have not heard of people speak like that of Obama.

This is more a Hitler like charisma. 
My sister's English teacher in 11th grade said her teacher played a speech by Hitler & though none in the class spoke German,  most were on their feet by the end cheering. 

Like Trump & his rallies.

That dude that lasted 5 seconds...Anthony Scaramucci.
He said similar as Cohen. That something about Trump made one want to do whatever to please him.

During the 2016 campaign, Trump promised to "drain the swamp" – a phrase that usually refers to entrenched corruption and lobbying in Washington, D.C. – and he proposed a series of ethics reforms. However, according to federal records and interviews, there has been a dramatic increase in lobbying by corporations and hired interests during Trump's tenure, particularly through the office of Vice-President Mike Pence. About twice as many lobbying firms contacted Pence, compared to previous presidencies, among them representatives of major energy firms and drug companies. In many cases, the lobbyists have charged their clients millions of dollars for access to the vice president, and then have turned around and donated the money to Pence's political causes.

Among the administration's first policies was a five-year ban on serving as a lobbyist after working in the executive branch. However, as one of his final acts of office, Trump rolled back that policy, thus allowing administration staff to work as lobbyists.

He sure drained that swamp.


You suggesting the Democrat didn't fight tooth & nail not to surrender? Refused to turn stuff in when ordered to?

[abbey1227]

Aug 17, 2022 4:21:48 GMT merh said:

I have not heard of people speak like that of Obama.

This is more a Hitler like charisma. 
My sister's English teacher in 11th grade said her teacher played a speech by Hitler & though none in the class spoke German,  most were on their feet by the end cheering. 

Like Trump & his rallies.

That dude that lasted 5 seconds...Anthony Scaramucci.
He said similar as Cohen. That something about Trump made one want to do whatever to please him.

He sure drained that swamp.

You suggesting the Democrat didn't fight tooth & nail not to surrender? Refused to turn stuff in when ordered to?

Then you weren't listening closely. They acted like he was the Messiah. Many still do.

Again, the narrative you're being fed. WHY do we all know Hitler so well? But Lenin or Stalin? or Mao? Not even close........and there's millions more dead by them. Couldn't be because the Left/MSM is okay with Marxism, could it?

Cheering Hitler? Odd. But he did whip up a crowd. Trump doesn't speak like Hitler, imo. He throws a ton more jokes out there. Was Hitler known for being funny?

So that tells me he ingratiates himself onto people and they feel better when he's around.....so they wanna do a good job for him. That's bad?

The Swamp is very, very deep and wide.

I'm suggesting that when a person is at least cooperating thru their lawyers, then there should be a level of civility. Not a SWAT team. But Roger Stone? Yeah, big time threat to the world in general. 

[merh]

Aug 17, 2022 10:20:41 GMT abbey1227 said:

Aug 17, 2022 4:21:48 GMT merh said:

I have not heard of people speak like that of Obama.

This is more a Hitler like charisma. 
My sister's English teacher in 11th grade said her teacher played a speech by Hitler & though none in the class spoke German,  most were on their feet by the end cheering. 

Like Trump & his rallies.

That dude that lasted 5 seconds...Anthony Scaramucci.
He said similar as Cohen. That something about Trump made one want to do whatever to please him.

He sure drained that swamp.

You suggesting the Democrat didn't fight tooth & nail not to surrender? Refused to turn stuff in when ordered to?

Then you weren't listening closely. They acted like he was the Messiah. Many still do.

Again, the narrative you're being fed. WHY do we all know Hitler so well? But Lenin or Stalin? or Mao? Not even close........and there's millions more dead by them. Couldn't be because the Left/MSM is okay with Marxism, could it?

Cheering Hitler? Odd. But he did whip up a crowd. Trump doesn't speak like Hitler, imo. He throws a ton more jokes out there. Was Hitler known for being funny?

So that tells me he ingratiates himself onto people and they feel better when he's around.....so they wanna do a good job for him. That's bad?

The Swamp is very, very deep and wide.

I'm suggesting that when a person is at least cooperating thru their lawyers, then there should be a level of civility. Not a SWAT team. But Roger Stone? Yeah, big time threat to the world in general. 

There is cooperating & there's dragging the heels.
Stone was dragging heels like Donnie

[merh]

Dan Rapoport was found dead in front of a luxury apartment building, with a Florida driver’s license, a stack of cash, and orange flip-flops. He also had been involved in highlighting the alleged corruption of Vladimir Putin and had ties to jailed Kremlin critic Alexei Navalny. Dan Rapoport’s widow has denied reports that he died by suicide.

TEXT:

An exiled investment banker who became a fierce critic of Vladimir Putin after leaving Russia has been found dead in Washington DC, police have confirmed.



Latvian-American Dan Rapoport, 52, was found in front of the upmarket 2400 M Apartment building in Georgetown shortly before 6pm on Sunday by officers responding to reports of a jumper, the Metropolitan Police Department (MPD) told The Independent in a statement.



Mr Rapoport was given first aid at the scene by ambulance staff and taken to hospital where he was later pronounced dead.


MPD spokesperson Brianna Burch said Mr Rapoport’s death remained under active investigation.



“We do not suspect foul play at this time,” she said.



A police report provided to The Independent showed Mr Rapoport had a cracked mobile phone, eye glasses, a Florida driver’s license and $2620 (£2,200) in cash on him when he died.


News of his death was revealed in a post on Telegram by the former editor of Russian Tatler magazine.



Yuniya Pugacheva claimed that Mr Rapoport’s dog was found in park near his Washington DC home with a suicide note and money.



However his widow Alena Rapoport has reportedly denied her husband took his own life.



She told Russian news service RBC that an investigation was underway into his death, and there were “no notes, no suicide”.



“To our great regret, the husband and father of our daughter is no longer with us,” she was quoted as telling RBC.


Ms Rapoport, a Ukrainian virologist, also refuted other claims made by Ms Pugacheva that she had split from her husband and he had been in London “in the company of young girls”.

After leaving Russia in 2012 over his support for pro-democracy activist Alexei Navalny, Mr Rapoport purchased a property in the Kalorama district of Washington DC.

He later sold the property to Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump when they moved to the US capital to take up senior adviser positions in Donald Trump’s administration in January 2017.



Mr Rapoport moved to Kyiv, Ukraine, after selling the property, where he met his wife Alena.



“Dan evacuated us from Kyiv and returned there himself to help my country,” Alena Rapoport reportedly told RBC. “Then we were supposed to meet in the USA.”



Bill Browder, a prominent Putin critic, wrote on Twitter that his death was “very upsetting news”.



“He was one of the first Moscow-based financiers I knew who publicly supported Alexei Navalny. RIP Dan.”

Mr Rapoport was born in Latvia when it was still part of the Soviet Union and in 1980 his family were granted political asylum in the US.



He studied at the University of Houston before moving to Russia in the 1990s to work in the finance and gas industries.

He co-owned a popular Moscow night club The Soho Rooms for a period.



Mr Rapoport left Russia in 2012 reportedly due to his support for Mr Navalny, who is serving a nine-year prison term after returning to his home country in January 2021.

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/russian-exile-death-washington-dc-dan-rapoport-b2146923.html

[abbey1227]

Aug 17, 2022 21:14:41 GMT merh said:

There is cooperating & there's dragging the heels.
Stone was dragging heels like Donnie

Was a warrant issued for his arrest? Was his lawyer given the opportunity to have him willingly surrender? I don't think so

[merh]

Aug 18, 2022 12:19:00 GMT abbey1227 said:

Aug 17, 2022 21:14:41 GMT merh said:

There is cooperating & there's dragging the heels.
Stone was dragging heels like Donnie

Was a warrant issued for his arrest? Was his lawyer given the opportunity to have him willingly surrender? I don't think so

You have a thing for criminal types, don't you?

During the campaign, Stone frequently promoted conspiracy theories, including the false claim that Clinton aide Huma Abedin was connected to the Muslim Brotherhood. In December 2018, as part of a defamation settlement, Stone agreed to retract a false claim he had made during the campaign: that Guo Wengui had donated to Hillary Clinton.

(CNN)The FBI's predawn Friday raid at the home of former consultant to the Trump campaign, Roger Stone, has come under unwarranted fire. Acting under the direction of the special counsel's office, the bureau was directed to safely apprehend Stone, and then carry out a search warrant for material items relevant to the ongoing investigation into potential ties between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin during the 2016 presidential election.

Sadly, Stone is attempting to spin a false narrative surrounding the raid. After his release on $250,000 bond, Stone charged that the raid had unnecessarily "terrorized" his wife and two dogs, and then in a later statement outside his Fort Lauderdale home, he doubled down, outrageously claiming the raid was executed with "a greater force than was used to take down bin Laden or El Chapo or Pablo Escobar."

edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/roger-stone-mueller-indictment/h_52

Law enforcement shined a flashlight into Stone’s front door before one officer wrapped against it, shouting “FBI! Open the door!”

The agent shouted “FBI. Warrant!” seconds later.

A second-floor light turned on, and moments later, Stone appeared in the front entryway.

He confirmed who he was to law enforcement.

[abbey1227]

Aug 18, 2022 16:04:40 GMT merh said:

Aug 18, 2022 12:19:00 GMT abbey1227 said:

Was a warrant issued for his arrest? Was his lawyer given the opportunity to have him willingly surrender? I don't think so

You have a thing for criminal types, don't you?

During the campaign, Stone frequently promoted conspiracy theories, including the false claim that Clinton aide Huma Abedin was connected to the Muslim Brotherhood. In December 2018, as part of a defamation settlement, Stone agreed to retract a false claim he had made during the campaign: that Guo Wengui had donated to Hillary Clinton.

(CNN)The FBI's predawn Friday raid at the home of former consultant to the Trump campaign, Roger Stone, has come under unwarranted fire. Acting under the direction of the special counsel's office, the bureau was directed to safely apprehend Stone, and then carry out a search warrant for material items relevant to the ongoing investigation into potential ties between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin during the 2016 presidential election.

Sadly, Stone is attempting to spin a false narrative surrounding the raid. After his release on $250,000 bond, Stone charged that the raid had unnecessarily "terrorized" his wife and two dogs, and then in a later statement outside his Fort Lauderdale home, he doubled down, outrageously claiming the raid was executed with "a greater force than was used to take down bin Laden or El Chapo or Pablo Escobar."

edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/roger-stone-mueller-indictment/h_52

Law enforcement shined a flashlight into Stone’s front door before one officer wrapped against it, shouting “FBI! Open the door!”

The agent shouted “FBI. Warrant!” seconds later.

A second-floor light turned on, and moments later, Stone appeared in the front entryway.

He confirmed who he was to law enforcement.

Merh............WTF does ANY of that have to do with the fact that the FBI knew the entire Russian Collusion was a hoax very early on...........and that they could have easily arrested Stone or served a warrant to search during REGULAR DAYLIGHT hours?

What was wit hthe SWAT? The early morning raid tactics? The CNN crew in tow? C'mon...........at least be honest enough to admit this was ALL for show.

If a person is cooperating, and has retained a lawyer........then you go thru the lawyer to make arrangements.

Hillary has NEVER been treated like that for all the complaining about Republican witch hunts. After she deleted emails and destroyed equipment? Nothing.

After Bill was implicated in the Epstein business? Nothing.

Please. It's clear we have a multi-tiered justice system here.......and the DoJ/FBI has a very obvious tilt to it these days. Fer chrissakes, Page/Strzok weren't even arrested

[merh]

Aug 18, 2022 16:21:18 GMT abbey1227 said:

Aug 18, 2022 16:04:40 GMT merh said:

You have a thing for criminal types, don't you?



edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/roger-stone-mueller-indictment/h_52

Merh............WTF does ANY of that have to do with the fact that the FBI knew the entire Russian Collusion was a hoax very early on...........and that they could have easily arrested Stone or served a warrant to search during REGULAR DAYLIGHT hours?

What was wit hthe SWAT? The early morning raid tactics? The CNN crew in tow? C'mon...........at least be honest enough to admit this was ALL for show.

If a person is cooperating, and has retained a lawyer........then you go thru the lawyer to make arrangements.

Hillary has NEVER been treated like that for all the complaining about Republican witch hunts. After she deleted emails and destroyed equipment? Nothing.

After Bill was implicated in the Epstein business? Nothing.

Please. It's clear we have a multi-tiered justice system here.......and the DoJ/FBI has a very obvious tilt to it these days. Fer chrissakes, Page/Strzok weren't even arrested

What did strzok do?
Think people wouldn't be stupid enough to vote trump in?

Trump wasn't buddies with Epstein?

Dude, 5am is the normal time to raid places.
Subjects tend to be home.

[abbey1227]

Aug 19, 2022 1:36:59 GMT merh said:

Aug 18, 2022 16:21:18 GMT abbey1227 said:

What did strzok do?
Think people wouldn't be stupid enough to vote trump in?

Trump wasn't buddies with Epstein?

Dude, 5am is the normal time to raid places.
Subjects tend to be home.

Strzok, Page, Andy and others met to discuss how they'd make sure he didn't remain president.    You miss those text exchanges?

Hillary and Barrack were that stupid, too  (mic drop)

He was seen in the company of Epstein many years ago (Maybe even longer ago than that Billy Bush audiotape?) but they had a falling out over something long before the run for president. I'm guessing Epstein revealed himself to be a sex trafficker and Trump told him to stay away. Unlike Bill Clinton who kept in touch for many, many private flights.

Dude, old people who are cooperating with their lawyers DON'T NEED to be raided. Unless they're associates of Trump, of course. They didn't even SWAT team that Dem that just got charged with multiple counts, did they? When are you going to just admit it's been very different treatment? Even 'war crimi9nals' Bush & Cheney haven't been treated like this.

[merh]

Aug 19, 2022 12:35:20 GMT abbey1227 said:

Aug 19, 2022 1:36:59 GMT merh said:

What did strzok do?
Think people wouldn't be stupid enough to vote trump in?

Trump wasn't buddies with Epstein?

Dude, 5am is the normal time to raid places.
Subjects tend to be home.

Strzok, Page, Andy and others met to discuss how they'd make sure he didn't remain president.    You miss those text exchanges?

Hillary and Barrack were that stupid, too  (mic drop)

He was seen in the company of Epstein many years ago (Maybe even longer ago than that Billy Bush audiotape?) but they had a falling out over something long before the run for president. I'm guessing Epstein revealed himself to be a sex trafficker and Trump told him to stay away. Unlike Bill Clinton who kept in touch for many, many private flights.

Dude, old people who are cooperating with their lawyers DON'T NEED to be raided. Unless they're associates of Trump, of course. They didn't even SWAT team that Dem that just got charged with multiple counts, did they? When are you going to just admit it's been very different treatment? Even 'war crimi9nals' Bush & Cheney haven't been treated like this.

Dude, my kid was worried.
I told my kid people couldn't be that stupid.

They were.
My kid was in tears election night.
I pointed out in California we would have a layer of protection from Trump. 

Why do you think it was anything more than reassuring his girlfriend?
If there was an actual plan to prevent Trump being president,  dont you think the girlfriend wouldn't be as worried?

The FBI was fucking Trumpland, remember?
They were actively against Hillary. 

Bombshell Report: "The FBI Is Trumpland" And Actively Trying To Manipulate The Election
This is what actual corruption looks like.
JUSTIN ROSARIO :NOV 4, 2016

The Guardian's Spencer Ackerman has dropped a bombshell about why the Federal Bureau of Investigation has suddenly become a central figure in the 2016 election and it should freeze the blood in your veins.

According to the reporting, the FBI has become a tool of the Trump campaign with the explicit goal of putting Trump into the White House:

Deep antipathy to Hillary Clinton exists within the FBI, multiple bureau sources have told the Guardian, spurring a rapid series of leaks damaging to her campaign just days before the election.

...

“The FBI is Trumpland,” said one current agent.

This is a giant red flag attached to an air raid siren sitting on top of a 200 foot long billboard that reads: "Danger! Danger, Will Robinson!" An integral part of the federal government is violating every political norm and tradition and law we rely on to sustain our democracy. We are now well past the first stages of fascism.


The currently serving FBI agent said Clinton is “the antichrist personified to a large swath of FBI personnel,” and that “the reason why they’re leaking is they’re pro-Trump.”

The agent called the bureau “Trumplandia”, with some colleagues openly discussing voting for a GOP nominee who has garnered unprecedented condemnation from the party’s national security wing and who has pledged to jail Clinton if elected.

There have been questions about how much damage Trump and his pretensions to dictatorship could possibly do if elected. This is America and our government officials would never go along with Trump's unconstitutional plans to ban Muslims, deport 11 million people or punish his enemies. "It can't happen here."

But this story puts the lie to that comforting fairy tale once and for all. If Ackerman's sources are to be believed, and there's every reason to do so, then there is already a dangerously large contingent of the government willing and eager to ignore the law to do Trump's bidding. And that's before "President" Trump has had the chance to further co-opt the Bureau. It's impossible to overstate the threat this poses to the country.

https:/2016/11/04/fbi-trumpland/


snopes.com/fact-check/bill-clinton-with-jeffrey-epstein/

Statement from 2019 it had been over a decade since Clinton associated with Epstein.

In 2002, Epstein hosted Clinton—as well as actors Kevin Spacey and Chris Tucker—on a 2002 tour of Africa associated with the Clinton Foundation. Epstein called Clinton "the world's greatest politician." In a 2002 New York magazine article in which President Donald Trump mentioned Epstein's predilection for girls "on the younger side," Clinton praised Epstein.

In 2015, the now-defunct pop-culture and news website Gawker released the flight logbooks for Epstein's Gulfstream and the Lolita Express 727. Clinton is listed as having taken at least 11 flights on the Lolita Express.

www.newsweek.com/bill-clinton-went-jeffrey-epsteins-island-2-young-girls-virginia-giuffre-says-1521845

Both Trump and Epstein were fixtures in New York and Palm Beach society circles.
The wealthy pair were fixtures of the 1980s and 1990s society scene. “In those days, if you didn’t know Trump and you didn’t know Epstein, you were a nobody,” famed attorney Alan Dershowitz, who’s served as a lawyer for both men, told The New York Times last year.

The same Times article told of a party the future president hosted at his Mar-a-Lago club in 1992. The guest list? Epstein, Trump, and 28 “calendar girl” competition contestants. Ten years later, Trump told New York Magazine that he’d known Epstein for 15 years. “Terrific guy,” said Trump. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.” Trump’s name appears on the flight log for Epstein’s plane, and Epstein’s brother claimed that Trump flew on the aircraft “numerous times”

When the allegations against Epstein became national news in 2019, Trump distanced himself from the convicted sex offender, saying that he “was not a fan” of the disgraced financier and eventually banned him from Mar-a-Lago.

And it does seem to be true that the two had a falling out in the years following that now-infamous New York Magazine quote. The Washington Post reported that in 2004 the two men each tried to buy the same Palm Beach mansion. Trump eventually won the auction, and later sold the home for more than twice the $41.35 million he spent on it. But the Post reported that the competition over the beachfront property spelled the end of Trump and Epstein’s friendship

In 2007, Epstein was indicted on sexual abuse charges that could have garnered him a life sentence. But instead, then-Miami US attorney Alexander Acosta cut Epstein a deal that found the financier of pleading guilty to soliciting prostitution from a minor in exchange for serving just 13 months in Palm Beach county jail. He was allowed to leave the jail for 12 hours a day almost every day of the week under a work release program that was supposed to exclude sex offenders.

“Acosta can talk until he's blue in the face about what they had and what they couldn't do,” Joe Berlinger, director of Netflix docuseries Jeffrey Epstein: Filthy Rich, told Esquire. “but it was an unprecedented, unheard of sweetheart deal.”

That deal would catch up with Acosta, who eventually became President Trump’s labor secretary, more than a decade later. Amid outrage over the leniency of the deal granted Epstein, Acosta stepped down from his cabinet position in 2019.

“He felt the constant drumbeat of press about a prosecution which took place under his watch more than 12 years ago was bad for the Administration, which he so strongly believes in,” tweeted Trump, “and he graciously tendered his resignation.”

www.esquire.com/entertainment/tv/a32784116/jeffrey-epstein-donald-trump-connection-friendship-explained/

So Donnie Was just as involved with Epstein as Clinton.

[abbey1227]

Aug 19, 2022 17:59:56 GMT merh said:

Dude, my kid was worried.
I told my kid people couldn't be that stupid.

They were.
My kid was in tears election night.
I pointed out in California we would have a layer of protection from Trump. 

Why do you think it was anything more than reassuring his girlfriend?
If there was an actual plan to prevent Trump being president,  dont you think the girlfriend wouldn't be as worried?

The FBI was fucking Trumpland, remember?
They were actively against Hillary. 

Bombshell Report: "The FBI Is Trumpland" And Actively Trying To Manipulate The Election
This is what actual corruption looks like.
JUSTIN ROSARIO :NOV 4, 2016

Statement from 2019 it had been over a decade since Clinton associated with Epstein.

In 2002, Epstein hosted Clinton—as well as actors Kevin Spacey and Chris Tucker—on a 2002 tour of Africa associated with the Clinton Foundation. Epstein called Clinton "the world's greatest politician." In a 2002 New York magazine article in which President Donald Trump mentioned Epstein's predilection for girls "on the younger side," Clinton praised Epstein.

In 2015, the now-defunct pop-culture and news website Gawker released the flight logbooks for Epstein's Gulfstream and the Lolita Express 727. Clinton is listed as having taken at least 11 flights on the Lolita Express.

www.newsweek.com/bill-clinton-went-jeffrey-epsteins-island-2-young-girls-virginia-giuffre-says-1521845

Both Trump and Epstein were fixtures in New York and Palm Beach society circles.

www.esquire.com/entertainment/tv/a32784116/jeffrey-epstein-donald-trump-connection-friendship-explained/

So Donnie Was just as involved with Epstein as Clinton.

I laughed at how worried people were over Trump.......because the same people encouraged the Govt be that big, strong and involved in their lives. Never thought the other party might get elected?  And here we are.......Biden is much more the fascist than Trump ever was..........like Obama before him.

One would think the police/FBI would lean to Trump instead of Biden..........but we're not talking beat cops, these are elitist intellectuals.  We've all seen how they lean the last few years. Comey, Wrey, Strzok? All cut from the same cloth.

So Trump dumpoed Epstein at least 12 years before that election.......and Bill flew MORE than 11 times, nice try media. It was in the high 20s at least. After 2004, do we even know?

What's so unusual about the wealthy in the same circles? It's what they do. I'm sure tons of Democrats sniffed around, smiled and had their photos taken with Donnie before 2016, too. Were they excommunicated? No, because it's all part of politics.

[merh]

Aug 20, 2022 2:16:33 GMT abbey1227 said:

Aug 19, 2022 17:59:56 GMT merh said:

Dude, my kid was worried.
I told my kid people couldn't be that stupid.

They were.
My kid was in tears election night.
I pointed out in California we would have a layer of protection from Trump. 

Why do you think it was anything more than reassuring his girlfriend?
If there was an actual plan to prevent Trump being president,  dont you think the girlfriend wouldn't be as worried?

The FBI was fucking Trumpland, remember?
They were actively against Hillary. 



Statement from 2019 it had been over a decade since Clinton associated with Epstein.
www.newsweek.com/bill-clinton-went-jeffrey-epsteins-island-2-young-girls-virginia-giuffre-says-1521845


www.esquire.com/entertainment/tv/a32784116/jeffrey-epstein-donald-trump-connection-friendship-explained/

So Donnie Was just as involved with Epstein as Clinton.

I laughed at how worried people were over Trump.......because the same people encouraged the Govt be that big, strong and involved in their lives. Never thought the other party might get elected?  And here we are.......Biden is much more the fascist than Trump ever was..........like Obama before him.

One would think the police/FBI would lean to Trump instead of Biden..........but we're not talking beat cops, these are elitist intellectuals.  We've all seen how they lean the last few years. Comey, Wrey, Strzok? All cut from the same cloth.

So Trump dumpoed Epstein at least 12 years before that election.......and Bill flew MORE than 11 times, nice try media. It was in the high 20s at least. After 2004, do we even know?

What's so unusual about the wealthy in the same circles? It's what they do. I'm sure tons of Democrats sniffed around, smiled and had their photos taken with Donnie before 2016, too. Were they excommunicated? No, because it's all part of politics.

And it does seem to be true that the two had a falling out in the years following that now-infamous New York Magazine quote. The Washington Post reported that in 2004 the two men each tried to buy the same Palm Beach mansion. Trump eventually won the auction, and later sold the home for more than twice the $41.35 million he spent on it. But the Post reported that the competition over the beachfront property spelled the end of Trump and Epstein’s friendship

So Trump & Epstein fell out over a real estate deal around 2004.
In 2019 it was stated Bill & Epstein lost contact at least a decade earlier so at least 2009  One suspects easily at least 2007 when Epstein got busted.

Yet president Donnie hired the dude who let Epstein do what he wanted while in custody,  go home 12 hrs a day, etc. Labor secretary 

[abbey1227]

Aug 20, 2022 23:50:40 GMT merh said:

So Trump & Epstein fell out over a real estate deal around 2004.
In 2019 it was stated Bill & Epstein lost contact at least a decade earlier so at least 2009  One suspects easily at least 2007 when Epstein got busted.

Yet president Donnie hired the dude who let Epstein do what he wanted while in custody,  go home 12 hrs a day, etc. Labor secretary

It doesn't seem plausible that Trump would stop hanging with another wealthy person over a bid on a property, does it? I'd guess that happened all the time with plenty of others.

And you're defending Bill, but not Trump. Meanwhile Clinton had the Secret Service and other agencies to look into Epstein to know what he may have been personally associating with, as opposed to just being seen at the same soirees. 

Donnie was clearly taking advice from Establishment GOP types. That's his fault.......but with hundreds, if not thousands, of posts to fill.........is it really that difficult to  explain? And notice, the MSM was right there to expose it all? As opposed to what Bill got up to? 11 flights? Everyone knows the number was more like 27 and they've got statements from young women, as well.

[merh]

Aug 21, 2022 1:01:13 GMT abbey1227 said:

Aug 20, 2022 23:50:40 GMT merh said:

So Trump & Epstein fell out over a real estate deal around 2004.
In 2019 it was stated Bill & Epstein lost contact at least a decade earlier so at least 2009  One suspects easily at least 2007 when Epstein got busted.

Yet president Donnie hired the dude who let Epstein do what he wanted while in custody,  go home 12 hrs a day, etc. Labor secretary

It doesn't seem plausible that Trump would stop hanging with another wealthy person over a bid on a property, does it? I'd guess that happened all the time with plenty of others.

And you're defending Bill, but not Trump. Meanwhile Clinton had the Secret Service and other agencies to look into Epstein to know what he may have been personally associating with, as opposed to just being seen at the same soirees. 

Donnie was clearly taking advice from Establishment GOP types. That's his fault.......but with hundreds, if not thousands, of posts to fill.........is it really that difficult to  explain? And notice, the MSM was right there to expose it all? As opposed to what Bill got up to? 11 flights? Everyone knows the number was more like 27 and they've got statements from young women, as well.

Good God, dude.
That number just keeps going up.
It was 20.
Now 27.
You're going to get it to 100.

Trump stated Epstein liked pretty girls on the YOUNG side so Donald knew.

You seriously think Donald gave a fuck about the age of the girls considering the age of the one Donald allegedly had relations with?

In 1992, Trump appeared on NBC News' show A Closer Look, hosted by Faith Daniels. During the show, Daniels said Trump (divorced at the time) agreed to make an appearance because: "You kissed me on the lips in front of the paparazzi, and I said, 'That'll cost you. I'm booking you on the show.'" Trump replied that the kiss was "so open and nice", and that he thought Daniels' husband "had his back turned at the time". Trump had invited NBC News to film a party he threw for himself and Jeffrey Epstein at Mar-a-Lago, where they joined various NFL cheerleaders; the kiss incident occurred there. NBC News revealed footage of the party in July 2019, showing Trump, Epstein and the cheerleaders. At one point during the video, Trump grabbed a woman around her waist, pulled her against his body, and patted her buttocks. At another point, Trump appears to tell Epstein: "Look at her, back there ... She's hot."

In a 1998 interview with Chris Matthews, two years before his 2000 presidential campaign, Trump said that his history with women could prove to be an issue in the event of a future presidental campaign, saying ""Can you imagine how controversial I'd be?...You think about (Bill Clinton) with the women. How about me with the women? Can you imagine?"

A 2002 article in New York magazine quoted Trump talking about Jeffrey Epstein: "I've known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it, Jeffrey enjoys his social life."[155] In 2008, Epstein plead guilty to charges involving child prostitution. In 2019, he was charged with child sex trafficking; he died in his cell before facing trial.

Trump owned the Miss Universe franchise, which includes Miss USA and Miss Teen USA, from 1996 to 2015. In a Howard Stern interview in 2005, he said he made a practice of walking into the contestants' dressing rooms unannounced while the women were undressed:

I'll go backstage before a show, and everyone's getting dressed and ready and everything else. ...You know, no men are anywhere. And I'm allowed to go in because I'm the owner of the pageant. And therefore I'm inspecting it. ... Is everyone OK? You know, they're standing there with no clothes. And you see these incredible-looking women. And so I sort of get away with things like that. But no, I've been very good.

In that interview, Trump declined to say whether he had slept with any contestants, saying, "It could be a conflict of interest". Stern then imitated a foreign contestant ("Mr. Trump, in my country, we say hello with vagina"), and Trump jokingly responded, "Well, you could also say, as the owner of the pageant, it's your obligation to do that."

Contestants of the shows have specifically alleged that Trump entered the dressing rooms while they were in various stages of undress in 1997, 2000, 2001, and 2006.

Mariah Billado, Victoria Hughes, and three other Miss Teen USA contestants (1997)

Mariah Billado, Miss Vermont Teen USA, is one of five women to mention such a dressing room visit incident in 1997. Billado said of the visit: "I remember putting on my dress really quick, because I was like, 'Oh my god, there's a man in here.' Trump, she recalled, said something like, 'Don't worry, ladies, I've seen it all before.'" Billado recalled talking to Ivanka, Trump's daughter, who responded "Yeah, he does that."

The secret service wasn't there to police Clinton’s friends outside of if they were threats to his life.

[abbey1227]

Aug 21, 2022 23:49:00 GMT merh said:

Good God, dude.That number just keeps going up.
It was 20.Now 27.You're going to get it to 100.

Trump stated Epstein liked pretty girls on the YOUNG side so Donald knew.

You seriously think Donald gave a fuck about the age of the girls considering the age of the one Donald allegedly had relations with?

Contestants of the shows have specifically alleged that Trump entered the dressing rooms while they were in various stages of undress in 1997, 2000, 2001, and 2006.

The secret service wasn't there to police Clinton’s friends outside of if they were threats to his life.

Ummmmm, No........the number I've heard for awhile now is in the higher 20s.     That's what I'll stick with. Bill even ditched his Secret Service on a few.

merh, Trump likes women on the young side. I like women on the young side. MOST straight males like women on the young side......at least compared to their own ages.

What was the age of the one he allegedly had relations with?

Contestants that change outfits often and compete in beauty pageants were put off by a guy seeing them slightly undressed? For real? Swimsuit competitions?

found this bit for you.........

Decades before he became president, Trump flew four times in 1993, once in 1994 and once in 1995, in addition to a flight in 1997 that had been documented in portions of the flight log previously released. The flights were all between Palm Beach and New York City airports, with the June 1994 flight stopping at Ronald Reagan Washington Washington National Airport between Palm Beach and New York.

A woman named Marla, apparently Trump’s then-wife Marla Maples, is listed as joining him on the June 1994 flight, along with a Tiffany, apparently their then-infant daughter, and a nanny. Trump’s son Eric is listed as joining him on an August 1995 flight between Palm Beach and New York.

That’s still fewer than former President Bill Clinton, who flew on Epstein’s jets on at least nine different dates according to the flight records released as evidence, and reportedly far more times than that. The extent of Clinton’s travel on Epstein flights was already reported, however.

www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2021/12/21/maxwell-case-shows-frequency-trump-clinton-flights-epstein-jets/8980818002/

[merh]

Aug 22, 2022 10:05:09 GMT abbey1227 said:

Aug 21, 2022 23:49:00 GMT merh said:

Good God, dude.That number just keeps going up.
It was 20.Now 27.You're going to get it to 100.

Trump stated Epstein liked pretty girls on the YOUNG side so Donald knew.

You seriously think Donald gave a fuck about the age of the girls considering the age of the one Donald allegedly had relations with?


The secret service wasn't there to police Clinton’s friends outside of if they were threats to his life.

Ummmmm, No........the number I've heard for awhile now is in the higher 20s.     That's what I'll stick with. Bill even ditched his Secret Service on a few.

merh, Trump likes women on the young side. I like women on the young side. MOST straight males like women on the young side......at least compared to their own ages.

What was the age of the one he allegedly had relations with?

Contestants that change outfits often and compete in beauty pageants were put off by a guy seeing them slightly undressed? For real? Swimsuit competitions?

found this bit for you.........

Decades before he became president, Trump flew four times in 1993, once in 1994 and once in 1995, in addition to a flight in 1997 that had been documented in portions of the flight log previously released. The flights were all between Palm Beach and New York City airports, with the June 1994 flight stopping at Ronald Reagan Washington Washington National Airport between Palm Beach and New York.

A woman named Marla, apparently Trump’s then-wife Marla Maples, is listed as joining him on the June 1994 flight, along with a Tiffany, apparently their then-infant daughter, and a nanny. Trump’s son Eric is listed as joining him on an August 1995 flight between Palm Beach and New York.

That’s still fewer than former President Bill Clinton, who flew on Epstein’s jets on at least nine different dates according to the flight records released as evidence, and reportedly far more times than that. The extent of Clinton’s travel on Epstein flights was already reported, however.

www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2021/12/21/maxwell-case-shows-frequency-trump-clinton-flights-epstein-jets/8980818002/

What's True
A woman using the pseudonym "Katie Johnson" has twice filed a civil lawsuit against Trump and billionaire Jeffrey Epstein accusing them of having sexually abused her when she was 13 years old, but those lawsuits were dismissed or withdrawn.

It's assumed she was paid off & the obligatory non-disclosure papers signed 

Two of the allegations (by Ivana Trump and Jill Harth) became public before Trump's candidacy for president, but the rest arose after a 2005 audio recording was leaked during the 2016 presidential campaign. Trump was recorded bragging that a celebrity like himself "can do anything" to women, including "just start kissing them ... I don't even wait" and "grab 'em by the pussy". Trump subsequently characterized those comments as "locker room talk" and denied actually behaving that way toward women, and he also apologized for the crude language. Many of his accusers stated that Trump's denials provoked them into going public with their allegations.

That is the pattern.
That he just starts kissing them 

What, some 50 women?

Former President Donald Trump took at least seven trips on Jeffrey Epstein’s “Lolita Express” private plane — far more than was previously known, according to newly released flight logs

Trump & Clinton are both men of their era who believed they could have any woman they wanted as perks of their fame, power, or money.

[abbey1227]

Aug 22, 2022 16:16:24 GMT merh said:

What's True
A woman using the pseudonym "Katie Johnson" has twice filed a civil lawsuit against Trump and billionaire Jeffrey Epstein accusing them of having sexually abused her when she was 13 years old, but those lawsuits were dismissed or withdrawn.

It's assumed she was paid off & the obligatory non-disclosure papers signed 

Two of the allegations (by Ivana Trump and Jill Harth) became public before Trump's candidacy for president, but the rest arose after a 2005 audio recording was leaked during the 2016 presidential campaign. Trump was recorded bragging that a celebrity like himself "can do anything" to women, including "just start kissing them ... I don't even wait" and "grab 'em by the pussy". Trump subsequently characterized those comments as "locker room talk" and denied actually behaving that way toward women, and he also apologized for the crude language. Many of his accusers stated that Trump's denials provoked them into going public with their allegations.

That is the pattern.
That he just starts kissing them 

What, some 50 women?

Former President Donald Trump took at least seven trips on Jeffrey Epstein’s “Lolita Express” private plane — far more than was previously known, according to newly released flight logs

Trump & Clinton are both men of their era who believed they could have any woman they wanted as perks of their fame, power, or money.

So Katie Johnson honored her NDA more adultlike than Stormy Daniels? Interesting assumption. Of course it has to be true if it's Trump......as opposed to Bill, right?

I see wealthy and powerful people pull stuff like that all the time. They've done it for the entirety of civilization.    It's one of the perks of fame and fortune......and tons of people seek out that same sort of attention from them.

Again, 50.....100     I realize it's tough for the average person to even fathom that kinda thing. But let them lvie the life of a rock star or other famous celeb for just a few months and they'll soon realize just how many possible opportunities they might be presented with over the course of a few decades. Fer chrissakes, Mick Jagger just had a kid with a 20-something

[abbey1227]

Aug 22, 2022 16:16:24 GMT merh said:

Trump & Clinton are both men of their era who believed they could have any woman they wanted as perks of their fame, power, or money.

Good thing that era no longer exists, huh? ..........right?